Drugs

[Reincarnate]

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itt stupidity

[aperson]

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i*t stupidity

[Syhto]

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http://www.wildwoodhealth.com/index....juana-be-legal

wat

[korny]

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wat

"Marijuana interferes with normal brain waves; it also depresses the electrical activity of the frontal cortex--the very seat of character and moral power. This has been shown and measured not only electronically but also by new brain-scanning methods"

Something a bit more comprehensive

http://www.phillynorml.org/documents/legis_files/Scientific%20American%20-%20The%20Brains%20Own%20Marijuana.pdf

I believe the term were looking for is "retrograde transmission"

[ffraxis]

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can we move on to other drugs please.

its nice and all that people discuss marijuana but seriously its not the only drug out there, and you know what, if you don't you know much about other drugs that's fine, but still this whole discussion on drugs does not just revolve around cannabis.

seems to me like many people lack some background information on other drugs than cannabis, for some reason the majority of people pertain to either cannabis or alcohol since they are both readily studied, but still

Also since we hopefully will try and change the subject from marijuana to other drugs, life experiences are good information as well, the science should be left to people who have studied it and can form more supportive conclusions (if you happen to be an expert, enlighten us please).

[fido123]

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Sounds like it was your fault to me. Mental preparedness is a key factor when choosing to use drugs. Not trying to call you out on it, only suggesting that perhaps it wasn't a good idea to use anything heavily or continuously if you were unstable. But that's just what happens, when people get caught in a rut. Still, the drug isn't really at fault.

I completely agree with you, however it doesn't change the fact that marijuana isn't always a good thing for your mental health. it also has positive effects on mental health though because at least in my case it allows me to view life without any "filters" or biases I have, allowing me to look at my life, and everything else in my life for what it really is, which is why I might have been depressed when I first started doing it when I was 16 cause I had a lot going on in my life that was kinda ****ed up but I didn't really even give much thought about it.

Anyways it's just all personal experience, I know people who don't even like the feeling of being high on weed and I can't even relate to that lol.


Also I know this is slightly off-topic but can anybody give me their opinion shrooms/salivia? I'm kinda curious about them, although I do have a fairly addictive personality, and it will make me more likely to do other drugs but from my research, shrooms at least seem really harmless, and not addictive as I've read you can really only get the effects from them on a monthly basis due to tolerance.

[Syhto]

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You can do mushrooms once a week. (not advised tho) They're pretty safe. 2.5g+ is a normal dose. They can cause nausea. I find the trip to be somewhat dark, but overall; emotional, intense, interesting. It can really bring you down if you aren't careful. Everyone has different experiences. Sometimes, they're very visual, other times, very introspective. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to become addicted to mushrooms. Trip is like, 6 hrs. Starts dropping off after 3 or so. Personally, not a big fan.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml

Salvia is pretty safe as well. The 'trip' is intense and dramatic, but fleeting. You have to smoke/ingest it properly to get the effect. There are different extracts, but it all comes from a leafy plant. Lasts a few minutes. Personally, I really like it.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_faq.shtml

[Vendetta21]

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This topic is dumb from the start because there are so many psychoactive pharmaceuticals and naturally occurring chemicals out there that have such a varying degree of effects and legality that you really can't have a meaningful discussion with a term as broad as "drugs."

For instance, BK-MDMA is currently legal to posses in the United States and is an analog of MDMA, which is illegal, while having much of the same effects. The legality of the drug is due to the fact that it is patented as an anti-depressant and is harder to synthesize compared to MDMA making it somewhat unknown and scarce.

There are a variety of other legal drugs out there that have such a wide range of effects (Oxy, Vicodin, Adderall, Alcohol) and illegal drugs that have less dangerous effects (THC, Psilocybin.)

When thinking about recreational drug use we cannot ignore the fact that brain chemistry has an overwhelming relevance in our enjoyment of life (Xanax, Vitamin D deficiency, SSRIs) and so it's better to look at recreational drugs on a case-by-case basis. You really can't paint such a broad brush here.

[ffraxis]

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This topic is dumb from the start because there are so many psychoactive pharmaceuticals and naturally occurring chemicals out there that have such a varying degree of effects and legality that you really can't have a meaningful discussion with a term as broad as "drugs."

