Drinking age lowered to 18?

[awein999]

Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

"If they're all out buying liquor they'll mess up their lives, legally, and learn from it."

rzr: history shows that there are less incidents with the age line higher than lower. And what about the people that were the unforunate victims of a drunk person's crime? True the drunk person may have learned his or her lesson but at the expense of an innocent person?

[devonin]

Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

If you're calling for the age of legality to be raised, and you've already been drinking underage, unless you feel you should voluntarily admit that you were doing something illegal to the police, you're being hypocritical. If you are calling for the age of legality to be raised, and you've never once consumed alcohol, I'd suggest instead that you simply don't understand the subject at hand properly.

[rzr]

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"If they're all out buying liquor they'll mess up their lives, legally, and learn from it."

rzr: history shows that there are less incidents with the age line higher than lower. And what about the people that were the unforunate victims of a drunk person's crime? True the drunk person may have learned his or her lesson but at the expense of an innocent person?

I wasn't too keen on getting personal, but I guess I should say this.

That innocent person could have one day drank or done drugs. But now what? That innocent person has seen its terrors first hand and now won't do it. That's why I won't.

[Chrissi]

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If you're calling for the age of legality to be raised, and you've already been drinking underage, unless you feel you should voluntarily admit that you were doing something illegal to the police, you're being hypocritical.

Not unless they still think underage drinking is good and would advocate it for others.

Just because you do something doesn't mean you think it's a good idea. You can have underage drinkers who think the limit should be raised. These people have an alcohol problem and probably wish to reduce the number of other people who get it.

Maybe it's still a "hypocrite" but the word carries such a negative light that I don't feel comfortable using it to label any underage drinker who advocates raising the legal drinking age.

[-Yukari-]

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Proof of this is... Nonexistant?

rzr, you've already affirmed you are one of these people because I wasn't even talking to you in that post. I didn't mention your name; I didn't mention ANYONE'S name. So the very fact that you got so defensive about a completely non-personal remark leads me to believe that you, as well as pretty much everyone else in this thread probably, have already drank alcohol. Chances are also good you drank enough to get drunk, and maybe even enough to have a hangover. Chances are good most people in this thread have done the same.

Again, pathetic.

EDIT: Devonin posted what I posted in more detail. Nice post, Devonin, I enjoyed it.

[devonin]

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I specifically attached it to underaged drinkers, I guess it is "hypocrite" or "unapologetic law-breaker" their choice.

Also, yukari, can we ease off the insults?

[Chrissi]

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That innocent person could have one day drank or done drugs. But now what? That innocent person has seen its terrors first hand and now won't do it. That's why I won't.

What if the innocent person dies instead?

[Chrissi]

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rzr, you've already affirmed you are one of these people because I wasn't even talking to you in that post. I didn't mention your name; I didn't mention ANYONE'S name. So the very fact that you got so defensive about a completely non-personal remark leads me to believe that you, as well as pretty much everyone else in this thread probably, have already drank alcohol. Chances are also good you drank enough to get drunk, and maybe even enough to have a hangover. Chances are good most people in this thread have done the same.

Again, pathetic.

EDIT: Devonin posted what I posted in more detail. Nice post, Devonin, I enjoyed it.

I think you're having a bad day. Perhaps you should calm down, listen to some hypnotic music, and toke up, instead of making provocative posts on an internet forum.

[-Yukari-]

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Devonin, since you asked Ill stop posting altogether, but FYI I didn't insult anyone in this thread, only in the other one (but I mean come on they deserved it yeah?).

Chrissi, lmfao.

EDIT: It was a serious laugh so we're all good.

[Chrissi]

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I specifically attached it to underaged drinkers, I guess it is "hypocrite" or "unapologetic law-breaker" their choice.

Also, yukari, can we ease off the insults?

You can be apologetic and still do it. You may hate yourself for it, even if you keep doing it.

Haven't you ever had a habit that you hated doing but was hard to break? Personally I pick my toenails to shreds until they're painful. I hate doing it but I keep doing it. I don't want to do it. It feels beyond my control.

Drinkers can feel sorry for drinking.

[awein999]

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sometimes innocent people are murdered by drunks and don't have time to "learn their lesson". And the drunk won't have a second chance

[Chrissi]

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Chrissi, lmfao.

You can laugh but it was a serious suggestion.

[-lolwut-]

Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

If you're calling for the age of legality to be raised, and you've already been drinking underage, unless you feel you should voluntarily admit that you were doing something illegal to the police, you're being hypocritical. If you are calling for the age of legality to be raised, and you've never once consumed alcohol, I'd suggest instead that you simply don't understand the subject at hand properly.

Ok, so I've never drank. I understand perfectly well. Dumbasses at this age will give into peer pressure and drink more than is healthy or more than you can handle. I had a friend get alcohol poisoning and had to go get his parents to tell them their son was passed out in my back yard and had been throwing up because he drank a full bottle of wine and had to get his stomach pumped. Kids try to show off to their friends how much they drink and i guess that proves you're hardcore or something but it really isn't safe for most people under 21 to drink. If you can drink responsibly and know when to cut yourself off it can be ok. The point is most teenagers can't do that

[rzr]

Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

rzr, you've already affirmed you are one of these people because I wasn't even talking to you in that post. I didn't mention your name; I didn't mention ANYONE'S name. So the very fact that you got so defensive about a completely non-personal remark leads me to believe that you, as well as pretty much everyone else in this thread probably, have already drank alcohol. Chances are also good you drank enough to get drunk, and maybe even enough to have a hangover. Chances are good most people in this thread have done the same.

Again, pathetic.

EDIT: Devonin posted what I posted in more detail. Nice post, Devonin, I enjoyed it.

Actually, know-it-all, my parents are abusive alcoholics and drug addicts who beat the **** out of me until social services stuck me in group homes. That's why I won't go near the ****.

Chrissi, if the innocent person dies everyone looses. But everyone can also say "wow... They died. All because this guy was drinking and killed her. I'll never drink because I'd never want to kill someone" (obviously they wouldn't think those exact words, but you get my point).

In fact, 3 kids at my school got in a drunk accident. The girl died and the other two I think are still in critical condition. So many other kids have stopped drinking since then, at my school.

[foilman8805]

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I'll proudly wear that label of hypocrite, but with Chrissi's definition.

I'm 20, and in college - obviously alcohol isn't a scarcity. I've certainly had my time with it, and reflecting on my experiences, I realize that it's not something I should take part in; it's not particularly healthy, and I can have just as much fun doing something sober. I'm not saying that I will forever abstain from drinking alcohol, just that for now I'll wait until it is legal, and when it does become legal for me, I won't be any kind of abuser (not that I ever was). I can damn well guarantee I won't be drinking on my 21st birthday either. That **** tastes pretty bad anyways, lol.

And as for my 'raise the age to 25' comment that seems to be getting so much attention...it was partly said in jest. It was said to emphasize what I feel about the age being lowered - that is, I think it is a bad idea.