PS3 is dead (IMO)

[cC@Zz]

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MGS pwns Gears of War.

That may be true, but so what. Saying PS3 has all the best games is stupid since alot of their big games will be on the 360 as well. Besides MGS, Final Fantasy, and Devil May Cry I dont see much reason to buy a PS3 when I can play Zelda, Smash Bros, Elebits and Warioware on the Wii and Gears of War, Lost Planet, and Oblivian on the 360.

PS3 has very little exclusive title that make me want to buy it. GTA and Oblivian will all be on the 360 and PS3. Also if that rumor about MGS also being on the 360 then I don't see any reason to buy a PS3.

[shrimpy]

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That may be true, but so what. Saying PS3 has all the best games is stupid since alot of their big games will be on the 360 as well. Besides MGS, Final Fantasy, and Devil May Cry I dont see much reason to buy a PS3 when I can play Zelda, Smash Bros, Elebits and Warioware on the Wii and Gears of War, Lost Planet, and Oblivian on the 360.

PS3 has very little exclusive title that make me want to buy it. GTA and Oblivian will all be on the 360 and PS3. Also if that rumor about MGS also being on the 360 then I don't see any reason to buy a PS3.

A noble argument.

It all depends on the buyer.

But don't forget PS3 has free online whereas 360 has Live, meaning you have to pay. And perhaps in the future, when HDTV's rule all households, then the PS3 might be the champion.

It's too early to tell, but I believe that the PS3 is going to last.

EDIT: This needs to be a CT thread.

[Chromer]

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Caz, that's what this whole argument is about. People keep saying that Sony possibly losing its franchises dooms it from the beginning. Well, let's look at the 360 shall we?

-Bioshock
-Gears of War
-Dead Rising
-Crackdown
-Lost Planet

All of these are quite original titles developed for Microsoft. GoW and DR have already done well with Bio and the other games on its way. Now did you see Halo 3 anywhere in that list?

You didn't?

That's because the 360 didn't need a preestablished franchise to get sales. The same goes for Sony. A preestablished franchise will BOOST it's power (OVA 9,000!) but it comes down to the future games of the console and how fresh and original they are. Sony has the greatest potential to carry on after 360 and Wii have hit a wall.

[dAnceguy117]

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I would be the Nurse in that one.

The scenario would be different, though. You've just fallen off the other side of the boat. The doctor is identifying to you several severe injuries that may prove to be mortal, and you, the nurse, see nothing wrong.

gg though jewpin lmfao

So what if they aren't exclusive to Sony? That just means you'll get a better looking experience with the PS3. Sony is going to be able to show that a console shouldn't be judged by franchises alone.

Come on, dude. That's not even an argument. Exclusive titles are a huge factor in deciding which console to buy. They may be second only to price, actually. Better graphics are in no way worth forking over an extra $200 or $350.

[cC@Zz]

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The only future original game on the PS3 that interests me at all is lair.

The PS3 needs exclusive original games. Lately it seems like alot of games are on both systems like Oblivian, GTA, F.E.A.R. If most games are on both systems then the price difference will probably make people buy the 360. As long as the PS3 gets good exclusive titles then it shouldbe fine, but I still don't think it will be able to stand a chance in the long run if the sales keeep going the way they are.

[Squeek]

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Jewpy, very funny, but I'm not speaking factually. This is my opinion. I saw trends in their business marketing and formulated a hypothesis, which I posted.

That's how most analysts do their work.

[blitzmage]

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Who wants to clear up and deal with piss and **** anyway.

[Chromer]

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The scenario would be different, though. You've just fallen off the other side of the boat. The doctor is identifying to you several severe injuries that may prove to be mortal, and you, the nurse, see nothing wrong.

gg though jewpin lmfao



Come on, dude. That's not even an argument. Exclusive titles are a huge factor in deciding which console to buy. They may be second only to price, actually. Better graphics are in no way worth forking over an extra $200 or $350.

That sounds stupid but think about it. There are people who want the best quality money can buy. If the PS3 gives that, more power to Sony. Also, you think Sony is going to let their competition put out the same exact game as them? No, Sony is going to include things that make it so that playing the PS3 version is better than the 360 and obviously vice-versa even though the PS3 version of Oblivion has a whole messload of new content. O_o

Exclusivity has a huge factor in powering up the company, not determining its place in the console wars. If that was true, Halo 3 would have been a release title with the 360.

[dAnceguy117]

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Exclusivity has a huge factor in powering up the company, not determining its place in the console wars. If that was true, Halo 3 would have been a release title with the 360.

Have you ever heard of the "Release date: when it's ready" factor? You haven't? Well, that's probably because I just made it up. Well, the title anyway. The concept is definitely for real, though. Had Halo 3 been super-rushed to the release date of the 360, do you know how ****ing pissed all of the rabid Halo fans would be? The game would be terrible, and the 360 would take a HUGE blow.

