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  • Korygon
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2010
    • 138

    #16066
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

    To be honest most of those files weren't that bad. Plus with the fact that this game looks for easier files as well (aka stuff below a 1 on the DCP scale), it allows more leniency. Most of the changes end up just being personal preference stuff.


    Plus a lot of the stuff in the first part of the alphabet was done by established simauthors thus they leaned towards being a bit better.

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    • Patashu
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2006
      • 8609

      #16067
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

      BUIZEL ACCEPTS EVERYTHING

      I do agree that this part of the batch was actually good overall though. quite surprising

      one problem with figuring out what to rank is that it essentially has two dimensions - how good it is now, and how much room it has for improvement. a file could be alright but not have any obvious way to do better, or it could be great and have the potential to become much greater with lots of fixes and tweaking. so do you rate the first one a + and the second one a +? or the other way around?
      Last edited by Patashu; 10-28-2010, 04:50 PM.
      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
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      • kommisar
        Dark Chancellor
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Jun 2005
        • 7324

        #16068
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

        awwwwwwww right gonna get to judging tonight


        man my group is going to have a lot of rejected files lmao. idk how nsane judges tho we'll see.





        GETTING TO WORK:

        Perseverence [-]

        -those 32nds at m6 are a) barely audible and b) awful patterns.
        -Some jumps feel inconsistent.
        -m25 adding random mini jacks in stream? doesn't make much sense. Seems you're adding jump jacks just for the sake of difficulty.
        -File has some potential, but forcing difficulty on a file doesn't always work.


        Mathematics [+?]

        -Well crafted file, although quite repetitive.
        -ok very repetitive.


        No Running Water [+]

        -Very chill file
        -Simple yet elegant, great easy file.


        Pokémon [-]

        -First of all, Pitch relevancy is off right from the start
        -m5 the second 4th should be a 16th if you're following the melody. The rest of the melody isn't followed properly here either.
        -m6 huge gap with nothing going on?
        -m13 this would've worked with two note jacks for the bass piano notes
        -m19 overall pr could be fixed here, even in the jumpstream.
        -m25 shouldn't be two note trills. If you listen carefully to the piano there's a whole lot else going on.


        Prokofiev [+.]

        -Not much to complain about here, pr is well done.
        -Some parts feel a little repeated. The 16th gallops get a little old after a while.
        -Not much diversity but aite I guess.


        Pure Ruby [+.]

        -m7 the 16th run should start on a lower note (pr)
        -m13 I really don't see the need to put random 24th notes.
        -m22 16th notes questionable. Don't hear anything prominent to generate those.
        -m51 if you're placing jumps to the piano hits, there should be one on the 3rd 4th, and 4th 4th of m52.
        -Listen to your piano runs with jumps again. Quite a few jumps missed.
        -File has lots of fun value but needs fixes.


        Radiant Moonlight [-]

        -m5 missed a 16th note after the last 8th, same with m9
        -m14 I don't quite understand your layering here. Randomly stop using jumps on some 4th notes?
        -After playing the same patterns for 20 measures, it gets old.
        -Has some overall inconsistencies


        RAN [+]

        -Fantastic
        -Some bursts kinda hard to hit
        -m64 if you're going to put a burst after these jump jacks, at least place them on the opposite hand to hit


        Rondo a Capriccio [+.]

        -Very fun file
        -Only complaint is that sometimes your transition between bass piano notes and melody notes is a little inconsistent, however it's at very few areas.
        -m102 you sure those are 12ths? I think it was just a mistake.
        -Just that little part fixed and it's a guranteed accept


        Run Kirby Run [+.]

        -Not sure placing jumps to every lead note was the best idear since it looks a little cluttered and dumpstreamy at parts.
        -Cool song with fun parts


        Saikyou OX Keikaku [-]

        -Rebirth's is more accurate and better in general, sorry.


        Sakura Blue Sky [+]

        -Well layered easy file.
        -Literally don't have anything else to say about this lol.
        -Have a hail emoticon o/


        Shooogun [-]


        -m14 these should be 12ths?
        -some drum rolls are 32nds, not 24ths
        -m29 these are 16ths not 12ths
        -lots of rhythms need some looking over.


        Smash Podcast [+]

        -Short and completely awesome.


        Song of the Second Moon [+?]

        -these low ass bpms make this impossible to judge lmao.
        -m18 these jump jacks you're following must be to some inaudible sound cuz they certainly don't fit
        -Don't think there's a whole lot else wrong except for the song being dj donna summers but yea.


        Sparkle Downer [+]

        -Ugh making me review T11 this late....
        -Rhythm wise it's perfectly fine. Patterns are good even for the rainbow dumps
        -very well done.


