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  • GuidoHunter
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    • Oct 2003
    • 7371

    #406
    Re: Free grammar lessons!

    Were, without question. "Krissy and I", since y'all are both doing the same thing, is treated as a plural subject. Plural subject takes a plural verb.

    I could write up a ton about this, but I'm going to be lazy and let grammarbook.com say it for me (Note rules 1, 3, and 6 for your question specifically):

    Rule 1 Two singular subjects connected by or or nor require a singular verb.
    Example My aunt or my uncle is arriving by train today.


    Rule 2 Two singular subjects connected by either/or or neither/nor require a singular verb as in
    Examples Neither John nor Susan is available.
    Either Kiana or Casey helps today with stage decorations.


    Rule 3 When one of your two subjects is I, put it second and follow it with the singular verb am.
    Example Neither she nor I am going to the festival.


    Rule 4 When a singular subject is connected by or or nor to a plural subject, put the plural subject last and use a plural verb.
    Example The book or the magazines are on the shelf.


    Rule 5 When a singular and plural subject are connected by either/or or neither/nor, put the plural subject last and use a plural verb.
    Example Neither Jenny nor the others are available.


    Rule 6 As a general rule, use a plural verb with two or more subjects when they are connected by and.
    Example A car and a bike are my means of transportation.


    Rule 7 Sometimes the subject is separated from the verb by words such as along with, as well as, besides, or not. Ignore these expressions when determining whether to use a singular or plural verb.
    Examples The politician, along with the newsmen, is expected shortly.
    Excitement, as well as nervousness, is the cause
    of her shaking.


    Rule 8 The pronouns each, everyone, every one, everybody, anyone, anybody, someone, and somebody are singular and require singular verbs. Do not be misled by what follows of.
    Examples Each of the girls sings well.
    Every one of the cakes is gone.
    NOTE: Everyone is one word when it means everybody. Every one is two words when the meaning is each one.


    Rule 9 With words that indicate portions—percent, fraction, part, majority, some, all, none, remainder, etc.—look at the noun in your of phrase (object of the preposition) to determine whether to use a singular or plural verb. If the object of the preposition is singular, use a singular verb. If the object of the preposition is plural, use a plural verb.

    NOTE: Apparently, the SAT testing service considers none as a singular word only. [edit]Guido edit: I'm going to let a different site address this one:
    TOMBSTONE: None is always singular.
    R.I.P. Not always. In fact, none is more likely to be plural.

    Many people seem to have been taught that none always means "not one" (as in, None of the chickens is hatched). But most authorities have always believed that none is closer in meaning to "not any (of them)" than to "not one (of them)." So it's considered plural in most cases and takes a plural verb: None of the chickens are hatched.

    None is singular only when it means "none of it"—that is to say, "no amount." (None of the milk was spilled.)

    If you really do mean "not one," say "not one."

    I'm getting mixed signals regarding this, but just know that 'none' can be singular or plural, and nobody's going to kill you for using either.[/edit]

    Examples Fifty percent of the pie has disappeared.
    Pie is the object of the preposition of.
    Fifty percent of the pies have disappeared.
    Pies is the object of the preposition.
    One-third of the city is unemployed.
    One-third of the people are unemployed.

    NOTE: Hyphenate all spelled-out fractions.

    All of the pie is gone.
    All of the pies are gone.
    Some of the pie is missing.
    Some of the pies are missing.


    Rule 10 When either and neither are subjects, they always take singular verbs.
    Examples Neither of them is available to speak right now.
    Either of us is capable of doing the job.


    Rule 11 The words here and there are never subjects because they are not nouns. In sentences beginning with here or there, the true subject follows the verb.
    Examples There are four hurdles to jump.
    There is a high hurdle to jump.


    Rule 12 Use a singular verb with sums of money or periods of time.
    Examples Ten dollars is a high price to pay.
    Five years is the maximum sentence for that offense.


    Rule 13 Sometimes the pronoun who, that, or which is the subject of the verb in the middle of the sentence. The pronouns who, that, and which become singular or plural according to the noun directly in front of them. So if that noun is singular, use a singular verb. If it is plural, use a plural verb.
    Examples Charlene is the scientist who write/writes the reports.
    The word in front of who is scientist, which is singular. Therefore, use the singular verb writes.
    He is one of the men who does/do the work.
    The word in front of who is men, which is plural. Therefore, use the plural verb do.


    Rule 14 Collective nouns such as team and staff may be either singular or plural depending on their use in the sentence.
    Examples The staff is in a meeting.
    Staff is acting as a unit here.
    The staff are in disagreement about the findings.
    The staff are acting as separate individuals in this sentence.
    The sentence would read even better like this:
    The staff members are in disagreement about the findings.

    --Guido

    Last edited by GuidoHunter; 05-30-2007, 08:58 PM.

    Originally posted by Grandiagod
    Originally posted by Grandiagod
    She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
    Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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    • TheRapingDragon
      A car crash mind
      • Aug 2005
      • 9788

      #407
      Re: Free grammar lessons!

      Cheers. Though it is bad that I found errors in that grammar stuff you quoted.

