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  • tuv
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2006
    • 188

    #211
    Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

    It's always been 18 in Canada and we are doing fine.

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    • fido123
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2005
      • 4245

      #212
      Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

      Originally posted by MilkChan
      hhey guys remember when we banned alcohol it was called prohibition YEA THAT TURNED OUT PRETTY GOOD IF YA ASK ME .

      They don't want to lower it to increase profits, they want to lower to decrease drinking related accidents. Less of a thrill or pressure to drink=less accidents. That's pretty much the only reason people drink underage for the thrill of it "being illegal". If it was legal at a lower age would there be more abuse? Also not to mention the whole "yeah yeah legal adult at 18 etc. but can't drink". Gambling is 21 as well but if you're near Indian reservation its 18 so that's a different story.


      and anyone here who's like "omg ya lower it i can drink and look cool in 2 years ^_^ <3 im 16 btw" should shut up and leave because you don't look cool and you're dumb k
      Agreed with everything here. Now that my parents have let me drink a little I see that it's not really a big deal and don't really care a whole lot for it. If I were to go to a party now with this mindset I might only have a few drinks but I would prefer chocolate milk over any alcoholic beverage any day.


      Originally posted by Mans0n
      this thread got whored wow.
      It didn't get whored...it's called a structured conversation which you know nothing about but I guess this is the first thread you've seen +1 page that isn't about post-whoring as that's all I see you do half the time.

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      • OrganisM
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2006
        • 2644

        #213
        Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

        Originally posted by fido123
        It didn't get whored...it's called a structured conversation which you know nothing about but I guess this is the first thread you've seen +1 page that isn't about post-whoring as that's all I see you do half the time.
        Actually, all the intelligent structured debate took place a few pages ago. You have contributed to none of it, as I see is often the case with your posts. So, you have no room to talk.

        This thread at some points was almost CT material, and probably should have been moved there when it was "alive", before ryan, Milk, and fido came in. And if you think it's over difference of opinion, as has been suggested before, I disagreed with foilman, though we each seem to respect each other's differences in opinion.
        .

        Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
        "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
        because the venom gets into the blood stream which
        spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
        changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

        Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


        Originally Posted by
        MrRubix[link]:
        "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

        Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
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        • fido123
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2005
          • 4245

          #214
          Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

          Originally posted by OrganisM
          Actually, all the intelligent structured debate took place a few pages ago. You have contributed to none of it, as I see is often the case with your posts. So, you have no room to talk.
          I was acually the second person to even post in this thread and was expecting it to turn into a bunch of people saying "OMG YEZ MABE SHUD B 16". Also I know I used to post like a ****** but since I have improved my posting greatly. I just recently went though the the first page of "Other posts by Mans0n" and I can truthfully say that 80% of the posts is just whoring like saying "kkk" in the SM Scores thread. Also if you wish to further this please do so via PM so we do not de-rail this thread any further. Also I know Milk Chan's post wasn't CT material but it did bring up a point I wanted to touch and wasn't really a horrible post, it just wasn't structured perfectly for a debate and this is CC so it's to be expected.

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          • OrganisM
            FFR Player
            • Oct 2006
            • 2644

            #215
            Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

            The conversation is ended, as far as I'm concerned. I never mentioned Mans0n's posting and haven't bothered checking as I don't think it's of any consequence. Note that your earlier post doesn't really have any relevance to what you chose to post now. This thread has had its ebbs and flows, but there's no reason to jump in and start throwing around insults. Even when ryan came in and HAI DUDES'd the thread, I moved on to the topic at hand.

            Please contribute or don't bother, that's all I ask.
            .

            Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
            "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
            because the venom gets into the blood stream which
            spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
            changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

            Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


            Originally Posted by
            MrRubix[link]:
            "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

            Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
            "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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            • -zeroSKILL-
              Fuc Da Police
              • Jul 2008
              • 1860

              #216
              Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

              Too drunk to read entire thread. +1 support for Thread title.
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              • MilkChan
                Banned
                • Jul 2005
                • 432

                #217
                Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                Originally posted by OrganisM
                Uhh, I'm not of age, and I drink because I have an appreciation and love of alcohol the same way "responsible adults" do.

                On a side note, my family owns a plot of fertile land in Bulgaria, and perhaps someday I'll return home and start a vineyard there (far off dream, I know). There are grapes that grow only in that region, and they are simply amazing.


                By the way, MilkChan, your arguments are so convoluted and unsubstantiated that it's difficult for me to respond. Use a little logic. And you're contributing nothing by calling people names. If you want to start that, I believe the proper application for a person such as yourself would be "retard". If you would like a phrase, I'll go with one from the late great George Carlin: "pile of redundant protoplasm".
                Ok well sorry im not using dictionary words to live up to your standards but im being somewhat blunt. Banning alcohol was mentioned and obviously that wouldn't work because if people stopped to think for a second they would realize that idea was already attempted decades ago and didn't work and in fact, increased alcohol consumption (and crime as well).

                It was mentioned in an article that it was to lower drinking related accidents, not to increase profits. (Link to said article: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...rinking19.html)

                I used thrill in a general sense. With that thrill taken away from many there would probably be a decrease in binge drinking and drinking related accidents.

