Official Tier Point System Thread

[Vanilla Mnm]

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idk, i almost don't see the point in the tier system if you bring songs that are so low in difficulty into it.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

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The whole goal of Tier Points was to be a ranking system for the top active players, if we add easy requirements for lower skill players, it defeats the whole purpose of the system being about the top players. Like I said before, its annoying seeing the site come to the point where were are going to need to have two of everything because people feel left out, its stupid. Lower level players need to stop looking up to the pros and making them seem like they are wrong for being at their playing level, then beg for new shiz for them because they dont feel appreciated enough for their level of skill, its bull. We have already separated our scores thread with this attitude, why the hell do we need to split up everything else. This is the only thing "elite" players have, why is it so hard to accept them having this. This system has always been for the top players and should stay that way.

[krunkykai22]

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Why not? What's so different from RATO/DP/Electro Rush V2 to Power or Free Space or even Terror From Beyond???

They are songs that people play everyday .... they is NO difference


EDIT: Personally, WTF is the problem in getting newer and lower skill players involved in the damn game with things and achievements as well??? Why are you so anti new players Plan?? Not hatin on ya just wondering really

[One Winged Angel]

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I still think iironiic solved the problem, although this would require a shitload of work

Start with all 9s and maybe some of the harder 8s and lower 10s (e.g. max forever and mute city remix) Once someone achieves X points from that list, you're awarded the title of Tier 4, the harder 8s and easier 9s are automatically removed and all 10s and some of the easier FMOs are added to the list...then same thing, achieve Y points, receive title of Tier 3, all 9s and easier 10s removed, all FMOs and easier FGOs are added...Tier 2 and above, you get the songs on the current list

SO much work involved but holy hell that would be sick

[TC_Halogen]

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The whole goal of Tier Points was to be a ranking system for the top active players, if we add easy requirements for lower skill players, it defeats the whole purpose of the system being about the top players. Like I said before, its annoying seeing the site come to the point where were are going to need to have two of everything because people feel left out, its stupid. Lower level players need to stop looking up to the pros and making them seem like they are wrong for being at their playing level, then beg for new shiz for them because they dont feel appreciated enough for their level of skill, its bull. We have already separated our scores thread with this attitude, why the hell do we need to split up everything else. This is the only thing "elite" players have, why is it so hard to accept them having this. This system has always been for the top players and should stay that way.

it's amazing how elitist you act when you're not that good

See, I can be an elitist prick too.

I don't understand why it's so hard or stupid to accommodate for lower level players, you sit there and act like the elites have NOTHING when them getting on the high score boards constantly is more than enough to accommodate for their needs. Then you have skill tokens that newer users can only dream of. Stop acting like the top players are the only people that matter.

EDIT:

I still think iironiic solved the problem, although this would require a shitload of work

Start with all 9s and maybe some of the harder 8s and lower 10s (e.g. max forever and mute city remix) Once someone achieves X points from that list, you're awarded the title of Tier 4, the harder 8s and easier 9s are automatically removed and all 10s and some of the easier FMOs are added to the list...then same thing, achieve Y points, receive title of Tier 3, all 9s and easier 10s removed, all FMOs and easier FGOs are added...Tier 2 and above, you get the songs on the current list

SO much work involved but holy hell that would be sick

I agree with this, it's very close to a truly tiered system.

[krunkykai22]

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Aj said it best. Thank you.

[psychoangel691]

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The whole goal of Tier Points was to be a ranking system for the top active players, if we add easy requirements for lower skill players, it defeats the whole purpose of the system being about the top players. Like I said before, its annoying seeing the site come to the point where were are going to need to have two of everything because people feel left out, its stupid. Lower level players need to stop looking up to the pros and making them seem like they are wrong for being at their playing level, then beg for new shiz for them because they dont feel appreciated enough for their level of skill, its bull. We have already separated our scores thread with this attitude, why the hell do we need to split up everything else. This is the only thing "elite" players have, why is it so hard to accept them having this. This system has always been for the top players and should stay that way.

Where are you getting 2 of everything from? What a lot of us are saying is INCLUDE lower stuff in the tier system. And you're like ranking system of the high level players, that's why there would be different tiers. Like lets say tiers go from 10 to 0, 10 being the lowest. Top players would still have their tier 0 to show off with and other players can feel accomplished by moving up in tiers. I don't understand why that's a bad thing. Not everyone even with a ton of practice is going to AAA fgos and such some of us just can't do that. But why can't we have pride in what we have accomplished? It seems like you care about no one but the upper level players which is not right.

