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  • AlexDest
    good hot
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2007
    • 5309

    #5416
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

    337.5 bpm 16th jumpstream at ending

    well, good fucking luck ffr

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    • kommisar
      Dark Chancellor
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Jun 2005
      • 7324

      #5417
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

      remix

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      • Razor
        Dan "Razor" Devilz
        FFR Simfile Author
        • May 2004
        • 1606

        #5418
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

        probably submitting:

        Aishiteru Yo Ne - Virtual Riot
        Edge - Virtual Riot
        SigSig - Yuuyu
        Breakthrough Atmosphere - Xi

        if I ever finish zzz
        Originally posted by FFR Forum Awards
        Best FFR file from 2013:
        3rd: Retro City
        Originally posted by Choofers
        I play Stepmania, so I know everything about media formats.

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        • Coolboyrulez0
          VICES
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Aug 2006
          • 10042

          #5419
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

          SigSig - Yuuyu
          Breakthrough Atmosphere - Xi

          https://soundcloud.com/cbrbreakcore
          https://cbrrecords.bandcamp.com/

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          • Arkuski
            FFR Veteran
            • Jul 2006
            • 1118

            #5420
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

            Probably submitting:

            Rainbow Destructor - ParagonX9
            Deceitful Wings - S.S.H.

            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
            i can appreciate a good looking woman when i see one and this one just happened to be my mom

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            • FFR Pro 21
              FFR R1 Vaporeon
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2009
              • 1536

              #5421
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

              Files I'll be submitting:

              • Power, Wisdom, Courage - Powerglove (modified from the last batch)
              • Touhou Judgement in the Sixtieth Year - Fate of Sixty Years - S.S.H. (still a WIP, but I should be able to get it done for the batch)
              • CIA Rave v3 - DJ Acsent (really strongly feel that the site could use a v3 as I looked at the other 2 versions of the song)





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              • Xx{Midnight}xX
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2007
                • 8548

                #5422
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                Originally posted by AlexDest
                337.5 bpm 16th jumpstream at ending

                well, good fucking luck ffr
                You forgot the sort of stupid shit that gets in all the time, that sounds like it'd get through because "ffr needs more dump stream."

                Also I have no idea what I want to send this batch.

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                • Razor
                  Dan "Razor" Devilz
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2004
                  • 1606

                  #5423
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                  Originally posted by Coolboyrulez0
                  SigSig - Yuuyu
                  Breakthrough Atmosphere - Xi

                  you know how I do
                  Originally posted by FFR Forum Awards
                  Best FFR file from 2013:
                  3rd: Retro City
                  Originally posted by Choofers
                  I play Stepmania, so I know everything about media formats.

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                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #5424
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                    I'm trying to constrain myself to files that are no higher than VC in difficulty for the next batch.

                    As of now:

                    - Aventyr [Heavy] / Grand Thaw - I intend on making an [Oni] as well.
                    - Alias / Rameses B - will be cut down a bit, probably ~2:20; have been testing a few cuts
                    - Sentence / me - might cut this down by a phrase, depending on how it plays; I made the first part of this progress a little too slowly...

                    Not sure what I want to do for the fourth song -- anyone have suggestions?

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                    • Razor
                      Dan "Razor" Devilz
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • May 2004
                      • 1606

                      #5425
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                      include the BGA for Aventyr :]
                      Originally posted by FFR Forum Awards
                      Best FFR file from 2013:
                      3rd: Retro City
                      Originally posted by Choofers
                      I play Stepmania, so I know everything about media formats.

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                      • iironiic
                        D6 FFR Legacy Player
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4342

                        #5426
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                        Submitting probably one file this time. Grad Erjila by Grand Thaw. I will probably make edits to it when I have the time.

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                        • Plan_Bsk81127
                          snooches
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6420

                          #5427
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                          Posting here since its related to the batch, but imo I think the way we go about the batch process needs to be updated because the current way is pretty bad.

                          My suggestion is to make the batches more frequent. Instead of having these 5 month gaps in between batches, make the batches monthly or every two months. Now of course going about it this way means other things need to change, but they will change for the better. By making the batches more frequent, this means you have to cut the amount of files accepted which will be simple to do and be more beneficial.

                          So in order to cut the amount of files accepted just make the acceptance rate more strict. This isn't a bad thing, it is actually what is needed because it is a joke that charts that get through with a 6/10 rating, never get fixed, then get thrown in game. Don't see why charts with a failing grade deserve to be put in game. Poor quality charts shouldn't be accepted, that's pretty clear. Make the acceptance rate more strict like 8/10 in order to be accepted. This indeed will cut down the amount of charts accepted each batch, they will be good quality charts, and leading into my next point, people will not have to wait 5 months to resubmit it. The stricter acceptance rating will push people to learn more about stepping and push them to try harder on their charts knowing they need a minimum of 8/10 in order to get by.

                          Doing the batches every month or every two months would for sure be better for users. They no longer have to hold on to files extended periods of time just to wait for the next batch to open, which is very nice if you are resubmitting a chart that barely missed the cut the first time. This new process would also keep people stepping actively. I'm sure it would be nice to have the pressure off knowing that if you don't make it this batch, the next one is not too far down the road.

                          Now, onto how this is affecting judging. I'm sure some will think by making the batches in such a crunch period of time, judging is going to be rushed or some other nonsense like that. Based off of past actions with judging, it is easy to see they don't need all that much time to judge through charts and it doesnt take as much time as they think it needs to judge through their part of the batch. A good chunk of them either do them the first or last day anyway. Don't often see someone drag it out the whole week+ like we are doing now. If you cant do notes that quick then dont be a judge, you clearly arent suited for it. Half the time the notes dont even seem to be useful from some of the judges anyway, so I dont see a week+ worth of effort being put in. Either way, aside from that, we have plenty of people who can judge. I think there are plenty of people in the community who are at least as good as the current judges. We will have plenty of backups if the primary judges aren't available to judge certain batches. There will be plenty of batches, so it will help give them a breather from time to time.

                          Overall, this has been on my mind for awhile now, and just wanted to others views on it, because I honestly think this process needs a change. Its a mess and we need to find a way to change it to make it a better process as well as get better quality charts in game.

                          So: batches monthly or every two months(week 1: submissions, week 2: judging, week 3: notes released; can be ajusted, but just a basic layout), stricter acceptance rate(8/10), get more judges, etc. The process doesnt take more than a month tbh, this two~ month process with a 5-6 month gap between batches needs to go.

                          Side note: Another topic that would be nice to discuss is forcing fixes on charts. We have notes for a reason and if they arent going to be applied whats the point of wasting the time, give a number grade and move on. Force people to fix their charts before putting them in game, especially if the same issues are coming from multiple judges.

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                          • kommisar
                            Dark Chancellor
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 7324

                            #5428
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                            batches are usually every month or two months lol


                            unless there's a major tourney going on

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                            • Charu
                              Snivy! Dohoho!
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 6161

                              #5429
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                              Oh yeah.

                              Resubmitting:

                              Jeh Jeh Slammin' by DJ EAR

                              Sending in:

                              Super Scooter Mappy by Yamajet

                              Raccoon Flicka by Kommisar


                              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                              Had a very shiny nose
                              And if you ever saw it
                              You could even say it glows

                              All of the other Snivies
                              Used to laugh and call him names
                              They never let poor Charu
                              Join in any Snivy games

                              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                              • DarkZtar
                                (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 668

                                #5430
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                                Not sure what I want to do for the fourth song -- anyone have suggestions?
                                wanna collab? I only have 1 file ready atm ~=[

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