        Take up the Cross [-]

        -m11 I hear some 32nds in here, if you're going to follow these.
        -m12 look over the rhythms again. Second 8th should be a 4th.
        -A few parts need some looking over concerning missed rhythms.


        The Fusion [+]

        -Kinda repetitive as a whole since it's the same rhythms over and over with a few variations.
        -File however is excellent. Nothing wrong here.


        This Could've Been Nice [+?]

        -m16 uhh... 225bpm 16th jacks are a little much man.
        -m22 stepping the buzzing sound is fine but at that speed, 64ths are again, a little much
        -m78 place the jump jacks on [12] so that the roll lands on [4][3][2][1] and makes it less awkward to hit
        -m80 again that jack is ugh
        -m118 you definitely need to fix this part up. Way too hard. single notes for the 32nds/24ths and jump trills for the 16ths?
        -File is very accurately stepped, just needs some fixing to make it consistent difficulty wise.


        Try to Star [+.]

        -finally a file I don't have to say pr is wrong at the start lmao.
        -m48 feels a little empty compared to the rest. feels like the percussions should be followed.
        -m59-60 really, that long of a one handed trill? ugh. At that bpm for the rest of the file it's a little much.
        -a few concerns of mine, but an otherwise very fun file.


        Voodoo People [+]

        -Nothing wrong at all. Pr is spot on.
        -Only thing that irks me is starting at m49, there's always a gap where I feel there should at least be a 4th note (on m50 for example) since you're following 4th snare.


        White Walls [+.]

        -m13 one handed 32nd trill is a no-no
        -Some of those hands seem thrown in just to make it harder and fmo.
        -m52/53 speeding it up like that making it 4ths and 8ths will probably throw off whoever's playing it on ffr since it's all cmodded.
        -Impressive sync and well stepped


        Wolf by Night, Human in Dreams [+.]

        -Start is pretty repetitive.
        -m64 there's a syncopated 12th note you could place to add to the feel of it since you're following percs.


        Yellow Lasers [+]

        -Coul karaoke steps
        -Haha wow.


        Yellowknife [-]

        -m16 not sure placing those 32nds as trills is very consistent to the difficulty.
        -Very repetitive. Basically just the same rhythms with layered jumps.
        -Lacks fun value in general.
        Last edited by kommisar; 10-29-2010, 07:27 AM.

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        • Korygon
          FFR Player
          • Oct 2010
          • 138

          #16069
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

          patashu what are you talking about? im usually the one to reject everything haha

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          • psychoangel691
            Retired Staff
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2004
            • 10438

            #16070
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

            I know you guys are judging the old batch right now and were talking about closing the recent batch but did that actually get closed? If not I'm going to send something in.
            Originally posted by Charu
            My dick is good, thank you very much. It gets love and attention no matter what <3 <3 <3
            Originally posted by DaBackpack
            also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
            Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
            Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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            • customstuff
              ♥C.S. + A.M.♥
              • Nov 2006
              • 4892

              #16071
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

              I hope Shooogun gets in... it was actually good

              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
              Placements are final, custom will not be moved to D6, just because he is good at jacks, and mediocre at just about every other FMO in the game.
              Originally posted by customstuff
              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
              welcome to D6

              start playing

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              • bmah
                shots FIRED
                Profile Moderator
                FFR Simfile Author
                Global Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 8448

                #16072
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by psychoangel691
                I know you guys are judging the old batch right now and were talking about closing the recent batch but did that actually get closed? If not I'm going to send something in.
                No, the current batch has yet to be officially closed. Also, files can be sent anytime...if the batch is closed, files sent during this period will be due for the next batch.

                Status: current batch has no file limitations, subsequent ones will

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                • psychoangel691
                  Retired Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 10438

                  #16073
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                  Okay thanks gonna make some fixes and send em in then.
                  Originally posted by Charu
                  My dick is good, thank you very much. It gets love and attention no matter what <3 <3 <3
                  Originally posted by DaBackpack
                  also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
                  Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                  Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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                  • Vote4Nixon
                    Simdeist
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 230

                    #16074
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                    I feel the urge to play Dark Shark AAA'd This! even though I don't have to...
                    Originally posted by championanwar
                    Footbull, you just got PANDAPOP'D!
                    It's Super effective!


                    FFR Widget Songs
                    Wiggers are for wiggers...

