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  • ffraxis
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2006
    • 114

    #1

    Drugs

    Whats your opinion on drugs? All of us have done drugs at least once in our life (even if we didn't know that said substance is considered a drug) legal or illegal.

    Do you support specific drugs? Why do you support these drugs? What are the pros/cons to this drug? Do you support drug groups, anti-drug groups? Do you support the business behind it or no?

    Please, do tell.

    Also in trying to support your point of view please pull some actual facts.
  • rushyrulz
    Digital Dancing!
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 12985

    #2
    Re: Drugs

    Since illegal drugs kill people, I can't help but saying illegal drugs are bad.

    PS No way you're going to have a very stimulating conversation on legal drugs, and there's no reason to argue against them since the worst thing that can happen while taking them is some stupid side effect.

    Trying cocaine once can kill you, taking an aspirin can save your life.

    so in summary: Good drugs good, bad drugs bad.


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    • User1176756

      #3
      Re: Drugs

      ^
      Enough said. There's no such thing as an opinion on drugs.

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      • VarleyisDance
        Sassy
        • Oct 2005
        • 438

        #4
        Re: Drugs

        Marijuana should be legal just the same as alcohol and cigarettes, the effects arent near as harmful as other illegal drugs


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        • XXXsmittyXXX
          Anxiety monster
          • Jul 2005
          • 6924

          #5
          Re: Drugs

          How is there no such thing as an opinion on drugs? What if you happen to LIKE drugs, good or bad,? Pretty sure liking them is an opinion.

          I support earthly drugs to a very high extent. 8)
          If it grows on the ground, or in the ground, i say go for it. Definitely weed. All that man made garbage is horrible for you.

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          • rushyrulz
            Digital Dancing!
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            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 12985

            #6
            Re: Drugs

            Marijuana is a legal drug in some states and countries. It would probably help the cause if it weren't a bunch of stoners shouting LEGALIZE MARIJUANA MANNN! Which probably leads the people whose decision it is to make it legal kind of weary that if it's legalized, all that will happen is there will be more people driving stoned and killing innocent people. But keep in mind, alcohol WAS illegal before, and has since been legalized (obviously)

            I've never tried marijuana, although I'm sure it's not too harmful to your health. It's probably the best option out of the non-chem drugs. Stay away from the shrooms and chem and you'll be fine.

            Also, don't chug cough syrup.

            EDIT: Yeah, what smitty said. I still think shrooms are iffy tho.


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            • VarleyisDance
              Sassy
              • Oct 2005
              • 438

              #7
              Re: Drugs

              Originally posted by XXXsmittyXXX
              If it grows on the ground, or in the ground, i say go for it.

              i like that


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              • who_cares973
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 15407

                #8
                Re: Drugs

                Originally posted by rushyrulz
                Since illegal drugs kill people, I can't help but saying illegal drugs are bad.

                PS No way you're going to have a very stimulating conversation on legal drugs, and there's no reason to argue against them since the worst thing that can happen while taking them is some stupid side effect.

                Trying cocaine once can kill you, taking an aspirin can save your life.

                so in summary: Good drugs good, bad drugs bad.
                I can't tell if you're being serious with that post or not. Death is a very serious side effect like with any drug legal or not that's what overdosing does.
                Originally posted by badman7772
                ^
                Enough said. There's no such thing as an opinion on drugs.
                I really hope you're kidding

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                • Kilroy_x
                  Little Chief Hare
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 783

                  #9
                  Re: Drugs

                  I've come to the conclusion recently that I like Marijuana quite a bit, and it's legal in my state with a prescription. Alcohol to an extent but not so much, plus it's a contraindication to HRT; it could kill me, technically, as could cigarettes. Kind of funny in that context that illegal drugs are healthier for me than the legal ones. I'd like to try MDMA at some future date, but I wouldn't dare make a habit of it. Addiction to a neurotoxic substance doesn't seem like my cup of tea, but now that I know the kinds of experiences drugs can give to me I'm more interested in them to say the least.

                  I would say that if a person is cautious and intelligent, they can explore most drugs to an extent. Marijuana doesn't seem to be bad at all. Heroin can be pretty bad, cocaine can be pretty bad, and meth is something that nobody should touch ever, but as for most other stuff? Pot is fine, worst consequence of shrooms is a fever, LSD if you can actually find it and have a good environment to take it in is fine, MDMA if you don't overdo it is fine (although terrible if you do). Biggest problem with drugs isn't the drugs themselves but impurities, but again, that's just a matter of caution.

                  I'm still very much a libertarian at heart, or perhaps an anarchist of some stripe; certainly not the conventional stripe though. I have too much respect for capitalism but not enough to qualify for the anarcho-capitalist side of things anymore, I don't think. Even stupid people have their rights, whatever the hell a "right" is, and I would say that extends to drug use. Keeping drugs illegal drives their prices up by creating artificial scarcity and also ensures that the people who profit from them are those with the means to evade, bribe, and in the very visible cases of Central and South America, kill law enforcement officials in order to traffic their product.