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      • _the_forbiden_
        FFR Player
        • May 2007
        • 10

        #408
        Re: Free grammar lessons!

        Yay for grammer.
        No one is Anon if they say they are Anon.

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        • arnold411
          FFR Player
          • May 2007
          • 3

          #409
          Re: Free grammar lessons!

          .............

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          • TheRapingDragon
            A car crash mind
            • Aug 2005
            • 9788

            #410
            Re: Free grammar lessons!

            Originally posted by _the_forbiden_
            Yay for grammer.
            Re: Free grammar lessons!
            How can you guys be so stupid.

            This is like in English class when people would spell things wrong even though the words had been in the question to which they were answering.

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            • coolade123
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2005
              • 326

              #411
              Re: Free grammar lessons!

              I have a question. Can you say "shouldn't've?" Sort of sounds right, yet doesn't seem to look right when you spell it.


              Originally posted by KgZ
              Straw? No, too stupid a fad. I put soot on warts.

              lmao what

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              • Relambrien
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2006
                • 1644

                #412
                Re: Free grammar lessons!

                Originally posted by coolade123
                I have a question. Can you say "shouldn't've?" Sort of sounds right, yet doesn't seem to look right when you spell it.
                While you can say it, it's not really correct, for whatever reason. A contraction combines two words, not three. As far as I know, there are no words in the English language that contain two apostrophes, which implies that contractions are only used to combine exactly two words.

                You can look it up if you want; that's just my take.

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                • GuidoHunter
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 7371

                  #413
                  Re: Free grammar lessons!

                  Originally posted by coolade123
                  I have a question. Can you say "shouldn't've?" Sort of sounds right, yet doesn't seem to look right when you spell it.
                  I've really never seen any official word on it (granted, I haven't looked hard). If you ask me, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to. A contraction is simply contracting a phrase into a word; I don't see why that can't be three words instead of two. At some point, of course, it could get out of hand, but I really don't see any reason to want to contract more than three words.

                  Look at it this way: for any formal writing purposes, you shouldn't use any contractions in the first place, so if there's ever a major concern where making the right choice matters, just say "should not have".

                  However, there might be a time when you want to write in a dialect or, for whatever reason, emphasize the slurring together of words. I know that in speech I say "shouldn't've" a lot, so if you want to express that in words, by all means do so. I realize that this goes for breaking any rule of grammar, but here there's no clear rule to break.

                  EDIT: All the entries for "contraction" on dictionary.com use the term "a group of words", not just "two words". Also, apparently, "o'clock" is a contraction of three words: "of the clock".

                  Quote from wikipedia: "Although uncommon in written English, people often use complex contractions such as wouldn't've for would not have, or combining auxiliary verbs with nouns, e.g. John'd fix your TV if you asked him. Although these can look awkward in print, they are natural and frequently-heard colloquialisms."

                  --Guido


                  Originally posted by Grandiagod
                  Originally posted by Grandiagod
                  She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
                  Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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                  • frickfrock99
                    FFR Player
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 22

                    #414
                    Re: Free grammar lessons!

                    haha this is sooo cruel it's hillarious
                    Yeah

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                    • TheRapingDragon
                      A car crash mind
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 9788

                      #415
                      Re: Free grammar lessons!

                      Originally posted by frickfrock99
                      haha this is sooo cruel it's hillarious
                      Go smoke some more dope, homie.

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                      • ubercuber721
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 4

                        #416
                        Is F.B.I. [I]really[I] supposed to be called an acronym, or should it be called an initialism? I've heard it called that before, but is it right?

                        Same thing goes for like CIA or NHL or HDTV
                        Last edited by GuidoHunter; 06-5-2007, 10:58 PM.

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                        • AuraSage
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 100

                          #417
                          Re: Free grammar lessons!

                          u should go teach elementary school.

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                          -IE Rejector

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                          • GuidoHunter
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 7371

                            #418
                            Re: Free grammar lessons!

                            Originally posted by ubercuber721
                            Is F.B.I. [I]really[I] supposed to be called an acronym, or should it be called an initialism? I've heard it called that before, but is it right?

                            Same thing goes for like CIA or NHL or HDTV
                            Technically, they aren't acronyms because they don't form a word (you don't hear people talking about the "fibbey"). I only recently learned that it has to become a new "word" in order for it to be considered an acronym. I don't know what to call it, though "initialism" sounds like it would work if it's actually a word. I'm not going to cry if you call FBI an acronym, though.

                            P.S. don't double post.

                            --Guido


                            Originally posted by Grandiagod
                            Originally posted by Grandiagod
                            She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
                            Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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                            • Squeek
                              let it snow~
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 14444

                              #419
                              Re: Free grammar lessons!

                              Wow, I honestly had no idea there was any difference. I also had no idea 'initialism' was a word. I mean, Firefox is telling me right now that it isn't. That's how uncommon it is.

                              Shows how little I know (and care) about the English language, and yet I still hate it when people screw minor things up. Hypocrisy for the win?

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                              • krystyne
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2007
                                • 8

                                #420
                                Re: Free grammar lessons!

                                what ever to all u guys
                                Last edited by krystyne; 06-6-2007, 12:45 PM.

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