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  • Patashu
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2006
    • 8609

    #16306
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    HEY

    got permission for Syrsa.

    Sv: Re: Sv: requesting permission to use your music for www.flashflashrevolution.com
    yes, but whatever song it is, I allow you to use.
    Sent to: patashu

    Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
    http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
    Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
    http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #16307
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      I've gone through and tabulated how many points each file has gotten for whatever group they were sitting in, based on how many points they have. Files are in order from point values.

      Based off of this:

      Originally posted by jimerax

      BTW I was thinking of 13 points or more as borderline but that's a bit harsh.
      So, new idea is like these, this time.

      [Accept]
      + + + (15)
      + + +. (14)
      + +. +. (13)
      + + +? (13)
      + + ? (12)
      + +. +? (12)
      +. +. +. (12)
      + + - (11)


      [Borderline]
      + +. ? (11)
      +. +. +? (11)
      + +? +? (11)
      + +. - (10)


      [Reject]
      +. +. ? (10)
      +. +? +? (10)
      Group 1
      Judges:
      Korygon, Patashu, psychoangel691

      Chopin - Valse Op.69 No.2: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Cette Annee: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Csikos Post - [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Chase You Down: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Bit Blue: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Arrrrr: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Loituma: [+], [+], [+.] (14)
      C7 Funk: [+], [+], [+.] (14)
      Badinerie: [+.], [+], [+] (14)
      Blame it on Bad Luck: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Chopin - OP.10 No.9: [+.], [+], [+.] (13)
      Bury the Hatchet: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Clockwork - [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      All of Yours (Heavy): [+.], [+], [+?] (12)
      Banjo Kazooie Theme: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)
      11ELEVEN: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)
      Above: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)

      Black and White: [+.], [?], [+.] (10)
      Action Winter Journey: [+.], [?], [+?] (9)
      Dead Hooker Smoothie - [+?], [?], [?] (7)
      Adcar: [?], [?], [?] (6)
      Death Match - [?], [?], [-] (5)
      Lazy Summer Days: [-], [-], [-] (3)
      Battlefield: [-], [-], [-] (3)
      Death Moon - [-], [-], [-] (3)
      Darkshark AAA'd this - [--], [--], [--] (0)


      Group 2
      Judges:
      jimerax, TC_Halogen, Silvuh

      ***Directly Perfectly: [<], [<], [<]

      Floating Through Time: [+], [+], [+?] (13)
      Greensleeves: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Grocery Escape Plan: [+.], [+?], [+] (12)

      Directly Perfectly [Short Edit]: [+.], [+.], [+?] (11)
      Extreme Dishwasher Race: [+?], [+.], [+.] (11)
      Dreamin' In The 80's [+.], [+.], [+?] (11)
      Eating Crow: [+?], [+?], [+] (11)

      Death Traveller: [+.], [+.], [?] (10)
      Disco 80's: [+.], [+.], [?] (10)
      Experiment: [+?], [+], [?] (10)
      Lunar Dial: [+?], [+?], [+?] (9)
      ESC - Amplified T Squared Mix: [+?], [+?], [?] (8)
      Hate: [+?], [?], [+?] (8)
      Holy War: [?], [?], [+?] (7)
      Gene Gadget Zone: [-], [+.], [?] (7)
      For FFR v2: [?], [?], [?] (6)
      Happy Guy Falls Off A Not So Happy Mountain: [?], [?], [?] (6)
      Fruhlingsrauschen: [?], [-], [?] (5)
      Dumpstream: [+?], [-], [-] (5)
      Honey Cookie: [+?], [-], [-] (5)
      Dizzay: [?], [-], [-] (4)
      deco stop: [?], [-], [-] (4)
      Epileptic Crisis: [-], [?], [-] (4)
      Field of Snow v2: [-], [-], [-] (3)
      Hand Throw: [-], [-], [-] (3)


      Group 3
      Judges:
      Gundam-Dude, who_cares973, Vote4Nixon

      ***{Lazy Summer Days}: [...], [-], [...]
      ***Loituma: [+.], [+.], [...]
      ***Field of Snow: [?], [?], [...]

      Down: [+], [+], [+.] (14)
      It's Only Natural: [+.], [+.], [+] (13)
      Jamais Deux: [+.], [+.], [+] (13)
      Over the Ocean: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Overdrive: [+], [+], [?] (12)
      Pathos: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)
      Little Star: [+?], [+], [+.] (12)

      Metropolis: [+.], [+.], [?] (10)
      Kirby 64: [+.], [?], [+.] (10)
      Northern Lights: [+?], [+.], [+?] (10)
      Honki Sentai Majirenaa: [+?], [+.], [+?] (10)
      Opening (SSBM): [+?], [+.], [?] (9)
      Monday: [-], [+.], [+?] (8)
      NaiNai69: [+.], [-], [+?] (8)
      Infectious: [+?], [?], [+?] (8)
      Naruto Theme - Sea. 4: [?], [+.], [?] (8)
      Perfect Insanity: [?], [?], [+.] (8)
      Lightning Strikes Again: [?], [?], [+?] (7)
      Luigi's Mansion: [+?], [?], [?] (7)
      Over the Rave F.O.R. Remix: [+?], [?], [?] (7)
      naTivEfAcE: [-], [?], [+?] (6)
      It's Raining Lolis!!: [+?], [-], [?] (6)
      Islamey: [?], [?], [-] (5)
      It's a Zombie's World: [-], [?], [-] (4)
      Oh lord, your wife just got run over by an ice cream truck: [-], [?], [-] (4)
      In A Trance Redux: [-], [-], [-] (3)


