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  • poochieCREAM
    FFR Player
    • May 2008
    • 480

    #226
    Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

    its been like that in australia since forever and we've turned out

    almost normal.

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    • Ika
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2008
      • 33

      #227
      Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

      LOL. Like thats gonna stop anyone. People still drink underage. No big.

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      • Mookage
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2007
        • 227

        #228
        Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

        Originally posted by Jokee
        It's already 18 here in canada but oh well, who cares?
        uhh, doesn't each province/territory have the power over the drinking age? If I'm not mistaken doesn't the drinking age vary throughout Canada, much like in the US?

        I know in the US the each state gets to choose its own drinking age, I thought it was the same in Canada.

        Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

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        • Magewout
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2007
          • 306

          #229
          Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

          Originally posted by Tater Tot
          I'm always hearing the argument of, "old enough to go to war, old enough to drink", but that's not entirely right. The thing is, when you're going to war, they beat the ability to be responsible about things and handle yourself like an adult into you. Drinking, on the other hand, removes that ability to be responsible. Overall, it comes down to if a person is capable of stopping drinking before they get in over their head. There is proof though, that responsibility comes with age, although that is not always true. It's a matter of the drinkers maturity level when all is said and done.
          Eh, what d'you think is the best way to teach someone to be responsible, beat it into them or let them experience their own limits so they can draw their own conclusions? Forcing someone to do anything has the wrong effect - they'll get frustrated and do the exact opposite.

          I've been drinking alcohol since I was like 12 years old. Of course, the first so many years were nothing more than a glass of champagne on my b-day, christmas and new year's eve, but my parents taught me that alcohol can indeed be enjoyable and taste good, but they warned me for drinking too much. My dad even told me "we know you'll probably come home drunk once, and I hope that you'll have such a bad experience that you'll never do it again".
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          • Mans0n
            Sun and Stars
            FFR Music Producer
            • Sep 2006
            • 2907

            #230
            Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

            Also since people wanted to know where I heard this, it was on fox news.
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            • NumiGamer
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2007
              • 337

              #231
              Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

              Well, this MAY come true, and I'm pretty sure its only for a few of the backwater states like Montana and Vermont. They said they DO expect less alchohol related accidents, and there was a legitimate reason to back it all up, but it was almost a month ago I heard this may happen, so I forget.
              Originally posted by tofurox;
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              • Afrobean
                Admiral in the Red Army
                • Dec 2003
                • 13262

                #232
                Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                Originally posted by Ika
                LOL. Like thats gonna stop anyone. People still drink underage. No big.
                Right, but the idea is to create an environment in which these people can learn to drink safely. Not when they're 16 at a crazy party with no reasonable adult supervision. Not when they're 21 and living off on their own.

                You give them a safe way to try this stuff out and these people will be less likely to drink themselves to death irresponsibly. The only potential monkeywrench is drunk driving, but I say, just make laws and punishment even stiffer for that. Anyone who would do something so irresponsible (or, allow themself into a situation whereby alcohol's effect could lead them to do something so irresponsible) doesn't deserve to not be behind bars.

                Originally posted by Mookage
                uhh, doesn't each province/territory have the power over the drinking age? If I'm not mistaken doesn't the drinking age vary throughout Canada, much like in the US?

                I know in the US the each state gets to choose its own drinking age, I thought it was the same in Canada.

                Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.
                As was already said, the federal government has sidestepped the law. Yes, each individual state has the power to set a unique age for imbibing alcohol, yet, if they don't do what the federal government says, the federal government withholds major funding. In other words, the states have power, but the federal government says "use that power and we won't give you money."

                Originally posted by NumiGamer
                Well, this MAY come true, and I'm pretty sure its only for a few of the backwater states like Montana and Vermont. They said they DO expect less alchohol related accidents, and there was a legitimate reason to back it all up, but it was almost a month ago I heard this may happen, so I forget.
                Again, if an individual state chooses to exercise their power, they lose out on major funding. This policy would need to be changed at the source, and only then could individual states set the age as they were originally supposed to be able to.

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                • Mans0n
                  Sun and Stars
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 2907

                  #233
                  Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                  afro is right on the mark guys.
                  Last edited by Mans0n; 08-23-2008, 05:32 PM.
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                  • N0v4Lyf3
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 26

                    #234
                    Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                    I must say, Yay!
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                    • footbull3196
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 514

                      #235
                      Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                      I personally think that the drinking age should be lowered to 18 because people drink underage anyways, so you can't stop everyone from doing that.

                      If people are going to drink beer at 18, you might as well let them drink legally.

                      Also, 18 is the age where a person is truly an adult, and while not all of them are responsible, most of them are, and an adult should be able to handle that situation of drinking beer or not drinking beer.

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                      • Afrobean
                        Admiral in the Red Army
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 13262

                        #236
                        Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                        Originally posted by footbull3196
                        I personally think that the drinking age should be lowered to 18 because people drink underage anyways, so you can't stop everyone from doing that.
                        what

                        If people are going to drink beer at 18, you might as well let them drink legally.
                        No. Don't be stupid. The idea isn't "everyone does it, so just make it legal so no one gets in trouble". That's just ****ing stupid.

                        "If people are going to drive over the speed limit, you might as well let them legally."

                        "If people are going to cheat on their taxes, you might as well let them legally."

                        "If people are going to commit petty theft, you might as well let them legally."

                        The idea isn't "make it legal so people don't get in trouble". The idea is to let them do it SAFELY and allow them to learn how to be responsible with it. The idea is to put these young adults in an environment where they can be supported and learn to drink in moderation. The idea is to stop them from being stupid on their 21st birthday and killing themself. The idea is to stop them from being stupid at a party and killing themself from alcohol before they've even reached 18.

                        Also, 18 is the age where a person is truly an adult, and while not all of them are responsible, most of them are, and an adult should be able to handle that situation of drinking beer or not drinking beer.
                        Holy ****. Most wrong thing I've ever heard. Being 18 does not throw a switch in any person's mind that makes them responsible. In fact, if I had to say so, I would say that MOST people at 18 ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE AT ALL. The only reason freedoms associated with being an adult are granted at that time is because it is UNREASONABLE TO WITHHOLD PERSONAL FREEDOMS if there is no evidence suggesting the person would abuse said freedoms. Really, it's not like they can ever say that a person is responsible enough to be an adult (and in some cases, some people never even get there), so rather than withhold freedom from all for their entire life (good idea, right), they pick an adequate age that "everyone" can feel comfortable with as a cutoff. This is especially useful in modern times, because at this age, the person is likely still in high school, and almost certainly still living with their parents. The idea really isn't to go "ok ur adult now go be adult", the idea is "ok you're old enough that we can't withhold these responsibilities anymore, so you need to take responsibility." This doesn't mean that at 18, a person is responsible enough, it just means that they need to take responsibility for themself.

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                        • Kingofcheese
                          FFR Player
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 38

                          #237
                          Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                          WHAAAAA??????!!!!????
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                          • OrganisM
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                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2644

                            #238
                            Re: Drinking age lowered to 18?

                            Originally posted by Kingofcheese
                            WHAAAAA??????!!!!????
                            Good job bringing a thread back from the dead and contributing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

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