                  Don't get me wrong, I know people who have screwed up their lives in a serious way with drug use. But in the end, you'll never stop people from making bad decisions, and in this particular case trying to leads to greater death and suffering. It's counter-intuitive but true.

                  tl;dr drugs themselves are largely fine, those that traffic in them aren't, and as a corollary of that government regulations are far from fine because they're what drive drugs underground into the black market and turn a popular product into a source of revenue for terrorists, gangs, and criminals.

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                  • ScylaX
                    urararararararara
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1044

                    #10
                    Re: Drugs

                    Lol what the ****.
                    Good drugs = good / Bad drugs = Bad ? Just were did you brought that from ? That's some frightening conclusion right there.

                    If cigarette was innoxious, it wouldn't kill that much people every year. Same thing for alcohol. Just compare marijuana (illegal) to tabacco (legal) with a serious method and you'll realize the first one is almost inoffensive compared to the second one.

                    @Kilroy_x Well, repression obligatory has its side effects and consequences that are basically symetrics from its nature and "pressure" over the population. It's kinda hard to find a fair media considering its consequences, even though you can judge by yourself, looking at its consequences, if that repression is good or bad for the nation. (compare the Prohibition from our today's laws over drugs if you want)
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                    • kommisar
                      Dark Chancellor
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 7324

                      #11
                      Re: Drugs

                      anything in excessive amount is dumb as fuc, but some more harmful than others. really hard to base an opinion on that since some people will relate to overdosing or just taking something once.

                      I personally hate recreational use of drugs since I've seen its psychological effect on some people close to me. It's a pretty artificial way of enjoying yourself (I even hate myself for drinking at times). They shouldn't be illegal, since it's causing more problems than it's preventing. They are, however, mostly associated with people insecure/unhappy about their own lives. It's a coward's way out of reality.


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                      • ScylaX
                        urararararararara
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1044

                        #12
                        Re: Drugs

                        @Kommi I have a strong opinion about drugs and I hate it too, but I wanted to ask you a question : Do you think you'd still consider drugs as an "artificial way of enjoying yourself" if it hadn't any bad consequence on the human being ?
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                        • zadkiel91
                          IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZOR!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 273

                          #13
                          Re: Drugs

                          Originally posted by XXXsmittyXXX
                          How is there no such thing as an opinion on drugs? What if you happen to LIKE drugs, good or bad,? Pretty sure liking them is an opinion.

                          I support earthly drugs to a very high extent. 8)
                          If it grows on the ground, or in the ground, i say go for it. Definitely weed. All that man made garbage is horrible for you.
                          I agree with this. Weed is the only illegal drug that you can try without being addicted, and it was proven that it doesn't burn your neurons. That is BS. Try cocaine, or heroin or other man made garbage like smitty said and your life will go down the drain.
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                          • ScylaX
                            urararararararara
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 1044

                            #14
                            Re: Drugs

                            It's kinda out of subject, but I don't see the point of living if it's about escaping from your perceptions that allows you to feel the world, just concentrate on how to be positive and the time will help you. Unless there is actually no way from escaping to your conditions.
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                            • aperson
                              FFR Hall of Fame
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3431

                              #15
                              Re: Drugs

                              Originally posted by rushyrulz
                              Trying cocaine once can kill you, taking an aspirin can save your life.
                              The difference between a medicine and a poison is dosage. Also, cocaine is used medicinally to numb the mouth when needed for surgery. That is why it is schedule II in the United States and not schedule I.

                              Originally posted by rushyrulz
                              I've never tried marijuana, although I'm sure it's not too harmful to your health. It's probably the best option out of the non-chem drugs. Stay away from the shrooms and chem and you'll be fine.
                              What on Earth does 'non-chem' drugs mean? Everything in this world that is composed of atoms is a chemical. Everything you eat is a chemical. Vitamin C? Calcium? Sodium? You're a machine made of a bunch of chemicals so let's not act like putting a chemical in you is a bad idea for the sake of it being a chemical.

                              Originally posted by ScylaX
                              It's kinda out of subject, but I don't see the point of living if it's about escaping from your perceptions that allows you to feel the world, just concentrate on how to be positive and the time will help you. Unless there is actually no way from escaping to your conditions.
                              You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the only reason people take drugs is to "artificially enjoy themselves." I've taken a wide variety of drugs and my primary purpose in doing them was to understand myself better. I find that you learn more about what you are actually composed of, both physically and mentally, by jarring the flow of things and seeing how your body copes with it. There are many others who share the same view, try googling the term 'Entheogen.'

                              Originally posted by zadkiel91
                              I agree with this. Weed is the only illegal drug that you can try without being addicted, and it was proven that it doesn't burn your neurons. That is BS. Try cocaine, or heroin or other man made garbage like smitty said and your life will go down the drain.
                              Some people can go shopping without getting addicted; some people are addicted to shopping and are in financial ruin. Some people smoke weed every once in awhile and go about their lives normally; some people spend all their time smoking weed and lose any motivation or direction in life. Some people try heroin once and their lives go into a downard spiral; some people try heroin a few times and decide it isn't for them.

                              Don't make blanket statements unless you know exactly what your blanket is covering.
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