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                    • who_cares973
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 15407

                      #16075
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                      something like the old batch review thread would be great that was people will be able to find and reference the posts easier instead of having them scattered throughout this thread

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                      • Patashu
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 8609

                        #16076
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Vote4Nixon
                        I feel the urge to play Dark Shark AAA'd This! even though I don't have to...
                        it has six charts
                        the first step is to find the serious chart
                        the second step is to reject it
                        Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                        http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                        Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                        http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                        • jimerax
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 8185

                          #16077
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                          You can auto-reject files that have multiple charts, without even playing.

                          Making a thread for reviews would be good, but we can't make it judge-exclusive (only judges can post) here.
                          Last edited by jimerax; 10-28-2010, 09:57 PM.

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #16078
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                            Death Traveller (Vote4Nixon) [+.] (9)
                            This chart has an awkward feel to it...
                            m10-24 feels strangely accented because you opted to choose the quiet, background riffs - it leaves you no room to accent more important things like cymbal crashes.
                            m32-34: why'd you stop accenting the snare?
                            m36 - beat 143.500, misplaced jack
                            m44 - missed jump according to your layering (there are two piano notes there)

                            Overall, the layering is proper, and the pseudo-pitch relevant run is a interesting touch, but it feels strange because it doesn't feel accented properly to me; it's a fairly subjective issue though.


                            Deco Stop (The5thMoon) [-]
                            This song definitely could use a cut.

                            Inconsistent step choice throughout the slower sections - same step mini-jacks are indicative of something going on where there's nothing really there. The snares and bass drums are accented properly, but the slower sections drag on much longer than they should. The faster sections have accenting issues - some snares are accented and others aren't.

                            The roll at m99 ending in 64ths is a bit ridiculous for 202 BPM.

                            There's just a lot of issues scattered throughout this chart, and it was rough to make it through.

                            Directly Perfectly (???) [?]
                            Layering is correct, but uses the same patterns throughout the chart and doesn't accommodate for the constant changes in pitch for the synthesized melody. Just overall plain.

                            Directly Perfectly (who_cares973) [+.] (11)
                            Missing a fair amount 24th blips (you only see them once, at m12??)/32nd hi-hat bursts, but you seem to cover those where they fit the most. I prefer this chart over the other one because it takes account of the synth which does have a very nice, distinguished melody. Chart flows fairly nicely aside from the mini-jacks, but they hold accuracy to the music so I can't really nail you on that.


                            Disco 80's (bmah) [+.] (9)
                            Only reason you're getting a +. and not a + from me is because the song just DRAGS. The chart is accurate, and it actually has some interesting pattern choice. I find it fun, but I can't stand listening to the song.


                            Dizzay (customstuff) [-]
                            Sync deviates like crazy, song is very uninteresting, and the chart is just all over the place. I see some percussion relevance, but the overall pattern choice and structure is not pleasant.

                            Dreamin' In The 80s (bluguerilla) [+.] (8)
                            Pretty nifty little easy chart you have here. Absolutely LOVE the pitch-relevancy hidden within the run in measures 15 to 19. Only thing I have to say that irks me about the chart is the BPM shifting from 100 to 200 when the song sounds fairly slow paced, even behind the piano runs.


                            Dumpstream (0) [-]
                            accurate, but seriously not fun - no one is going to appreciate 270 BPM runningmen. Also, I see a lot of copy/paste.

                            Eating Crow (bluguerilla & Coolboyrulez0) [+?]
                            Jump usage is a bit odd in the vocal areas in m17-m24 - the repetition of the vocals makes sense but it seems like you don't bother to accent them in the first half, which irks me slightly. m43-46 and m64-70, while correct, feel overlayered because of what's being used. I personally think this song would do better with an easier chart, and it also feels a lot longer than it really is.

                            Epileptic Crisis (suicidaln00b) [?/!]
                            I don't recall us ever having permission to use this song. Chart has really poor pattern choice, and some of the bursts are just god-awful choice for the BPM that the song is(m15,19,20,22,etc.). If there's any consolation to this, there's at least proper layering for a decent amount of the chart.

                            ESC - Amplified T Squared Mix (DarkZtar) [+?]
                            Inconsistent bass drum accenting in the beginning, make sure you catch all of them that you can without layering into any of the bursts.

                            m12 - remove the mini-jack that forms from coming into this burst
                            m20 - change all of the flams to the same two notes; you switch it at the end.
                            m21 - take out the 8th note of the first 32nd sequence to give that separated feel. Beat 83.000 - should be a 32nd roll here.
                            m33 - change the very end of this snare sequence since a different percussion comes over the top of the snare.
                            m72 - even with the snare building up, you could probably fit the jacks for the voice if you wanted to, just don't layer them, keep it as a single stream

                            m58-m72 is REALLY intense, but man would that be one hell of a nice challenge for some of the upper level players; I'd really like to see this in game with some of these fixes.