                The people who were saying they should lower it to (insert whatever age they are here) just annoyed me, sorry.


                But no go ahead and retort and say im more retarded now or some witty comment or something along the lines of "oh i stopped reading at"/"tl;dr". Im not even gonna argue after this so I don't really care.
                Last edited by MilkChan; 08-22-2008, 02:52 AM.

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                • Tyler Reece
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 131

                  #218
                  Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                  The thing with alcohol, your brain doesn't stop developing until you are 27. While you drink legally at 21, you still have 6 years that your brain could develop more, and in my opinion, they need to raise the age on it. Either way I would drink legally, because my state's law says your parent/guardian can take you to a bar, and buy you a drink, as long as they buy it and give it to you in the bar, it's legal. It's pretty weird.

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                  • MilkChan
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 432

                    #219
                    Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                    Originally posted by Tyler Reece
                    The thing with alcohol, your brain doesn't stop developing until you are 27. While you drink legally at 21, you still have 6 years that your brain could develop more, and in my opinion, they need to raise the age on it. Either way I would drink legally, because my state's law says your parent/guardian can take you to a bar, and buy you a drink, as long as they buy it and give it to you in the bar, it's legal. It's pretty weird.
                    I would say its sort of a give or take situation. I mean, cigarettes are obviously harmful and not good for you at ANY age, yet you still only have to be 18 to smoke. In the end its up to the person whether they choose to drink or to smoke or not.
                    Last edited by MilkChan; 08-22-2008, 03:02 AM.

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                    • ELRayford
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                      • May 2004
                      • 1547

                      #220
                      Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                      Its 18 if you are cool and live near me :P

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                      • MilkChan
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 432

                        #221
                        Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                        Originally posted by ELRayford
                        Its 18 if you are cool and live near me :P
                        It depends which part of the eighties you live in

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                        • OmegaCrowman
                          Among the Gods
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 160

                          #222
                          Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                          Pertaining to this thread, I havent heard anything about a lowered drinking age. My opinion on the matter of if it will help lower drunk driving offenses is no. If it does, it wont be enough to be of significance. Reason I believe that is because I think a good portion of Americans are stupid, especially the youth. This is just my opinion, so if you disagree on anything said, I dont really care.

                          Also, OrganisM, stop being such a hypocrite. You threw out insults at multiple people (mainly from saying "probably should have been moved there when it was "alive", before ryan, Milk, and fido came in."), called MilkChan a "retard" in context, and you talk about not posting things that are irrelivant to the conversation at hand, yet you've got over 1,500 posts and expect us to believe you havent went off topic once? Btw when I say you're a hypocrite for the "retard" comment, that relates to you claming to drink underage like any "responsible adult", all the while trying to flame Milk for calling people stupid, while you're the one calling him stupid (aka, "retard"). Being responsible would require following the law, in which you even admit to not doing in this situation.

                          Finally, I agree with MilkChan on those saying to lower the age even further (those who are serious about it, not the jokers) need to gtfo. Kay I'm done.
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                          • OrganisM
                            FFR Player
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2644

                            #223
                            Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                            I have nothing nice to say, so instead I will say nothing at all.
                            Last edited by devonin; 08-22-2008, 08:02 PM.
                            .

                            Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                            "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                            because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                            spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                            changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                            Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                            Originally Posted by
                            MrRubix[link]:
                            "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                            Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                            "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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                            • Afrobean
                              Admiral in the Red Army
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 13262

                              #224
                              Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                              Originally posted by Tyler Reece
                              The thing with alcohol, your brain doesn't stop developing until you are 27. While you drink legally at 21, you still have 6 years that your brain could develop more, and in my opinion, they need to raise the age on it. Either way I would drink legally, because my state's law says your parent/guardian can take you to a bar, and buy you a drink, as long as they buy it and give it to you in the bar, it's legal. It's pretty weird.
                              That's not weird at all. That is an effective way to learn how to drink safely in moderation.

                              Also notice: safe drinking habits won't put any negative effect on your physical or mental development. The key points are "safe" and "in moderation".

                              Americans are stupid, especially the youth
                              buh... 18 year olds with parents on their back are more apt to be responsible than 21 year olds on their own, particularly if reasonable and safe limitations for these young adults are enforced by the law, in the case that parents prove themselves incompetent.

                              ps people REALLY need to stop coming in here and just saying "duh you can drink at xx age here lolkolololol", it does nothing to add to the conversation, is annoying as **** to see posted repeatedly over and over and over and is just blatant postwhoring. Also bad: the "i can drink in xx amount of time loloololol". Shut the **** up.

                              pps OrganisM shut the **** up too go away no one likes you ^_^

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                              • Tater Tot
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 582

                                #225
                                Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                                I'm always hearing the argument of, "old enough to go to war, old enough to drink", but that's not entirely right. The thing is, when you're going to war, they beat the ability to be responsible about things and handle yourself like an adult into you. Drinking, on the other hand, removes that ability to be responsible. Overall, it comes down to if a person is capable of stopping drinking before they get in over their head. There is proof though, that responsibility comes with age, although that is not always true. It's a matter of the drinkers maturity level when all is said and done.


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