New Veteran Status - Opinions?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Mulie
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 190

    #151
    Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

    All things considered, how could anyone possibly think a hard time requirement for veteran status is a good idea? Words can't express my astonishment.

    Comment

    • whiteflame
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2005
      • 378

      #152
      Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

      Originally posted by Izzy
      What about ffr are you interested in then?
      At one point and time the forums, but mostly the VC.

      Comment

      • MrGiggles
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 2846

        #153
        Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

        itt we slowly discover that nothing will satisfy everyone and in fact it's possible that no one will ever be satisfied by anything

        Comment

        • TomatoShadow
          FFR Vet
          • Nov 2006
          • 150

          #154
          Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

          I'm satisfied with the current system. It's a nice idea to give the subscriber privileges to people who have been there for a while.

          Comment

          • Mulie
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2009
            • 190

            #155
            Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

            Originally posted by TomatoShadow
            I'm satisfied with the current system. It's a nice idea to give the subscriber privileges to people who have been there for a while.
            I strongly disagree. The current requirements are unsatisfactory. Three billion GTS is too easy of a requirement alone and 3 years is too long a wait for otherwise active people.

            The main reason you're satisfied is that under the current system, you qualify! The list of people that don't, yet deserve to, just keeps growing. VanillaMnm, Leonid, devonin... ME. I mean, my old account almost qualifies, and I sucked back then. This account won't qualify for over a year. And countless inactive users do almost qualify, just because they made their accounts earlier. Just a bit of activity on their end and those privileges would be theirs.

            Furthermore, don't you think a postcount requisite as high as 500 or 1000 per "point" toward Vet status would be a little off-putting to the average forum spammer? Said hypothetical spammers won't need to be told about Vet. They'd spam anyway. And what are mods for?

            You'd think these things would be conventionally understood... but no, if there's anything I've learned here, it's that if you want to be your opinion to be heard in such a thread the same points must be reiterated relentlessly until every respectable participant is satisfied.
            Originally posted by Mulie
            Going by his suggestion you need 7 years, and
            1 year = 1 billion GTS = 1000 posts

            Though I think this is a little better:
            1 year = 2 billion GTS = 500 posts
            What really got to me were Rubix's posts. Even though he was trolling. He was trolling.
            Last edited by Mulie; 11-23-2010, 12:47 AM.

            Comment

            • jchinzilla
              i like cheese
              • Dec 2005
              • 2106

              #156
              Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

              im worthless...i don't deserve such high honors as a flashflashrevolution vet

              Comment

              • who_cares973
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 15407

                #157
                Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                u'll never amount to anything with a mindset like that at the age of 13!!

                Comment

                • jchinzilla
                  i like cheese
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 2106

                  #158
                  Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                  i don't care i just want to insulate myself from the world so nothing bad will happen to me ever again

                  e: ...sorry that's my post traumatic stress disorder talking. i've seen too many unspeakable things as a veteran...

                  Comment

                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #159
                    Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                    How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

                    ex: obtain 4,500 points

                    forum post: +1 for every two posts
                    account length: +750 per year
                    game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

                    etc.

                    basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

                    Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

                    Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
                    GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
                    Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

                    in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

                    I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.

                    Comment

                    • Reincarnate
                      x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6332

                      #160
                      Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                      It comes down to "What kind of people do we want to reward?"

                      1. People who play the game
                      2. People who've been here a long time
                      3. People who interact with the community

                      I see no reason to reward #3. Some people play the game consistently for a long time but don't really post much. When you consider what Veteran status awards you, why hold those functionalities back from someone who just happens to not be a part of the community?

                      Comment

                      • HoneyMelonCalibrator
                        Arrow Theory™
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 905

                        #161
                        Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                        Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                        How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

                        ex: obtain 4,500 points

                        forum post: +1 for every two posts
                        account length: +750 per year
                        game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

                        etc.

                        basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

                        Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

                        Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
                        GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
                        Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

                        in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

                        I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.
                        That's not a bad idea, AJ. But I still think that veteran status should correlate to how long someone has been a member more than anything else. Maybe the mods could create a (separate) hierarchy of forum ranks (low poster, moderate poster, prolific poster) etc. since I see stuff like that in virtually every other forum I run across nowadays.
                        Originally posted by ?
                        祇園精舎の鐘の聲、
                        諸行無常の響あり。
                        娑羅雙樹の花の色、
                        盛者必衰のことわりをあらはす。
                        おごれる人も久しからず、
                        唯春の夜の夢のごとし。
                        たけき者も遂にほろびぬ、
                        偏に風の前の塵に同じ。

                        Comment

                        • rushyrulz
                          Digital Dancing!
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 12985

                          #162
                          Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                          How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

                          ex: obtain 4,500 points

                          forum post: +1 for every two posts
                          account length: +750 per year
                          game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

                          etc.

