New Veteran Status - Opinions?

[Mulie]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

All things considered, how could anyone possibly think a hard time requirement for veteran status is a good idea? Words can't express my astonishment.

[whiteflame]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

What about ffr are you interested in then?

At one point and time the forums, but mostly the VC.

[MrGiggles]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

itt we slowly discover that nothing will satisfy everyone and in fact it's possible that no one will ever be satisfied by anything

[TomatoShadow]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

I'm satisfied with the current system. It's a nice idea to give the subscriber privileges to people who have been there for a while.

[Mulie]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

I'm satisfied with the current system. It's a nice idea to give the subscriber privileges to people who have been there for a while.

I strongly disagree. The current requirements are unsatisfactory. Three billion GTS is too easy of a requirement alone and 3 years is too long a wait for otherwise active people.

The main reason you're satisfied is that under the current system, you qualify! The list of people that don't, yet deserve to, just keeps growing. VanillaMnm, Leonid, devonin... ME. I mean, my old account almost qualifies, and I sucked back then. This account won't qualify for over a year. And countless inactive users do almost qualify, just because they made their accounts earlier. Just a bit of activity on their end and those privileges would be theirs.

Furthermore, don't you think a postcount requisite as high as 500 or 1000 per "point" toward Vet status would be a little off-putting to the average forum spammer? Said hypothetical spammers won't need to be told about Vet. They'd spam anyway. And what are mods for?

You'd think these things would be conventionally understood... but no, if there's anything I've learned here, it's that if you want to be your opinion to be heard in such a thread the same points must be reiterated relentlessly until every respectable participant is satisfied.

Going by his suggestion you need 7 years, and
1 year = 1 billion GTS = 1000 posts

Though I think this is a little better:
1 year = 2 billion GTS = 500 posts

What really got to me were Rubix's posts. Even though he was trolling. He was trolling.

[jchinzilla]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

im worthless...i don't deserve such high honors as a flashflashrevolution vet

[who_cares973]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

u'll never amount to anything with a mindset like that at the age of 13!!

[jchinzilla]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

i don't care i just want to insulate myself from the world so nothing bad will happen to me ever again

e: ...sorry that's my post traumatic stress disorder talking. i've seen too many unspeakable things as a veteran...

[TC_Halogen]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

ex: obtain 4,500 points

forum post: +1 for every two posts
account length: +750 per year
game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

etc.

basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.

[Reincarnate]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

It comes down to "What kind of people do we want to reward?"

1. People who play the game
2. People who've been here a long time
3. People who interact with the community

I see no reason to reward #3. Some people play the game consistently for a long time but don't really post much. When you consider what Veteran status awards you, why hold those functionalities back from someone who just happens to not be a part of the community?

[HoneyMelonCalibrator]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

ex: obtain 4,500 points

forum post: +1 for every two posts
account length: +750 per year
game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

etc.

basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.

That's not a bad idea, AJ. But I still think that veteran status should correlate to how long someone has been a member more than anything else. Maybe the mods could create a (separate) hierarchy of forum ranks (low poster, moderate poster, prolific poster) etc. since I see stuff like that in virtually every other forum I run across nowadays.

[rushyrulz]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

ex: obtain 4,500 points

forum post: +1 for every two posts
account length: +750 per year
game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

etc.

basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.

I like devonin's idea on the 7 years = veteran ; 1 year = GTS/posts.

But I think it would be easier if there were a BUNCH of factors that could contribute, like say there's a point-based scale where you would need 1000 to become veteran. There could be factors such as:

Every 1 billion GTS = 100 points
Every 1000 forum posts = 150 points
Every 6 months on the site = 150 points
Every 5000 FFR Games played = 150 points
Every token (skill/reg) = 15 points
Maybe something for profile votes or MP games

I think it should be a high points goal with a ton of possibilities. This way, the amount of work is more equal. If someone plays the game a ton and doesn't go on the forums, they could rely on the game metrics of the point scale and they wouldn't have to go whore posts in the forums. If someone's more social and on the forums, they could obtain Veteran Status by racking up points with posts/profiles and wouldn't have to play the game if they don't want.

Subtracting from 7 years just seems odd to me, but the concept is great.

Oh, and additional rewards for people who rock the forums and the game

Lets see if DarkbearX trolls you too with all the "hard to code" bullcrap.

[HoneyMelonCalibrator]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

vet·er·an
   /ˈvɛtərən, ˈvɛtrən/ Show Spelled[vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a person who has had long service or experience in an occupation, office, or the like: a veteran of the police force; a veteran of many sports competitions.

[XCV]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

ex: obtain 4,500 points

forum post: +1 for every two posts
account length: +750 per year
game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

etc.

basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.

And then you have the people like me who are just plain antisocial. [If that was actually in play I'd be hovering around 1750.] However, I play the game for hours on end. I'm on break, so I go to sleep at about 1 AM, get up at 5, eat breakfast then play FFR off and on for about two-thirds of the day.

I think that system is sound, though, even for us steel-traps.

Goal: get 3bil before any of this happens so I don't have to worry about it (DOUBLE EDIT: oh it's both, nvm)

Suppose vet status was awarded for just being good at the game. Average of avrank and gts rank under 1000, etc. plus a postcount requirement (250? 500?)

[SeraphinEveles]

Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

It comes down to "What kind of people do we want to reward?"

1. People who play the game
2. People who've been here a long time
3. People who interact with the community

I see no reason to reward #3. Some people play the game consistently for a long time but don't really post much. When you consider what Veteran status awards you, why hold those functionalities back from someone who just happens to not be a part of the community?

that's where i come in. i haven't posted around the forums too much, never been too much around here to catch my interest, but I've had an account for 3 years, and played almost 1000 games (300m GTS, been gone here and there(working mostly), plus the site was down for awhile)