Atheism/Theism thread

[Dynam0]

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@Reincarnate

I take a pragmatic stance because we haven't attained an answer to confirm or deny a supreme being. That would be my why anyways

[Reincarnate]

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Yeah, i understand that. But i'm not the kind of person that will take proclaimed facts word for word, i'm more of a hands on person, i would need solid evidence of my own to form a particular belief, guess i'm never going to have beliefs on how this world was formed. .___________.

Well, facts are facts. You can't dispute facts. They're the same for me, the same for you, and the same for everyone -- considering that we all share the same reality.

As for "solid evidence," there's plenty of it. We know for a fact that our Earth formed from accretion, and this is something you can even look out and see happening in space. The cool thing about astronomy is that you can look back in time due to the way the speed of light works. You can see galaxies/planets/stars undergoing all sorts of different stages of life. Our planet is no exception, as we're just one of many, many, many, many.

[bballa48]

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If you've paid attention to the political landscape of the USA, however, it's pretty clear that the religious influence over things is a far, far greater evil than "the annoying atheist who makes fun of you."

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Agreed, and it needs to stop.

[Reincarnate]

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@Reincarnate

I take a pragmatic stance because we haven't attained an answer to confirm or deny a supreme being. That would be my why anyways

Then I kindly ask you to read this and get back to me (it's one page and will take you no more than a couple minutes)

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

[Choofers]

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To me if you have your own beliefs and they allow you to live a happier and fulfilled life then who the fuck cares. Just don't go cramming it down other people's throats or judging someone on what they believe, regardless of how wrong it might be.

I really wish this was the way religions worked but, unfortunately, a goal of almost every religion is to gather more followers.

It pisses me off when I'm at my aunts house because she's so adamant about "setting me right again with God." But my mom's just like "hey I respect your beliefs but I'll still pray for you," and leaves it at that.

[rushyrulz]

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I call myself agnostic so I can say a hail mary on my death bed and at least have a shot at getting to heaven.

[Ohaider]

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Beliefs are beliefs. I can't call myself atheist, more agnostic really. Pure atheists annoy me more than the average religious person does btw since they scoff at any other belief other than "there is no god/deity/supreme being"

Shit, this.
Overly athiest people annoy me more than overly religious people

I respect any one thats a part of a religion or belief and respects other peoples religions or beliefs even if they don't agree

Hate those fucking athiests that are the most retaliative elitist people in any instance that religion is even mentioned lmao. Got their own stereotype

[RB_Spirit]

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i call myself agnostic so i can say a hail mary on my death bed and at least have a shot at getting to heaven.

lmfao dead!!!!

[Reincarnate]

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IMO it comes down to what you mean by "respect."

Do I "respect" your beliefs? Well, by this it means I won't treat you unfairly because you believe in God, because that belief in itself is harmless. It's not affecting me any more than your preference for ice cream. It's what you want to believe -- so be it.

However, if your belief involves something where you think it's your "right" to impinge on me, or that your God "speaks to/for you" and justifies your ability to screw with me... there's no way in hell I respect that.

Dawkins is an asshole, but basically this:

[Choofers]

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I call myself agnostic so I can say a hail mary on my death bed and at least have a shot at getting to heaven.

mfw pascal's wager

[Pseudo Enigma]

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IMO it comes down to what you mean by "respect."

Do I "respect" your beliefs? Well, by this it means I won't treat you unfairly because you believe in God, because that belief in itself is harmless. It's not affecting me any more than your preference for ice cream. It's what you want to believe -- so be it.

Oh cool someone typed what I wanted to say. I agree.

[Dynam0]

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Then I kindly ask you to read this and get back to me (it's one page and will take you no more than a couple minutes)

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

This simply stated that there are no absolute truths, correct? I guess knowing this, I will forever be agnostic then.

I wouldn't care if the universe were created or not anyways. It shouldn't influence how I live my life should it? I see direct physical consequences to actions, none of this 'fate' crap. No divine intervention here. Although as that article says, what is evidence anyways? In the end it's simply a belief and I am probably trying to impose mine on others too much now. See ya

[Reincarnate]

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I wouldn't care if the universe were created or not anyways. It shouldn't influence how I live my life should it?

Whether you care about any of this or not is a separate question from whether or not X is true/false.

This simply stated that there are no absolute truths, correct? I guess knowing this, I will forever be agnostic then.

The simple point: If something has no physical evidence, it's indistinguishable from that thing not existing.

This applies to infinitely many things. We can't disprove Thor, we can't disprove Zeus, we can't disprove Yahweh, we can't disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster, we can't disprove the Parallel Dimension of Blue Hedgehogs, etc. There are many things we don't believe it because we have no reason to believe in them until shown otherwise.

Most atheists are technically agnostic atheists -- "We don't believe in Gods, but we don't know for certain." Atheists don't know for a fact that there is no God, but they also don't know for a fact that we all aren't just brains in jars undergoing an Experience Engine Matrix, either. Again, though, until some reason presents itself, why give any one arbitrary evidence-less idea credence over another?

[Attractives New Alt]

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many would not consider me religious because i do not attend or belong to any church or formal religious organization, but i have had many religious experiences. i understand what many call "God". my experiences are very real, very concrete, tactile, actual, tangible. there is a fabric that holds us all together, this fabric is god. through god "we" have come into being and through god "we" will no longer be. god is us and we are god. our short earthly lives are filled with the majesty of eternity. we are vessels of god's almighty being. whether we are aware of it or not, we know the farthest stretches of the universe. we know what energies lie beyond, for we are the embodiment of this eternal energy. eternally changing, we are the sum of all existence. when you wake up on a sunny spring morning and the sun caresses your face, know that the sun knows you, for you are one with the stars and the sun.

[Choofers]

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many would not consider me religious because i do not attend or belong to any church or formal religious organization, but i have had many religious experiences. i understand what many call "God". my experiences are very real, very concrete, tactile, actual, tangible. there is a fabric that holds us all together, this fabric is god. through god "we" have come into being and through god "we" will no longer be. god is us and we are god. our short earthly lives are filled with the majesty of eternity. we are vessels of god's almighty being. whether we are aware of it or not, we know the farthest stretches of the universe. we know what energies lie beyond, for we are the embodiment of this eternal energy. eternally changing, we are the sum of all existence. when you wake up on a sunny spring morning and the sun caresses your face, know that the sun knows you, for you are one with the stars and the sun.

i lol'd heartily