PS3 is dead (IMO)

[ToshX]

Re: PS3 is dead (IMO)

Well, I want it for both. Not only should I be able to play DVDs and Blu-Ray disks, I should be able to play video games.

Also, as for the price thing, I just said that's pretty much what it is. Fine, say the Blu-Ray costs most of it, and the harddrive is, oh, I dunno, $50, just speaking as if it were. Then that means you'd be getting a LOT of HD for really cheap compared to the PS2.

No matter what, overall, you're getting a whole lot more money worth from your PS3 than you would be from a PS2, and the PS2 did great considering how long it lasted and the diversity of its games. Not as if that money value matters as much as people make it seem, though, because you'll be buying the variety of games that the Playstation always seems to get anyway. You'll WANT to spend money for this because you'll find it so entertaining. I own about 1/4 the amount of Gamecube AND Xbox games COMBINED as I do the PS2, and the PS3 is greater.

[Afrobean]

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No matter what, overall, you're getting a whole lot more money worth from your PS3 than you would be from a PS2, and the PS2 did great considering how long it lasted and the diversity of its games. Not as if that money value matters as much as people make it seem, though, because you'll be buying the variety of games that the Playstation always seems to get anyway. You'll WANT to spend money for this because you'll find it so entertaining. I own about 1/4 the amount of Gamecube AND Xbox games COMBINED as I do the PS2, and the PS3 is greater.

*WHOOSH*

That was the sound of the entire concept of "companies won't want to develop games for PS3 because the PS3 is harder to produce games for and has the least share of the market due to it's higher price" going over your head.

[Squeek]

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Tosh, once again, I ask you.

If there are no good games on the PS3 right now, why is it on the market.

The launch is CRITICAL for a system's health. Xbox360 had a pretty poor launch and, as a result, it isn't doing too well. It has sold anywhere between 7 and 9 million in 13 months. Wii has sold 3.2 million in one month.

By the way Tosh, the Blu-Ray parts cost $100. You're paying $400-$500 for the rest of it. Also, 20GB is not "huge". A lot of the PS3 games require putting some of the information on the hard drive in order to actually make the load times bearable. "Some" is 5GB. Looks like you get four games on that hard drive and no downloadable content. Downloads on the PS3 network are already up to 850+ MB. 20GB is NOTHING.

And finally, I know not to only focus on launch games. But those are all that are out. I am well aware that games get better as the system gets older. Look at DS. When it first game out, the touch screen was pretty stupid and people thought it was just an add-on. Now it's essential to games and it makes it super-fun.

360 sucked at launch (don't even try to disprove that). Now it has Dead Rising, Gears of War, several others with many more games coming out, including their system-seller Halo 3. Now it's doing much better. Simple as that. As developers learn how to use the hardware, the games get better.

So I tell you Tosh, STOP IGNORING THE RELEASE GAMES. They're not supposed to be the best. I get that. So why are Wii titles averaging 8.25? Does that mean that as Wii gets older with PS3, it'll average 9? 10?

Think, man.

[MixMasterLar]

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Holy crap I didnt know that about the PS3 space problem that Squeek pointed out.

Looks like BOTH Tosh and me got owned. There's no way Im getting a PS3 now.

[Squeek]

Re: PS3 is dead (IMO)

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=972819&postcount=215

[MixMasterLar]

Re: PS3 is dead (IMO)

Let's not be hash Squeek, I think you already won

[Biff_tech]

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Yea the discussion is pretty much dead now, good game PS3 you tried hard, and unfortunatly you couldn't cut it.

[dAnceguy117]

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I would have a damn hard time believing that if Sony wasn't the culprit. Wow.

[FRANKKK]

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yeah i have a ps3 and a 360
its weird..for some games the ps3 looks like its on ps2
the 360s much better in my opinion

[ToshX]

Re: PS3 is dead (IMO)

Hmm :/

I may just get a 360 after all. Maybe even a Wii if I learn a lot more about it. That's the thing, I like to know EVERYTHING about the system first. That's why I even partake in these arguments.

[dunlop]

Re: PS3 is dead (IMO)

I wish I had a 360 and/or a PS3. As much as I like the Wii (I do own one), I think that in the end, the Wii just won't have as good of games. My favorite type of game is FPS's, and I just don't think the Wii controller makes the FPS genre better. They still have plenty of time to improve on it, but I don't see the Wii controller making up for the graphics on the other two systems. The Wii is still lots of fun, but for my taste in games, I don't think it will provide a better experience.

[ToshX]

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Here's how I think of things.

FPS games seem to last a long time. Years, even, but they are only moderately fun. Also, I can get too involved in it sometimes :/

RPGs are very fun but only last for a short period of time, hence trying to get into an MMORPG. MMORPGs are too boring and waste the point, though.

RTS, well, bore me. I'm good at them, but they just flat out bore me. This includes Soul Calibur 3.

Fighting-only games like Street Fighter and Soul Calibur 2 are more than moderately fun and last for a decent amount of time. This is like the 50/50 split.

Sports games, well, unless they're Mario games, tend to bore me to death.

Thus, I am split between the three consoles. But 360 is looking good right about now. I have plenty of PS2 RPGs coming my way. Wild Arms 3, FFXII, Tales of the Abyss, etc.

[dunlop]

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Yeah, FPS's and sport games are the only genres that really interest me. The rest tend to bore me aside from a few select games. That's why I think the 360 will be the best choice for me. As long as I get one before Halo 3 comes out, I'll be happy.

[ToshX]

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Don't get me wrong, RPGs are my favorite time of game, they just don't last terribly long. Usually about 100-200 hours max. An FPS can last me over 1,000.

[dunlop]

Re: PS3 is dead (IMO)

Don't get me wrong, RPGs are my favorite time of game, they just don't last terribly long. Usually about 100-200 hours max. An FPS can last me over 1,000.

I know, a lot of people like to hate on Halo and Halo 2, but both games are very very fun still. Even Halo and it doesn't even have online play.

The good thing about them is that every game is different. No matter how many times you play, each game makes you play a different way.