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  • foilman8805
    smoke wheat hail satin
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2006
    • 5704

    #31
    Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

    Originally posted by Mans0n
    No there was a public vote... in most colleges in california or something, ther students saying they dont like having to ask people to get them boo's so now yeah this happened.
    Not a legitimate public vote - an opinion poll is what is it would seem.

    Of course if you ask college kids around the state if they want the drinking age to be lowered they're going to say yes. That's so blindingly obvious.

    You could ask a bunch of 10 year olds around the state if they want their recess time extended and you bet your ****ing balls they're all gonna say hell yeah.

    If you can't see how lowering the drinking age would harm society as a whole, and ruin a lot of young people's lives, then you are attached to a biased ignorance and you're probably under 18 to boot.
    Last edited by foilman8805; 08-20-2008, 08:48 PM.

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    • MalDON
      Retired Staff
      • Feb 2004
      • 619

      #32
      Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

      Originally posted by MystictheHedgehog
      I agree with foilman and [TeRa]. Alcohol just needs to be made illegal. What good does it actually do? There is so much more risk added to everyday life with it even around. Most people just drink it to escape their everyday life. Which means they are basically using it as an antidepressant, and oh hey, there are pills for that in which everybody who comes within 200 feet of that person won't be put at risk. It's basically a drug, and if drugs are illegal why can't alcohol be? Sure, there are people mature enough just to have a sip of wine at a party, or something along those lines. But too many people just use it to get ****-faced and escape from life. Maybe 15% of the U.S. can maturely handle it. But that 85% endangers everyone else.

      I wish the would make it illegal altogether. This won't happen though. That's why I would like to see a push for it to be raised, not lowered.
      Considering we tried this and failed, and it's written into the constitution.

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      • stephen_g74
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 153

        #33
        Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

        The drinking age is fine as is. 'nuff said.

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        • Callipygian
          Senior FFR citizen
          • Jun 2007
          • 1537

          #34
          Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

          Originally posted by s0ulst0n3
          Sure, people can GO TO FREAKING WAR and KILL a person at the age of 16, but GOD FORBID drinking underage. It's such a stupid law anyways.
          Agreed. Seriously, sometimes I´m just boggled by the hypocrisy of American law (and the American public). In the Netherlands you can drink beer at 16, all other alcoholic consumptions at 18. All statistics consistently show less drinking problems, less public disorder by drunks and fewer drink-induced health problems in the Netherlands compared to the US. Same with soft drugs: we legalize it, but control it by restricting it to tightly supervised coffe shops that sell limited amounts of controlled drugs, the US prohibits it and creates huge problems with unhealthy crack, illegal drug trafficking, overdoses, criminal activities to finance overpriced illegally distributed drugs etc .

          Instead of losing all control by relegating drinks and drugs to the illegal domain, the US government should probably use more resources to control alcohol and drugs use, give decent education and information, offer good and affordable care to addicts, invest in preventive measures to detect and treat alcohol or drugs abuse in an early stage etc.

          I know, the ancient battle between the European idea of mother state vs the American idea of a strong judicial system and a weak, laissez faire, government, and I'm aware I'm painting a rather black-and-white picture, but the gist should be clear: face the problem and effectively control it instead of being morally puritanistic (pampering addicts, soft on crack-heads, the devil incarnated in youthful alcoholics zomg!), and covering very real problems by supposedly hard and just laws.

          *end of rant*
          Sick nature

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          • Gano
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2006
            • 997

            #35
            Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

            I'm with foilman 1000%

            doraemon bustin caps

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            • foilman8805
              smoke wheat hail satin
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2006
              • 5704

              #36
              Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

              Originally posted by s0ulst0n3
              Lower to 13. Kthnx.
              I know it seems like I'm always picking on you, but I'm not. I just want you to answer a question.

              Why do you want to drink alcohol? What benefit does the consumption of alcohol possess for you, a 13 year old kid?

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              • Go_Oilers_Go
                <<Insert Title Here>>
                • Sep 2004
                • 1436

                #37
                Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                Part of drinking is the feeling of rebelliousness. Thus, lowering the drinking age would just turn drinking into drinking. It wouldn't be as much of a thrill anymore. I myself know many people that have started drinking less once they hit the legal age because there isn't as much adventure for them anymore. I myself did it once for the sake of getting drunk. The next day was not pleasant. >_<

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                • thehunter1117
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 193

                  #38
                  Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                  It is really true...
                  My Guitar.

                  My Unicycle.

                  Psuedo Tokens.
                  None Yet...

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                  • Oni-Paranoia
                    No fucks
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 2440

                    #39
                    Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                    Ppl follow this law in any way.... Wouldnt make a difference IMO

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                    • who_cares973
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 15407

                      #40
                      Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                      Originally posted by IAAW
                      Drinking makes you drive.
                      rofl rofl

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                      • Tex :)
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 428

                        #41
                        Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                        Haha, BAD IDEA!
                        unfortunately still kickin' ~(‾⌣‾~)

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                        • fido123
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 4245

                          #42
                          Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                          Originally posted by MystictheHedgehog
                          I agree with foilman and [TeRa]. Alcohol just needs to be made illegal.
                          I strongly disagree. I think I may enjoy drinking (Not to get drunk) so just because there are idiots who abuse it makes it so nobody can have it? Alcohol has no negative benefits if you drink it responsibly, also they tried making it illegal in the 30's...look how that turned out, mob fights and murders everywhere for the sake of smuggling it.

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                          • MystictheHedgehog
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 699

                            #43
                            Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                            Originally posted by Callipygian
                            Instead of losing all control by relegating drinks and drugs to the illegal domain, the US government should probably use more resources to control alcohol and drugs use, give decent education and information, offer good and affordable care to addicts, invest in preventive measures to detect and treat alcohol or drugs abuse in an early stage etc.
                            Sorry, but the fact remains on this that if the government can't even provide a decent education everywhere for just normal k-12, then I don't want to see money invested in information and education in alcohol. I know education is the state government's priority, but I don't know about other places, Memphis's school system is absolutely terrible. All the school's are over-crowded, there aren't enough teachers because they get paid so poorly, and they can't even build more schools because there isn't any money for it. I want to see problems like this fixed before anything goes into the enforcement and rehabilitation of those that drink. There isn't any way that a school that's limit is 2000 kids should have 2000 freshman alone.

                            EDIT: fido, you hit the point. For those that drink it RESPONSIBLY. There aren't enough of those that would to even consider bringing the drinking age down for one. Yeah, outlawing it isn't the smartest idea due to the panic, but I at least would love to see more control over it...after the screwed up schools get fixed.
                            Last edited by MystictheHedgehog; 08-20-2008, 10:08 PM.
                            Originally posted by Jerry DB
                            how does that even make sense? in the beginning of time there was this 5 billion dollar machine that forced two particles to collide at the speed of light. lets re create that. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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                            • foilman8805
                              smoke wheat hail satin
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 5704

                              #44
                              Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                              You can only imagine why they had to smuggle alcohol, right?

                              It was generally the ones who were addicted, or those looking to make a profit off of those who were addicted.

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                              • fido123
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 4245

                                #45
                                Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                                They made their profit off of selling it to 'Speakeasies' which were pretty much secret bars. Alcoholics weren't the only one there as people would just go there like it was a normal bar, just a bit more risk involved.

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