The rest of your argument makes pretty good sense to me. I'll still take the other side of the argument, though. I know there are those out there who are willing to buy the most expensive things for the highest quality. I just think that there are enough who won't do such so that the Wii and the 360 will have the upper hand over the PS3 in the console wars.

[lord_carbo]

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The problem with Resistance: Fall of Man is Gears of War. C'mon, guys, Gears of War, considerably THE game of the year, for a system $200 cheaper, or a game that isn't as good for a system that's an extra $200? Throw in Halo 3 and anyone who'd want to buy Resistance would be crazy to prefer a PS3 over the 360 just for Resistance.

[Chromer]

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Let's visualize a scenario:

Let's say the fake trailer that Sony showed at E3 about Killzone 2 was in fact true. Do you really think Gears of War and dare I say Halo 3, would even be able to stand up to it? No, not at all. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360; that's a given. However, in order for Microsoft to get a substantial gain in the next-gen wars, they had to release earlier in fear of another Sony onslaught. Now that they are a year ahead, of course Microsoft is happy-go-lucky; they already know the system in-and-out while Sony is now playing catchup. Point is, the PS3 msy look dead now, but in a year's time, I HIGHLY doubt they will be last in the console war.

[Tasuke]

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Sony also has, practically, the entire Japanese RPG force behind it.
That would be quite a large and imprtant factors for some potential buyers.
coughMoogycough

[blitzmage]

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Let's visualize a scenario:

Let's say the fake trailer that Sony showed at E3 about Killzone 2 was in fact true. Do you really think Gears of War and dare I say Halo 3, would even be able to stand up to it? No, not at all.

But it's fake right? so how does this point even make any diffrence if the frailer was fake. PS i never knew you had a time machine to see the future of the games compared. Lend it to me

The PS3 is more powerful than the 360; that's a given.

Doesn't look like it from many screenshots it doesn't seem to be able to handle certian things better then 360.

However, in order for Microsoft to get a substantial gain in the next-gen wars, they had to release earlier in fear of another Sony onslaught.

Groan fanboy speculation.

Now that they are a year ahead, of course Microsoft is happy-go-lucky; they already know the system in-and-out while Sony is now playing catchup. Point is, the PS3 msy look dead now, but in a year's time, I HIGHLY doubt they will be last in the console war.

I don't know it seems like ps3's are being returned and not rebought in Japan and america. There have been alot sighted. Whereas the Wii seems to be selling like hotcakes even with alot more consoles and the xbox360 seems to be keeping the intrest still.


Both of them were designed specially for their own system to show off it's skills. I doubt they are going to only use it to half it's amount when it's supposed to be their "buy me look how great i am" game. Thats rediculous.

[MixMasterLar]

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but it comes down to the future games of the console and how fresh and original they are. Sony has the greatest potential to carry on after 360 and Wii have hit a wall.

All the 360 and Wii have to do is carry on for like a year, and force Sony to drop the Ps. If Sony doesnt make money now then they're gonna give.

I see what your saying: Sony has more life to it and can out last the comp. However, If no one buys it before Microsoft goes stale then we wont see the day. I hope they stick with it, but (to me at least) it looks bad....They need sales so they can feel like they can stay with it. I dont see it happening

Plus keep in mind that most people who'll buy the system are minors:

Minor: I want a Ps3
Perent: Well, your grades are up, you have been feeding the fish etc. etc, I think we can work something out. How much is it
Minor: 700 bucks
Perent: Heck no.

And even if the customer has a job; When I can buy 300 $ less, then I can spend 300 $ more on someone sexier then Sony

[Chromer]

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Blitzmage:

1. The point is that while Killzone might have been fake, there are other games who are looking to achieve that sort of gameplay.

2. When the Xbox 360 first came out, everyone thought they looked like polished -up Xbox graphics. Now look at them.

3. Fanboy speculation? Well slap me around and call me a bitch, but when was the last time you saw a new Xbox game? Is 100 million consoles sold worldwide fanboyism? Didn't think so. =P

Lar:

1. Sony has invested too much money to drop out now. You people also forget that both Microsoft AND Sony are taking a huge risk by promoting their new disc formats: HD-DVD and Blue Ray. While it might not look like it, unless both corporations can sell their formats to the public, they both lose, end of story.

2. No, youth was not targeted by Sony at all. Sony wanted to go after the 18-35 demographic. The only reason kids want it so badly because America is a country full of snot-nosed whiny ass brats who complain to their parents when the oatmeal's too hot. The PS3 is too delicate of a machine to let some 9-year old have. Why do you think most people who camped out for PS3's were buying them for older teens and those who were camping out for Wiis were buying them for younger children? Point right there.

3. I will admit that it was a ****ty move on Sony's part to make it so damn expensive but hey, you gotta make you money back somehow. =P