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  • HoneyMelonCalibrator
    Arrow Theory™
    • Feb 2009
    • 905

    #196
    Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

    Incorporating AAAs, FCs, and token gets into veteran status seems overwhelmingly stupid.
    Originally posted by ?
    祇園精舎の鐘の聲、
    諸行無常の響あり。
    娑羅雙樹の花の色、
    盛者必衰のことわりをあらはす。
    おごれる人も久しからず、
    唯春の夜の夢のごとし。
    たけき者も遂にほろびぬ、
    偏に風の前の塵に同じ。

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    • Mulie
      FFR Player
      • Jan 2009
      • 190

      #197
      Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

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      • XCV
        has nice tits
        • Nov 2008
        • 744

        #198
        Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

        I disagree with his disagreeing.

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        • MetalAtlas
          FFR Veteran
          • Aug 2007
          • 1691

          #199
          Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

          so youre saying that if i wanted to be a vet, id haveta go whore songs to get the AAA's? I thought we were against whoring for status. I may not have been here the longest by any stretch but i've held many tournies, have a decent amount of posts, a moderate amount of points, and games played, not to mention subscribed a bunch of times, risen and killed a clan among other things. This is just an example. Plenty of people contribute to tournies and song files and do a bunch of stuff for the site, Those dedicated people that make ffr that much more fun are the ones who should be considered vets. Just cause I dont feel like being a perfectionist doesnt mean i should be counted out
          As life gets longer, awful feels softer and it feels pretty soft to me. And if it takes **** to make bliss well I feel pretty blissfully. If life's not beautiful without the pain, well I'd rather never even ever see beauty again. As life gets longer, awful feels softer, and it feels pretty soft to me.

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          • adlp
            FFR Veteran
            • Jul 2006
            • 1757

            #200
            Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

            i beat almost all the cod games on veteran so that makes me a veteran

            im glad ffr recognizes me as a veteran

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            • DTShady
              Yum!
              • Sep 2008
              • 34

              #201
              Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

              Forum posts definitely shouldn't count towards vet status. Not many people like posting on forums and I personally don't consider them a part of the game.

              I remember seeing a comment that "People could just whore 3Bil points in a couple days.". I loled because, don't you think if they are capable of doing that they deserve vet status anyway?

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              • Mulie
                FFR Player
                • Jan 2009
                • 190

                #202
                Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                Originally posted by MetalAtlas
                so youre saying that if i wanted to be a vet, id haveta go whore songs to get the AAA's?
                No.

                Originally posted by Mulie
                Even I'm almost tempted to agree. However, after a little thought, I'm not convinced adding a skill factor would have the effect you two suggest.

                Most people play the game repeatedly, gathering GTS and slowly improving their skill. Since that Vet threshold's scaled fairly low at a requirement of 4,500 points (with 5 points per AAA, 1 per FC), making the FCs they earn worth something as well as the few AAAs they can muster, most players would reach Vet as a function of natural game progression long before filling even a third of the skill point cap; simply because they'd simultaneously be earning points from GTS and time (and if they're really into the community, posts). This should become pretty evident if you look at all those stats I listed, but with a little more credit for their AAAs and FCs (since I didn't revise them). [example]

                And once one gains Vet status, one wouldn't have to concern themselves with it again.

                These "veteran points" should be a hidden part of the calculation. Rather than segregating players, it would encourage game involvement, becoming another piece of underground knowledge (adding depth to the game at the root of the community), and rewarding players for their accomplishments.

                There's a very low incidence of new accounts belonging to players that are already very good at FFR in relation to those of people just starting. But adding these facets would allow those experienced accounts (e.g. Dragon Shot/Velocity) to gain the Vet status they deserve without having to grind the game for GTS, and even still without negatively affecting the inexperienced.

                With this system, DS could realistically earn veteran on Velocity in fewer than two months.

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                • devonin
                  Very Grave Indeed
                  Event Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10120

                  #203
                  Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                  Considering that the balance of features being awarded to veterans was previously being awarded to "Anybody that could cough up a couple bucks a month" I'm not really sure the bar should be that high, or complicated.

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                  • Mulie
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 190

                    #204
                    Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                    The bar's lower than in the suggestion you previously made; and it uses already defined variables, so it should be simple to implement. I think my presentation made it harder to understand. If there's complexity, it's in balancing all the facets; though I think what I outlined works well enough.

                    Anyway, I'm done here.

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                    • GENS151
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 27

                      #205
                      Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                      Originally posted by adlp
                      i beat almost all the cod games on veteran so that makes me a veteran

                      im glad ffr recognizes me as a veteran


                      Amen.
                      (i just need 3 bill right now)
                      Last edited by GENS151; 11-24-2010, 11:08 PM.

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                      • HoneyMelonCalibrator
                        Arrow Theory™
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 905

                        #206
                        Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                        Originally posted by Izzy
                        Not that our opinions are going to change anything but I think it would be cool to have one for the forum, one for the game, and one for join date. Adding the veteran status caused enough problems already though so it probably isn't changing any time soon.
                        This is the smartest post I've read in the entire thread.
                        Originally posted by ?
                        祇園精舎の鐘の聲、
                        諸行無常の響あり。
                        娑羅雙樹の花の色、
                        盛者必衰のことわりをあらはす。
                        おごれる人も久しからず、
                        唯春の夜の夢のごとし。
                        たけき者も遂にほろびぬ、
                        偏に風の前の塵に同じ。

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                        • justaguy
                          Forum User
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 3566

                          #207
                          Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                          this entire thread is because people are upset they dont have a cool rank

                          ****in nerds
                          #TeamSwoll

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                          • OneHandNow
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 5305

                            #208
                            Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                            You can't suddenly change your joindate to 2007. That's that.

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                            • MagicCarpetRide
                              Skware One
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1125

                              #209
                              Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                              at 2.7 bil. brb playing FFR for the first time in years

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                              • GENS151
                                FFR Player
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 27

                                #210
                                Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                                Ha,Very close to the veteran status there

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