      Group 4
      Judges: kommisar, i love you, bmah

      **Saikyou OX Keikaku: [-], [<], [<] (?)

      The Fusion: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      Yellow Lasers: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      RAN: [+], [+], [+] (15)
      No Running Water: [+], [+], [+.] (14)
      Prokofiev: [+.], [+], [+] (14)
      Sparkle Downer: [+], [+], [+.] (14)
      Song of the Second Moon: [+?], [+], [+] (13)
      Sakura Blue Sky: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Smash Podcast: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Voodoo People: [+], [+.], [+.] (13)
      Run Kirby Run: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)
      Pure Ruby: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)
      Try to Star: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)
      White Walls: [+.], [+.], [+.] (12)

      Rondo a Capriccio: [+.], [+.], [+?] (11)
      Wolf by Night, Human in Dreams: [+.], [-], [+.] (9)
      Mathematics: [+?], [+?], [+?] (9)
      This Could've Been Nice: [+?], [+.], [?] (9)
      Radiant Moonlight: [-], [-], [+?] (5)
      Take up the Cross: [-], [-], [+?] (5)
      Pokemon: [-], [-], [?] (4)
      Shooogun: [-], [-], [?] (4)
      Yellowknife: [-], [-], [?] (4)
      Perseverence: [-], [-], [-] (3)


      Are there going to be any changes to the point values?

      edit: if no change; then 41 queued O_O, also lmfao at group 2's acceptance ratio
      Last edited by TC_Halogen; 11-18-2010, 03:08 PM.

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      • woker-X
        .... :.. .:. ::
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2007
        • 1040

        #16308
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Patashu
        HEY

        got permission for Syrsa.

        Sv: Re: Sv: requesting permission to use your music for www.flashflashrevolution.com
        yes, but whatever song it is, I allow you to use.
        Sent to: patashu

        http://www.youtube.com/user/SYRSAmusic#p/u
        u.u

        I think you didn't see this haha

        http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ostcount=16274


        edit:

        I have the fixes for Greensleeves (Silvu's notes), do I send just the sm?? (or dwi)
        Last edited by woker-X; 11-18-2010, 03:01 PM.

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        • i love you
          Live a wonderful life~
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2006
          • 7313

          #16309
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          lmfao at group 2 xd
          ===============================
          The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~
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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #16310
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            swear to god, it looks like JX, Silvuh and I could not agree very often - one of us would have a rating that stands out from the other two, it's hilarious.

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            • who_cares973
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 15407

              #16311
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              now we just need songs that arent ripped from youtube and we'll be golden

              gunna fix up my files and send in fixes

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              • Patashu
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Apr 2006
                • 8609

                #16312
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by woker-X
                u.u

                I think you didn't see this haha

                http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ostcount=16274
                haha nope
                Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                • AsphyxZero
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1823

                  #16313
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  Since I have a bit of time tonight, I'm going to fix up My Half and send it, if the batch is still open.

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                  • bmah
                    shots FIRED
                    Profile Moderator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    Global Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 8448

                    #16314
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    Wow, those ratios are messed up. For big disagreements, I thought we already applied a measure to mitigate something like that - how effective WAS that measure when you see the end results of file acceptances? Haha, in any case, we need to sort crap like this out. The ratios scream out that something isn't quite right.
                    Last edited by bmah; 11-18-2010, 04:28 PM.

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                    • Patashu
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8609

                      #16315
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      What if that quarter of the batch is just that much worse?
                      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                      http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #16316
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        I won't lie - our batch did have some weaker files. The batch that Kayla had seemed noticeably stronger in terms file quality - I was glancing over while working on One Winged Angel a while ago.

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                        • Bluearrowll
                          ⊙▃⊙
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 7376

                          #16317
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          This page should probably be posted somewhere on the judge page and maybe this page as well.

                          http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ostcount=16338
                          1st in Kommisar's 2009 SM Tournament
                          1st in I Love You`s 2009 New Year`s Tournament
                          3rd in EnR's Mashfest '08 tournament
                          5th in Phynx's Unofficial FFR Tournament
                          9th in D3 of the 2008-2009 4th Official FFR Tournament
                          10th in D5 of the 2010 5th Official FFR Tournament
                          10th in D6 of the 2011-2012 6th Official FFR Tournament

                          FMO AAA Count: 71
                          FGO AAA Count: 10

                          Bluearrowll = The Canadian player who can not detect awkward patterns. If it's awkward for most people, it's normal for Terry. If the file is difficult but super straight forward, he has issues. If he's AAAing a FGO but then heard that his favorite Hockey team was losing by a point, Hockey > FFR
                          PS: Cool AAA's Terry
                          - I Love You


                          An Alarm Clock's Haiku
                          beep beep beep beep beep
                          beep beep beep beep beep beep beep
                          beep beep beep beep beep
                          - ieatyourlvllol

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                          • bmah
                            shots FIRED
                            Profile Moderator
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                            Global Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8448

                            #16318
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                            I won't lie - our batch did have some weaker files. The batch that Kayla had seemed noticeably stronger in terms file quality - I was glancing over while working on One Winged Angel a while ago.
                            While this may be true, my suspicions regard the level of detail and scrutiny between various judges. That's what's fishy. Beyond quality of the files themselves, you have to inspect it this way - how files were evaluated.

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                            • TC_Halogen
                              Rhythm game specialist.
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 19376

                              #16319
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              Fair enough. But what can be done to compensate for such a high amount of "error"?

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                              • bmah
                                shots FIRED
                                Profile Moderator
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                Global Moderator
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 8448

                                #16320
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                Nothing but experience. Which means that let's hope that simfilers AND judges learn from each batch judgment.

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