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  • kmay
    Don't forget me
    • Jan 2007
    • 6511

    #241
    Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

    hmm wow look at all the highest level players crying over how hard it is to get TP's.

    how else are you guys going to be challenged on this site? -_-

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    • OneHandNow
      Banned
      • Sep 2006
      • 5305

      #242
      Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

      Originally posted by kmay
      hmm wow look at all the highest level players crying over how hard it is to get TP's.

      how else are you guys going to be challenged on this site? -_-
      Tier4

      "FFR Pro"

      har har

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      • kmay
        Don't forget me
        • Jan 2007
        • 6511

        #243
        Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

        I'm no longer T4... but I'm not taking it down. Its nice memories from me "prime".

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        • devonin
          Very Grave Indeed
          Event Staff
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2004
          • 10120

          #244
          Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

          Anybody pointing to the total number of users as relevent to this discussion are hilarious.

          I have the 2251st rank GTS on the site, and that's over a whopping 5300 games. And I'm so far from even -having- a tier point, let alone being in a tier that I don't even count.

          For the purposes of discussions around serious ranking of serious players, you're looking at an ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM of 2000 users. Out of the full 1.7 million users.

          If you're looking at only 2000 people, absolutely no more than 100 should even -be- in a tier, IMO.

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #245
            Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

            Originally posted by jimerax
            Explain this. btw 1-7 pt reqs are almost the same with old tier reqs (3-9 pts).
            You're dropping the overall point requirement of the higher difficulty tiers by two full points - those who worked hard for the 9/9s and only BARELY got them will end up with 6/7, since some of the requirements are tighter, will get 5 or 6 out of 8 on those reqs, and do considerably worse on the new 9 point requirements. If this tier system is staying somewhat based off of a percentage, you're pretty much ripping Tier 0 out of some people's hands. Even right now, I'm down by 19 points from perfect...that's not very far into the top tier, considering that my ranks are pretty high across all but two songs (just a personal addition).

            Originally posted by devonin
            For the purposes of discussions around serious ranking of serious players, you're looking at an ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM of 2000 users. Out of the full 1.7 million users.

            If you're looking at only 2000 people, absolutely no more than 100 should even -be- in a tier, IMO.
            An arguable point, I suppose. However, there's no reason for people who can consistently AAA 9s and 10s (top third of the songs in terms of difficulty) to not have some sort of standing within the system, which is why the addition of a sixth tier is great. It's a huge step in the right direction. All I'm suggesting is tweaking some of the top requirements, because they're a bit too harsh.

            EDIT: ok, I'm sounding like Stavie with the personal add at the moment (no offense, bud) - what I'm trying to get at is, there are a ton of people who may deserve the top tier, but might not get it because of the excessively difficult 8/9 point requirements.
            Last edited by TC_Halogen; 12-26-2010, 10:02 PM.

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            • igotrhythm
              Fractals!
              • Sep 2004
              • 6535

              #246
              Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

              I understand why Molto is an 8-pointer, but making the 1/8 requirement 1.5m is nuts. I have 1.4m on that when I manage to get an 800 combo, which is somewhere after the long jack into the minijack-wall-runningman section, which is the hardest part of the file to hit. If you can get 900 combo on that, you're pretty much home free after hitting that marker.

              [/twocents]

              Edit: Uh, hi. Finally got the Lolo FC (51-20-0-41: Yay for intelligent mashing!), and noticed that on the page, the 1/5 requirement says "120 or higher." Pretty sure that should be "fewer" there, but that's just me. XD
              Last edited by igotrhythm; 01-1-2011, 03:53 PM.
              Originally posted by thesunfan
              I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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              • stavie33
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 1925

                #247
                Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                I still don't think anyone understood my idea -_-
                It's getting better all the time
                I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                • qqwref
                  stepmania archaeologist
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 4092

                  #248
                  Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                  Pretty sure everyone understood your idea (and nobody *agreed with it*).

                  Personally I'd like some easier reqs too, except in the highest tiers... I already know I'm not one of the 100 or whatever best players, but it'd be nice to have something more detailed than that... specifically something which wasn't highly dependent on mashing ability (which I don't think I have).
                  Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                  Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                  Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                  • One Winged Angel
                    Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 10837

                    #249
                    Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                    someone should quickly whip up rough tier reqs and toss them in the game anyways until the new tp system is up and good to go


                    Originally posted by ilikexd
                    i want to be cucked by cirno

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                    • TC_Halogen
                      Rhythm game specialist.
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 19376

                      #250
                      Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                      ok

                      RATO: 1/1 - Req: AAA

                      sorry, no tier points

                      EDIT: /ban Reincarnate

                      (Now, I win)

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                      • qqwref
                        stepmania archaeologist
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 4092

                        #251
                        Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                        Tier Points: 1 (1 + 0 for 711 AAAs) | Max Tier Points: 1

                        1/1 - Excite Bike - 100 or fewer


                        done (happy now, beginners? )
                        Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                        Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                        Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                        • One Winged Angel
                          Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 10837

                          #252
                          Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                          lmao I meant for T0, T1, T2, etc.

                          but hey, that works too~


                          Originally posted by ilikexd
                          i want to be cucked by cirno

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                          • duddychuck@yahoo.com
                            Retired
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1111

                            #253
                            Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                            Im all for tier points being an accomplishment to get and stuff but there should definitely be some easier songs. Not easy songs but not ones that are out of reach to the people who aren't pro and still play regularly.

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                            • Swigga
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 19

                              #254
                              Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                              Originally posted by [email protected]
                              Im all for tier points being an accomplishment to get and stuff but there should definitely be some easier songs. Not easy songs but not ones that are out of reach to the people who aren't pro and still play regularly.
                              THIS
                              I hate feeling like such a failure for not being to get any tier points. Some songs like nine or eight difficulty (What average players can FC) would be nice for some tier points. And the people that are able to get the tier points that are out right now would have no problem getting the easy ones so there'd be no problem there...

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                              • i love you
                                Live a wonderful life~
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 7313

                                #255
                                Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                                That was a mistake on our part and we realized what we had to do to fix it. Once we finish the new tier point system, a lot more people will be satisfied believe me. It won't be a completely full tier point system yet but it'll be the next step towards that.
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