                          basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

                          Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

                          Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
                          GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
                          Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

                          in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

                          I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.
                          Originally posted by rushyrulz
                          I like devonin's idea on the 7 years = veteran ; 1 year = GTS/posts.

                          But I think it would be easier if there were a BUNCH of factors that could contribute, like say there's a point-based scale where you would need 1000 to become veteran. There could be factors such as:

                          Every 1 billion GTS = 100 points
                          Every 1000 forum posts = 150 points
                          Every 6 months on the site = 150 points
                          Every 5000 FFR Games played = 150 points
                          Every token (skill/reg) = 15 points
                          Maybe something for profile votes or MP games

                          I think it should be a high points goal with a ton of possibilities. This way, the amount of work is more equal. If someone plays the game a ton and doesn't go on the forums, they could rely on the game metrics of the point scale and they wouldn't have to go whore posts in the forums. If someone's more social and on the forums, they could obtain Veteran Status by racking up points with posts/profiles and wouldn't have to play the game if they don't want.

                          Subtracting from 7 years just seems odd to me, but the concept is great.

                          Oh, and additional rewards for people who rock the forums and the game

                          Lets see if DarkbearX trolls you too with all the "hard to code" bullcrap.


                          Comment

                          • HoneyMelonCalibrator
                            Arrow Theory™
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 905

                            #163
                            Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                            vet·er·an
                               /ˈvɛtərən, ˈvɛtrən/ Show Spelled[vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn] Show IPA
                            –noun
                            1.
                            a person who has had long service or experience in an occupation, office, or the like: a veteran of the police force; a veteran of many sports competitions.
                            Originally posted by ?
                            祇園精舎の鐘の聲、
                            諸行無常の響あり。
                            娑羅雙樹の花の色、
                            盛者必衰のことわりをあらはす。
                            おごれる人も久しからず、
                            唯春の夜の夢のごとし。
                            たけき者も遂にほろびぬ、
                            偏に風の前の塵に同じ。

                            Comment

                            • XCV
                              has nice tits
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 744

                              #164
                              Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                              How about coming up with a point system that can combine each and every aspect together so that having a portion of all three can satisfy the veteran requirement?

                              ex: obtain 4,500 points

                              forum post: +1 for every two posts
                              account length: +750 per year
                              game: +1 per every 5,000,000 gts

                              etc.

                              basically, the point I'm trying to make is, a user can obtain veteran status by using two aspects, rather than just a single one

                              Let's use wc (who happened to be at the end of page 8 and because he's my b*tch so I'll do it anyway :3)

                              Account length: 4.27 (x 750) ~ 3,201
                              GTS: 11,337,198,895 (÷ 5,000,000) ~ 2,267
                              Forum Posts: 9,190 (÷ 2) = 4,595

                              in this case, you have a user who's been active (4.27 years), shows that they have a great interest in the game (11 bil GTS), and they are extremely active in the community (albeit a bit trolly). However, their continued interest in the site has racked them enough points to be a veteran more than twice over (10,063).

                              I can already see people complaining about the system because they choose not to do one of the few things, but the way that I see it - if you haven't been on the site long, why should you be considered? If you don't play the game a lot, why should you be considered? If you can't be bothered to jump in the community, why should you be considered? Forcing two different requirements to be partially attained rather than a single one assures users getting rewarded for what they do, whether it be an active poster in the community or an active player.
                              And then you have the people like me who are just plain antisocial. [If that was actually in play I'd be hovering around 1750.] However, I play the game for hours on end. I'm on break, so I go to sleep at about 1 AM, get up at 5, eat breakfast then play FFR off and on for about two-thirds of the day.

                              I think that system is sound, though, even for us steel-traps.

                              Goal: get 3bil before any of this happens so I don't have to worry about it (DOUBLE EDIT: oh it's both, nvm)

                              Suppose vet status was awarded for just being good at the game. Average of avrank and gts rank under 1000, etc. plus a postcount requirement (250? 500?)
                              Last edited by XCV; 11-23-2010, 01:23 PM.

                              Comment

                              • SeraphinEveles
                                FFR Player
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 109

                                #165
                                Re: New Veteran Status - Opinions?

                                Originally posted by Reincarnate
                                It comes down to "What kind of people do we want to reward?"

                                1. People who play the game
                                2. People who've been here a long time
                                3. People who interact with the community

                                I see no reason to reward #3. Some people play the game consistently for a long time but don't really post much. When you consider what Veteran status awards you, why hold those functionalities back from someone who just happens to not be a part of the community?
                                that's where i come in. i haven't posted around the forums too much, never been too much around here to catch my interest, but I've had an account for 3 years, and played almost 1000 games (300m GTS, been gone here and there(working mostly), plus the site was down for awhile)
                                Last edited by SeraphinEveles; 11-23-2010, 01:31 PM.

                                HA! Finally figured out how to get my Sig in purple, and show the stats i want.
                                I love knowing BBC.

                                Comment

                                Working...