Atheism/Theism thread

[Nullifidian]

Re: Atheism/Theism thread

Asking someone to disprove something as a deity is virtually impossible btw
but so is proving a deity

[Reincarnate]

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You say, "The non-existence of a deity is implicit and inherent, the existence of one is yet to be proven."

I say, the non-existence of a deity is also yet to be proven.

The non-existence of Thor has yet to be proven. The non-existence of peanut-butter creatures from Mkgdggd have yet to be proven.

But do you have any good reason to believe in them?

How do you "prove" something doesn't exist?

And once you answer that question -- what good is a belief in something that can't be disproven? Do you realize why this is worthless as a truth claim?

[UserNameGoesHere]

Re: Atheism/Theism thread

I would say most people are whatever religion they are because it's what they were brought up as and it's the religion their parent(s) is/are.

They may like to think they would have eventually converted to whatever current religion they are were they born in a different place and time, but it's more likely they would have had whatever religion was dominant in that place and time.

Also I think there are two very different questions in "Is this particular religion correct?" vs. "Is any religion correct?". To answer the first question, one may read the religious texts of a particular religion, speak with authority figures in the religion (priests/etc...) and study the religious beliefs, evaluate them, and see how they hold up under critical analysis. I don't think the second question can be answered as there can theoretically be an unlimited number of religions and new ones could appear at any time. There just don't exist the resources to tackle it.

[Ohaider]

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pic

das cute

let's make yahweh seem as insignificant as all the other gods we don't believe in when in reality all we do is whine about yahweh on the internet

brought to you by stereotypical athiest

[Reincarnate]

Re: Atheism/Theism thread

das cute

let's make yahweh seem as insignificant as all the other gods we don't believe in when in reality all we do is whine about yahweh on the internet

brought to you by stereotypical athiest

They're all equally insignificant because they are all completely without evidence.

What makes one better than another?

[Ohaider]

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They're all equally insignificant because they are all completely without evidence

Not saying this isn't true^^

but most athiests don't even know of any of those other gods other than yahweh rofl

[Choofers]

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but most athiests don't even know of any of those other gods other than yahweh rofl

this is probably not even remotely true, especially with the advent of the internet

[Reincarnate]

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Not saying this isn't true^^

but most athiests don't even know of any of those other gods other than yahweh rofl

That isn't remotely true at all

[Ohaider]

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probably

i'm sure you can go off and inevitably find something on google regarding this considering the effort put forth, but having had not searched for this, i've never seen an instance in which an athiest on the internet has acknowledged any other god except yahweh and maybe allah haha

other than that cute pic ofc

edit: that's just me personally though haha

[Reincarnate]

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i'm sure you can go off and inevitably find something on google regarding this considering the effort put forth, but having had not searched for this, i've never seen an instance in which an athiest on the internet has acknowledged any other god except yahweh and maybe allah haha

Most internet debates are between atheists and Christians, so Yahweh is going to eat up a fair chunk of the discussion.

"I know you're a Christian, but let us talk about Allah/Ra/Thor/Wotan instead!"

[Nullifidian]

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If people don't even know of at least the Greek or Egyptian gods then idk what they're teaching in schools over there.

[Ohaider]

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Most internet debates are between atheists and Christians, so Yahweh is going to eat up a fair chunk of the discussion.

"I know you're a Christian, but let us talk about Allah/Ra/Thor/Wotan instead!"

If you're regarding retaliations, correct haha

[JJTrixX]

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to answer all of that is simple, It all comes down to the matter of faith. I guess a more refined question to this discussion would be: to have faith vs. not to have faith?

You claim that atheism is not a religion, i could argue both ways that it is and it isn't, but for now let us say atheism is not a religion because it is the lack of belief in a higher being. I also understand there are different types of atheists. Is it you don't believe in a higher being or you don't beleive in anything that can not be proven? Or is your position of atheism a complete absence of faith?

[Choofers]

Re: Atheism/Theism thread

i'm sure you can go off and inevitably find something on google regarding this considering the effort put forth, but having had not searched for this, i've never seen an instance in which an athiest on the internet has acknowledged any other god except yahweh and maybe allah haha

other than that cute pic ofc

edit: that's just me personally though haha

about 33% of the world's population is christian, about 23% is islam

it makes sense that the majority of atheist vs theist content on the internet is against yahweh or allah

[Nullifidian]

Re: Atheism/Theism thread

to answer all of that is simple, It all comes down to the matter of faith. I guess a more refined question to this discussion would be: to have faith vs. not to have faith?

You claim that atheism is not a religion, i could argue both ways that it is and it isn't, but for now let us say atheism is not a religion because it is the lack of belief in a higher being. I also understand there are different types of atheists. Is it you don't believe in a higher being or you don't beleive in anything that can not be proven? Or is your position of atheism a complete absence of faith?

My position is a complete absence of blind faith. I don't take something for granted just because someone says so. I have faith that another day will come tomorrow because it's a consistent and observable phenomenon. I don't have faith in something I can only know is true when we die, given the premise that there is something after death (which also cannot be proven or disproven).