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  • bmah
    shots FIRED
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    • Oct 2003
    • 8448

    #16366
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    Fixes for queued files can be sent without rejudging - unless you're changing the file significantly. If so, please let us know in your email.
    Last edited by bmah; 11-22-2010, 10:47 PM.

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    • jimerax
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      • Nov 2003
      • 8185

      #16367
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      Oh I misread

      As for queue'd files, you can just send the .dwi. will write about it.

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      • dore
        caveman pornstar
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        • Feb 2006
        • 6317

        #16368
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        so why is a +. +. +. rejected outright? I don't understand the premise here (and yes I'm asking because it affects me, but only because that's how I noticed that particular example and I disagree with rejecting a +. +. +. without any discussion, further judging, etc.)
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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        • TC_Halogen
          Rhythm game specialist.
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          • Feb 2008
          • 19376

          #16369
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          +. 3x isn't a reject to my knowledge. +. +. +? is borderline though.

          EDIT: oh, I see what you're saying. I guess JX and bmah went over and made sure the acceptances were justified, because it seems like we lost 8 accepted files.
          Last edited by TC_Halogen; 11-23-2010, 03:57 PM.

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          • dore
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            • Feb 2006
            • 6317

            #16370
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            yeah they upped the points requirements for a couple of the groups
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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            • jimerax
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              • Nov 2003
              • 8185

              #16371
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              you mean 12/15 files in G1 and G4? It was accept on my 2nd criteria idea but

              1. acceptance rate adjustment among groups (it's needed this time).
              2. 41 files are way too many for accepted files.
              3. just resubmit with improvement if files are rejected.

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              • bmah
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                • Oct 2003
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                #16372
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                I guess JX and bmah went over and made sure the acceptances were justified, because it seems like we lost 8 accepted files.
                I made a staff progress report earlier, but I did not specifically go over simfiles again. You'll have to ask jx about that. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the imbalance of accepted files amongst various judges. Think of it like a grading curve.

                *ninja'd*

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                • Khenra
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 272

                  #16373
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  How long does it approximately take for a submission to be graded? I've submitted a file a few days ago and haven't heard anything from it since.

                  I don't know where to look for feedback either.. the OP of this thread?
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                  • dore
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                    • Feb 2006
                    • 6317

                    #16374
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    I understand that but I think my disagreement stems from the fact that you're comparing different judges on different files with different levels of experience, so it's hard (especially with some people having only ever judged ~25 files for FFR ever) to get a decent determination of what is judging bias and what is actual discrepancy in quality from one group to another. I just think that unless (a) all of the judges judge every file and you can compare directly, (b) a few people play every file in order to subjectively judge the trends, or (c) all of the judges are in direct communication with each other during the judging process (which should happen anyway, because it's much easier to reduce discrepancies based on what mood you're in that particular day or even the order of the files, which can impact the final judgment), it's hard to compare.

                    I really don't mind making the changes and redoing it, I just question the premise of the decision. (And in my case, I feel like I could've gotten that extra point from one of the judges by changing 10 notes, and I don't think that should be the boundary from absolute acceptance to absolute rejection)
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                    • bmah
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                      • Oct 2003
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                      #16375
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Khenra
                      How long does it approximately take for a submission to be graded? I've submitted a file a few days ago and haven't heard anything from it since.

                      I don't know where to look for feedback either.. the OP of this thread?
                      It varies, but it can take anywhere from 2 weeks to a month+ for submissions to be graded. We're hoping that reviews in future batches will be done at a reasonable pace.

                      For feedback of the files you've submitted, please refer to the batch review thread.

                      @dore: the inconsistency due to the level of judging experience (or lack of) is something I'm trying to tackle...it's one reason why I made a progress report, as well as providing resubmitted files an extra sort of distinction amongst the others. I have a number of files that weren't accepted that I suspect was due to this issue. If I actually can't find anything to fix, I'm going to send them completely unchanged, because it's not an issue on my end if it's due to judging incompetency. You can't completely eliminate the problem with this many judges, but I'm trying to reduce it.
                      Last edited by bmah; 11-23-2010, 04:21 PM.

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                      • ( ゚д゚)彡
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 654

                        #16376
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        11eleven was judged [+] [+.] [+.] (13 points) why was it rejected
                        Last edited by 0; 11-23-2010, 04:37 PM.

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                        • bmah
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                          • Oct 2003
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                          #16377
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          The only reason I can think of is that perhaps decisions may have been finalized based off of Halogen's earlier post, which in this case I do notice a discrepency (noted as +.,+.,+. = 12pts). I'd like to have jx confirm this.

                          Human error sucks, I know.

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                          • jimerax
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 8185

                            #16378
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            oh +, +., +., is accept, will check and change it.

                            If there're miscounts tell me about them.

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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #16379
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              I bet the judges hate my file because of all the jumpstream. It isn't to much different then the jumpstream in exciting hyperhighspeed star though.

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                              • Plan_Bsk81127
                                snooches
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                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6420

                                #16380
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                FFR needs more jumpstream and chill out on the bursty dnb songs for a bit. lol.

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