Drugs

[Syhto]

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more for you to think critically about

Religion and culture as it pertains to drug use

[kommisar]

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experience and dosage will forever vary from one person to another and the only reason some are legal and others aren't is purely belief and what society has been shaped around.


let's say I did marijuana, I would become epileptic (thanks marijuana now i'm halfway there!) and or bipolar due to the already great amount of THC present in my feeble little mind.

next guy smokes 1gram per day and feels little to no side effects.


it's such a subjective debate when it comes to effect and if they should be morally accepted in society that there's really no happy medium. the only way it could ever really be interated in our daily lives is if enough people were to pass a bill allowing its use and restricting 894305803945 things so that it can be taxed to shit like alcohol. but that is unlikely to happen any time soon (but who knowz)

[korny]

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let's say I did marijuana, I would become epileptic (thanks marijuana now i'm halfway there!) and or bipolar due to the already great amount of THC present in my feeble little mind.

next guy smokes 1gram per day and feels little to no side effects.

You've completely lost me with this analogy. Maybe it's because you've used pot as the example i'm not sure. Care to elaborate a bit more as to what you're trying to say here?

[kommisar]

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the effects can vary from one person to another and it's impossible to base one concrete statistic to base any example just like alcohol. I used pot as an example for personal experience; because if I smoked pot, I would become epileptic. Having said that, pretty sure nearly anyone could do the same and not have the same side effect, is what I was saying.

[korny]

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Um, can you please provide evidence supporting that use of marijuana can cause epilepsy when it's known to actually benefit those who have it?

[kommisar]

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I'm living proof of it. Though it doesn't cause it, it triggers it. Kinda like people prone to psychosis or being bipolar. Dangerously high levels of THC can provoke such, but in a very low percentage of people who are already in danger of developing such disorders.


but as I said, it varies from one person to another so I might just be a rare case. I've also heard it helps epilepsy and I just happen to have shit luck.

[korny]

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The thing is, is that your anecdotal evidence completely goes against what is known to be the truth about what marijuana does for those who either have epilepsy, or are more prone to getting a seizure. Marijuana actually sooths and controls seizures by dulling the eletrical activity in between the brain-between the axon and synapse-by the method of thc. Thc itself is anti-conductive of eletricity because it is a waxy like substance so I find your statement a little hard to believe considering that seizures are caused by excessive neuronal activity within the brain.

[kommisar]

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Which was the very reason for my initial use of it. However being born with epilepsy certain things will trigger episodes. For some reason from every single time I've used marijuana seizure ensued and the doctor's best explanation was that my brain was being too "stimulated" or that it created a counter-effect as to its original purpose.


Though I'm sure I could go back to him and give him the whole dopehead description of what dope actually does, but I honestly have no explanation myself.


Regardless, the point I was trying to make is that drugs create such variable experiences that no concrete data will ever tell you what the effects will be on your personally.

[korny]

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If your anecdotal evidence wasn't so one in a billion I would take what you're saying a bit more seriously. Likewise, I can't legitimately call you a liar because I don't know what happened to you specifically, but were you able to provide something that added credibility to your statement I would be more willing to accept it. If the US government were able to find any link to marijuana and epilepsy they would be touting it all over the news because there is put simply, nothing to suggest that marijuana causes epilepsy, bi polar or any other disorder. You're talking about at least 100 million people in the US and canada alone that use it everyday. That's a lot of people who have yet to provide an example like yours.

[Flaming_Dingleberry]

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Marijuana is a depressant.

Then I have bad luck.

Alright then.

[kommisar]

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I've read/seen plenty of reports on THC causing plenty of disorders, but I guess you'll probably bring up a reason why whatever article I bring up is bullshit or something.


The only credibility I have for my own condition is myself. I don't expect you to believe me, but I can certainly assure you that there is a possibility of other cases like mine happening, as unlikely as they may be.

[korny]

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If I EVER said marijuana is a depressant then shame shame on me. Marijuana is nothing of the sort and what are you even trying to say... Refrain from giving input if it is devoid of relevancy towards the the topic off hand.

[korny]

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I've read/seen plenty of reports on THC causing plenty of disorders, but I guess you'll probably bring up a reason why whatever article I bring up is bullshit or something.

I will restate, that if there were any LEGITIMATE reports that thc was the cause of a disorder, then the government would be using it as one of their strongest arguing points against it's legalization. The hypocrisy surrounding marijuanas illegality is astounding. I'm "the bongmaster" so of course my statements are going to come off as biased, but the blatant reality of it all is, is that there's just nothing period to suggest that marijuana is the cause for any disorder known to man say for those who have a genetic predisposition for schizophrenia. Every study had to prove that even has shown to be completely inconclusive and until I hear otherwise I will stand by science and reality.

[Flaming_Dingleberry]

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If I EVER said marijuana is a depressant then shame shame on me. Marijuana is nothing of the sort and what are you even trying to say... Refrain from giving input if it is devoid of relevancy towards the the topic off hand.

I tried to sum up both sides, I should've quoted you saying "Marijuana doesn't trigger seizures." The point is that kommisar probably isn't making something up, he's probably just unlucky, because I doubt it was a one in a billion occurrence. My psychology class last semester told me marijuana is a depressant, oops.

[korny]

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Not one and a billion occurrence, but example. That is a huge difference as it goes to say that it can happen any time he uses marijuana heavily enough as opposed to a single happenstance. Completely contradictory to how thc works in the brain.