[rushyrulz]

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Plan, the FFR Scores thread was probably getting a good page every 2 minutes on a busy night. That split needed to happen and it's only brought forth good things. Elite players don't need encouragement for AAAing their 25th FGO. Average players do need encouragement so they don't get discouraged by the T0 player posting 3 FGOs when the best they can do is FC Be Princess.

Elite players [like you] can be jerks [like you are] to noobs [which hold the majority]. There NEEDS to be something for the AVERAGE player as well as the more skilled. It's absolutely retarded to have such a one-sided system.

[iironiic]

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The whole goal of Tier Points was to be a ranking system for the top active players, if we add easy requirements for lower skill players, it defeats the whole purpose of the system being about the top players. Like I said before, its annoying seeing the site come to the point where were are going to need to have two of everything because people feel left out, its stupid. Lower level players need to stop looking up to the pros and making them seem like they are wrong for being at their playing level, then beg for new shiz for them because they dont feel appreciated enough for their level of skill, its bull. We have already separated our scores thread with this attitude, why the hell do we need to split up everything else. This is the only thing "elite" players have, why is it so hard to accept them having this. This system has always been for the top players and should stay that way.

Well with my idea, I don't think songs like Power deserves to be in the tier ranking system. But maybe a few 9s or at the bare minimum, easy 10s. I understand that tier points were created for elite players, but how do other players know that they are elite enough? Earn a single TP? And no, we are not splitting up the tier points for them (I won't let this happen); we're simply expanding it so we could include these people.

EDIT:

I still think iironiic solved the problem, although this would require a shitload of work

Start with all 9s and maybe some of the harder 8s and lower 10s (e.g. max forever and mute city remix) Once someone achieves X points from that list, you're awarded the title of Tier 4, the harder 8s and easier 9s are automatically removed and all 10s and some of the easier FMOs are added to the list...then same thing, achieve Y points, receive title of Tier 3, all 9s and easier 10s removed, all FMOs and easier FGOs are added...Tier 2 and above, you get the songs on the current list

SO much work involved but holy hell that would be sick

Basically. You are also forgetting the fact that if for some reason someone can't AAA let's say Tambourin Chinois, but upgrade themselves to the FMO level, it's not removing all the songs. It's just expanding the list so that if you manage to improve the easy VC you will get your deserved tier points and that can help you upgrade yourself. Basically it's like unlocking Tier point requirements every time you upgrade a tier

[MrMagic5239]

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deleting my post too

[i love you]

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Alright people, i think we all get the picture now. This update was too strict and too based off the Elite players.

Start with all 9s and maybe some of the harder 8s and lower 10s (e.g. max forever and mute city remix) Once someone achieves X points from that list, you're awarded the title of Tier 4, the harder 8s and easier 9s are automatically removed and all 10s and some of the easier FMOs are added to the list...then same thing, achieve Y points, receive title of Tier 3, all 9s and easier 10s removed, all FMOs and easier FGOs are added...Tier 2 and above, you get the songs on the current list

I'm going with this plan now. I think starting at the 9's will be the best place to start. Going to have to talk to Jimerax about this.

[rushyrulz]

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[One Winged Angel]

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everything went better than expected~

[kmay]

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ok i agree with Corey. Who the hell was there when I was an average player? when any of you were? No one was. Even in the last official where everyone was saying how I am going to win D3, no one encouraged me or complimented my scores. I got to where I am now buy playing, not posting scores. Sure a little, nice job, feels good from time to time, but when is it not?

The spilt in the scores thread did not need to happen, low level songs in the tiers does not need to happen. Everyone needs to get it in their little heads that earning a Tier Point is not supposed to be something easy. No level 9's needs to touch this list.

No drama needs to be stirred up about this. Nothing on the list needs drastic changes. Grow a pair of balls and post your scores in the FFR scores thread and if someone says something about your score consider yourself lucky. I haven't gotten a single score noticed in god knows how long, doesn't mean no one saw it. Krunky posted a 'good job' post on my way about my 10-5-0-16 or whatever it was i got on pants, but of course someone supped my score like 3 posts later. My panties weren't in a bunch about it.


Tier posts are staying elitist because they are an elitist quality. stop with all this(including lower leveled players)

[krunkykai22]

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everything went better than expected~

u sure? lol