For instance, BK-MDMA is currently legal to posses in the United States and is an analog of MDMA, which is illegal, while having much of the same effects. The legality of the drug is due to the fact that it is patented as an anti-depressant and is harder to synthesize compared to MDMA making it somewhat unknown and scarce.

There are a variety of other legal drugs out there that have such a wide range of effects (Oxy, Vicodin, Adderall, Alcohol) and illegal drugs that have less dangerous effects (THC, Psilocybin.)

When thinking about recreational drug use we cannot ignore the fact that brain chemistry has an overwhelming relevance in our enjoyment of life (Xanax, Vitamin D deficiency, SSRIs) and so it's better to look at recreational drugs on a case-by-case basis. You really can't paint such a broad brush here.

that's because this topic is supposed to be broad, we are not just talking about one group of drugs.

its a general discussion open for anyone.

[Vendetta21]

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that's because this topic is supposed to be broad, we are not just talking about one group of drugs.

its a general discussion open for anyone.

oh okay then drugs can range from: banal and trite, absolutely crucial, good, bad, dangerous, and deadly.

dude today i ingested me some really good ****ing salmon and totally upped my vitamin D levels dude, can't wait for that shit to kick in.

[TehWhack]

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For someone who is currently writing personal/general documentation pertaining to ergolines, Cannabis, and Salvia Divinorum; this thread makes me sad. Then again, I always expect drug threads on casual forums to be like this. Luckily, this is much better than the majority I've seen.

I do agree with Vendetta's mentality though. I realize that we're talking about mind altering substances, but it's too broad for Critical Thinking. Same kind of broad aspect if a topic were to be called something like "European Countries". Oh well, I suppose I expect too much.

My contribution to the thread: The Union

^ Watch this movie ^

P.S. - For the sake of accuracy (and personal pet peeves), I hope people can refer to "acid" for talk on current blotter/experience and "LSD" for the historical aspect of it (wink wink Aperson).

[aperson]

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P.S. - For the sake of accuracy (and personal pet peeves), I hope people can refer to "acid" for talk on current blotter/experience and "LSD" for the historical aspect of it (wink wink Aperson).

Why? Because sometimes your blotter paper is full of DOB? When you drop a hit of acid you're taking LSD-25, plus a few random impurities, so I really don't get why the arbitrary distinction is necessary.

[blade_anime]

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I will say this, I am VERY strongly against illegal drugs, but I would like to mention that although I do not condone recreational use of pot, I do think that it should be legal for it to be used for medicinal purposes. I also believe that it should be taken in forms other than smoking it. Also, I find it interesting that people say it's fine to use it recreationally but they don't mention recreational use of prescription medication. It always pisses me off when people mention how harmful some of the contents of prescription medications are. Yes, they are harmful, which is why you need to have a prescription from your doctor to use it. People die by misusing prescription drugs.

[Vendetta21]

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Yes, they are harmful, which is why you need to have a prescription from your doctor to use it. People die by misusing prescription drugs.

You don't believe that people can educate themselves enough to understand the effects of the drug they are using and use it in such a way that is responsible? You don't believe there exists a type of person capable of this?

People with ADHD take Adderall daily to cure a behavioral problem that is only really seen as a problem in modern Western society, and is likely induced by aspects of modern Western society. If either of these sentiments are even remotely true then I wonder if by your morality it is okay for someone to take this drug in the fashion that they do. Is it?

Is it wrong for someone who researches and understands the effects of adderall to take it without a prescription for a purpose that it will help them accomplish? (I.E. studying.) Studying is also a problem that only exists in modern society and they are also using the drug to help alleviate the difficulty of this modern problem.

The only real deciding factor here is possible conditions that the drug could trigger. If we assume that they have gone to the doctor and their health is in the right place in order to not get any adverse effects from the drug, is it then wrong for them to take the drug without a prescription?

Is a Doctor's note the thing that defines morality with drugs? What about incompetent doctors? What about crooked doctors?

[Emo_Saur_]

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People die by misusing prescription drugs.

No one dies by a direct cause of Marijuana, does that mean we all need a doctor's prescription for using it?

The Union

The good thing about this movie is that it shows both sides of the story somewhat. It shows some of the negatives for the legalization of Marijuana, but many up-sides. By far, the up-sides outnumber the negatives by a long shot though.