Atheism/Theism thread

[Coolboyrulez0]

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Serious answer: Emotional utility + ignorance

and additionally, which i guess is a sub-tangent of ignorance, another big one is the passing down of religion via family / communities.
like many belief systems or political ideologies, they are usually passed down from family to family if you remain ignorant as to not build your own viewpoint but rather blindly accept the beliefs of your ancestors or local communities to be true. what's the term for this passing down of belief systems via family, reincarnate? It eludes me right now.

[Choofers]

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I respect people's right to believe what they want to believe.

I don't respect religion. (o:

[Reincarnate]

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It's really, really hard to be both scientifically literate and theist at the same time because you start to see why religion simply isn't needed to explain anything you think it might

[bballa48]

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Reading the Bible will make you an atheist, if you're religion's main book is the Bible, anyway.

I regret that I am starting to realize this, haha.

I would like to take this moment to formally apologize for any batshit crazy arguments I made in the past.

I am definitely not atheist, but all the logical evidence is on that side. I wish Christians could just accept the Bible is flawed beyond repair and just focus on the basic tenants, i.e. God made us and wants us to love everyone so we can all live in paradise. The end.

[RB_Spirit]

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It's really, really hard to be both scientifically literate and atheist at the same time because you start to see why religion simply isn't needed to explain anything you think it might

I'm definitely open to atheism, i just find it rather hard to believe any given thing cited from a scientist, just as i find it hard to believe in any given religion thats' only supposed facts are from a book. Everyone in the lent thread definitely misunderstood me when i opened this debate, i meant to be as FAIR as possible, not rant about my religious beliefs(Which i don't have)

[Coolboyrulez0]

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I respect people's right to believe what they want to believe.

I don't respect religion. (o:

Also this, plus from my experience, at least in real life, if you out yourself as a an atheist, people wish to convert you or damn you to hell instead of the other way around.

If you look at it purely as a work of literature, the bible is actually pretty cool.

Most definitely one of the best pieces of fiction ever written.

[j-rodd123]

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don't equate atheism to science tho lol

[Dynam0]

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Beliefs are beliefs. I can't call myself atheist, more agnostic really. Pure atheists annoy me more than the average religious person does btw since they scoff at any other belief other than "there is no god/deity/supreme being"

To me if you have your own beliefs and they allow you to live a happier and fulfilled life then who the fuck cares. Just don't go cramming it down other people's throats or judging someone on what they believe, regardless of how wrong it might be.

[j-rodd123]

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Beliefs are beliefs. I can't call myself atheist, more agnostic really. Pure atheists annoy me more than the average religious person does btw since they scoff at any other belief other than "there is no god/deity/supreme being"

To me if you have your own beliefs and they allow you to live a happier and fulfilled life then who the fuck cares. Just don't go cramming it down other people's throats.

and this post is pretty much me too

[Reincarnate]

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I'm definitely open to atheism, i just find it rather hard to believe any given thing cited from a scientist, just as i find it hard to believe in any given religion thats' only supposed facts are from a book. Everyone in the lent thread definitely misunderstood me when i opened this debate, i meant to be as FAIR as possible, not rant about my religious beliefs(Which i don't have)

The difference is that science is based in hard evidence, whereas religion is not.

[RB_Spirit]

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Beliefs are beliefs. I can't call myself atheist, more agnostic really. Pure atheists annoy me more than the average religious person does btw since they scoff at any other belief other than "there is no god/deity/supreme being"

To me if you have your own beliefs and they allow you to live a happier and fulfilled life then who the fuck cares. Just don't go cramming it down other people's throats or judging someone on what they believe, regardless of how wrong it might be.

I 100% respect that about you, and i'm basically on the same boat as you as far as beliefs go.

[Coolboyrulez0]

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On a less serious note, something that I think all "camps" (atheists, agnostics, theists) can laugh about:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/checkmate-atheists

[RB_Spirit]

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The difference is that science is based in hard evidence, whereas religion is not.

Yeah, i understand that. But i'm not the kind of person that will take proclaimed facts word for word, i'm more of a hands on person, i would need solid evidence of my own to form a particular belief, guess i'm never going to have beliefs on how this world was formed. .___________.

[Reincarnate]

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Beliefs are beliefs. I can't call myself atheist, more agnostic really. Pure atheists annoy me more than the average religious person does btw since they scoff at any other belief other than "there is no god/deity/supreme being"

To me if you have your own beliefs and they allow you to live a happier and fulfilled life then who the fuck cares. Just don't go cramming it down other people's throats or judging someone on what they believe, regardless of how wrong it might be.

If you've paid attention to the political landscape of the USA, however, it's pretty clear that the religious influence over things is a far, far greater evil than "the annoying atheist who makes fun of you."

There are plenty of atheists who are still dumb as shit when it comes to scientific literacy -- in which case I would say they are right, but for the "wrong" reasons. Of course I fall into the camp of those who think that people should be able to back up why they believe what they do.

[iironiic]

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Beliefs are beliefs. I can't call myself atheist, more agnostic really. Pure atheists annoy me more than the average religious person does btw since they scoff at any other belief other than "there is no god/deity/supreme being"

To me if you have your own beliefs and they allow you to live a happier and fulfilled life then who the fuck cares. Just don't go cramming it down other people's throats or judging someone on what they believe, regardless of how wrong it might be.

Bingo. And likewise for me. This sums up the thread well. Props.