                            Experiment (championanwar) [+] (7)
                            Nice lower-level chart. Flows pretty nicely and the usage of 32nds isn't really seen consistently without bursts, which is also pretty neat. Song feels a little longer than it should, but nothing too bad.


                            Extreme Dishwasher Race (megamon88) [+.] (10)
                            Layering is clean for the most part. Some of the mini-jacks are a bit questionable. Synth melody from m17 to m24 is nicely stepped with the exception of the two mini-jacks in m20. Layering in m43 is a bit awkward only because of your choice in the section before it, not much to be changed there. Any reason why you're missing the layering for the sound at beat 178.750 (m45) until the end of the song? Fairly fun chart.


                            Field of Snow (stavie33) [-]
                            Lack of pitch relevance where the chart could definitely use it, and the layering is extremely inconsistent - you have two verses (m22-38/m66-82) that sound the same (in fact, the second one has MORE) but are stepped entirely differently. The mini-jack usage throughout the chart makes it feel extremely rigid and forced, and the extreme layering just shows that you wanted to accommodate for every sound, rather than making a chart that focuses on a few things.

                            Floating Through Time (who_cares973) [+] (5)
                            Simple chart with pitch relevancy and a decent amount of patterns to keep the player busy.


                            For FFR v2 (TC_Cyrenics) [?]
                            misrhythm in m7, ghost notes in m8/m9; grace notes in m40 not needed; ghost note in m62 (b245.875), ghost notes in m66/m67/m72/m74, and the BPM change at the end is totally unnecessary (although it might provide a nice visual gimmick once converted to FFR).

                            Overall, the patterns are a bit bland, and there's a lack of attention towards very specific rhythms. I will say that I did like the runningmen from measures 45 to 48.

                            Frühlingsrauschen (Xandertrax) [-]
                            m2/m3/m4/m33 is missing the last 32nd note in the run; m5/6/34/35 24th note bursts are misrhythms; not liking the intentional mis-quantize at m16-m21; the beginning of m26 is faster than 24ths; m28-31 is missing layering for the higher treble-clef notes (start at beat 109.667)...

                            ...the errors stack up so much in this file. There's some (incorrect) pitch-relevancy throughout the chart, coupled with a not-so-great pattern choice.

                            Gene Gadget Zone (TC_Cyrenics & bmah) [+.] (9)
                            I like how you're able to maintain instrument revelance even without displaying proper pitch fairly deep into the song - it took me quite a few repeats of the introduction to see that you kept that relevance in that awkward sounding synth pretty far into the beginning. The rest of the chart holds focus on two instruments, and when it does so, it does so properly. It's a bit difficult to notice at first glance, though. Song drags on a bit, but nothing major.


                            Greensleeves (woker-X) [+.] (6)
                            Long, but very nicely stepped overall.


                            Grocery Escape Plan (dore & bluguerilla) [fgsfds]
                            I couldn't stop laughing while listening to this song, holy ****. In all seriousness though, the chart is a pretty typical dore chart - heavily layered and will not stray away from the same patterns if the same instrument or sound is played. The jack usage is a bit rough though. My actual rating for this would probably be a [+?].

                            Hand Throw (OperationStrawberry) [-]
                            Sync is completely off and couldn't even get through enough of the song to figure out what the hell is going on - quit out.

                            Happy Guy Falls Off A Not So Happy Mountain (Shadowlessheart) [?]
                            I do see some understanding of relevance in pitch, but the song overall just doesn't have any sort of replayability. It's also a bit too short...

                            Hate (WTFBrandon) [?]
                            Chart makes sense in that it focuses on two instruments, however, using this layering throughout the entire chart makes it extremely boring, not to mention the chart structure is very strange.

                            Holy War (DJAirWave) [?]
                            For an easier chart, PR isn't entirely necessary, but when it's obvious that you're trying to have that relevance and it's incorrect, it looks strange. Mini-jacks at 170 BPM in a lower-level chart isn't exactly the best of pattern choices. With a little bit of correction in pattern choice, this could be a decent file for a great song.

                            Honey Cookie (0) [-]
                            Started great. Hit m16. Quit out immediately.
                            Last edited by TC_Halogen; 10-28-2010, 10:34 PM.

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                            • jimerax
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8185

                              #16079
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                              added submission rules in the top post.

                              tell me if I'm missing something.

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                              • Patashu
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 8609

                                #16080
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

                                How about something like:
                                'It should be a simfile that is fun to play for you and others, goes well to the song and captures all its themes and variations and has been confirmed to be on sync on a low music rate.'
                                Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                                http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                                http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                                Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                                http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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