Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[Patashu]

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big boss isn't that good it's really straight forward

vote4nixon's oriental inspiration is an example of an interesting file but he didn't give it to anyone but me I think

[TC_Halogen]

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STOP NINJA'ING ME YOU ****S
entirely @ Kory AGAIN

When we judged, we were trying to give the gist of basic structure in files, rather than nailing them in specific sections (otherwise, it'd get quite tedious). Because of this, people started to produce slightly better charts in term of structure.

I figured, going into SM to nail someone who is just starting on technical errors would be a bit nuts because they wouldn't know how to fix them.

Step by step process.

[psychoangel691]

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You could be a little more specific. Maybe mention the specific measures/time in the song. Also give suggestions to what can be used in place of the runs.

Encouragement is good, but people need to know why a part needs to be changed, and without specifics it gets confusing

I know but we had it a bit different over there. Carlos was the one that got real technical and into detail with people had I needed to I could have but I was the "fun factor" one out of the group lol. So I just pointed out really big things with charts that were holding it back while they got more into the technical stuff. Plus since we were so close knit most of the time we discussed peoples charts in chat because it was just easier that way.

[Korygon]

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Well what I'm getting at, you about runs. That's very generic. What does you mean by runs? I've heard the term used to describe a ton of different patterns. Say "Oh after measureXX you continue the use of this pattern. Maybe try this instead?"

Of course its gonna vary file to file, but most people who make files have a lot of issues seeing errors in their own work. They need more specific judgment.

[T-Force]

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Oh and going to what you said about all these new artists. I'm looking forward to seeing these submissions. We need more artists to revive the general FFR and Stepmania community

Hi. One of said new folks here. I've only really gotten into stepping in the last year and my charts are in no way perfect. Kayla and AJ can vouch for that, but I have surprised both of them at times. Hopefully I can do the same for everyone.

But main point. DF is where a whole lot of us either got started with stepping, or got that extra boost of encouragement towards stepping in general. Creating a chart to a song we enjoyed and making that chart not only accurate, but fun as well. While sacrifice of technicality of PR and whatnot was made, it helped us create something we could be proud of. Now I don't know if everyone else on DF can agree, but that's how I felt. Now that FFR's back, I'm going to try to get my name out.

I've already sent in one file to this batch so I'll leave it to the judges to determine whether or not I've come as far as I've hoped.

[psychoangel691]

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Well what I'm getting at, you about runs. That's very generic. What does you mean by runs? I've heard the term used to describe a ton of different patterns. Say "Oh after measureXX you continue the use of this pattern. Maybe try this instead?"

Of course its gonna vary file to file, but most people who make files have a lot of issues seeing errors in their own work. They need more specific judgment.

In this case it wasn't necessary because he had submitted the chart once before and it was something that was more specifically pointed out previously but he never changed it. It was just "our way" of doing things in general. People knew what we meant cause our system was a bit more simple and if it was needed we would explain in more detail but again that generally happened in chat because both AJ and I spent a tremendous amount of time online so we were able to work with people one on one a lot to help them improve.

[TC_Halogen]

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Also, you don't necessarily need to have created an amazing amount of files to get anywhere. My very first 6-key submission to KBO (5th chart overall) got unanimously accepted (was extremely shocked to see this once I had a judging title, haha). Certain people have extreme potential just by looking at files (like I did at Kommisar's 6-key files). There's quite a few people sitting on DF who have a fair shot of getting files in with a bit of guidance and help. With the right help, you can make a person who struggles with rhythms and can't accent properly, to a person who is trying more advanced FFR techniques, like color gimmicks and extreme bursts (iironiic comes to mind from DF). Not to say that he's perfect, but he reminds me of my old self when I was first starting drum n' bass charts. I want to be the person to move him out of just that genre, and I want to be the person to help himself obtain his own unique style, like WC :') did for me on 4-key. It took a while, but I broke past the point of having to ask him a question every minute about how something should be done, when in reality, it was entirely up to me. (Also, bmah helped me a lot when I was first starting, thanks for Tageri ).

The point I'm trying to make to all the new judges basically - don't discourage the newer artists. Try to make them better, because if you do improve them, you've added a good stepartist who has a different take from you into the community. That, is a big plus.

[Korygon]

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Alright. As long as the person knew I guess it's fine.



I feel like we should close this batch, simply because we have to judge the previous batch as well, and figure out our judging system in general

[Xx{Universe}xX]

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Also, you don't necessarily need to have created an amazing amount of files to get anywhere. My very first 6-key submission to KBO (5th chart overall) got unanimously accepted (was extremely shocked to see this once I had a judging title, haha). Certain people have extreme potential just by looking at files (like I did at Kommisar's 6-key files). There's quite a few people sitting on DF who have a fair shot of getting files in with a bit of guidance and help. With the right help, you can make a person who struggles with rhythms and can't accent properly, to a person who is trying more advanced FFR techniques, like color gimmicks and extreme bursts (iironiic comes to mind from DF). Not to say that he's perfect, but he reminds me of my old self when I was first starting drum n' bass charts. I want to be the person to move him out of just that genre, and I want to be the person to help himself obtain his own unique style, like WC :') did for me.

The point I'm trying to make to all the new judges basically - don't discourage the newer artists. Try to make them better, because if you do improve them, you've added a good stepartist who has a different take from you into the community. That, is a big plus.

And this is why you would make a great judge for FFR

Also, am i good enough to judge for FFR? I could definitely point out things that could be improved in files.

EDIT: ****, i posted on alt account lmfao

[psychoangel691]

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Alright. As long as the person knew I guess it's fine.

I should probably mention that these notes were also made in a forum viewable by anyone. Carlos would get really deep into detail with measures, offsets, etc so when I would go to write my review there was no need to repeat things that were already said. Carlos always beat me to em <3 We each just put in a bit of something into the judging from different angles.

[who_cares973]

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my word is law

[psychoangel691]

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my word is law

I think you did an awesome job on DF and I do hope you end up judging here.


I was going to send the final hour to the batch but I already know what errors I'm going to get nailed for on it. So instead I'll just put if up and if anyone feels like playing it go for it. This was my 3rd chart ever made and I find it fun as well as many others. http://www.mediafire.com/?sjmn39t4tmnbqy9

[who_cares973]

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Shoudlve submitted it anyway

[psychoangel691]

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Shoudlve submitted it anyway

I'm kinda stubborn with this chart and don't really want to make the changes on it. Sexplosion on the other hand I'm probably going to make the fixes for and submit.

[customstuff]

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I want to know if my Shooogun file is in the last batch and will be judged or if I should resubmit it...

Edit: Okay, it is. I have six in that batch xD It's one of the few good files I've made :P