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  • devonin
    Very Grave Indeed
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2004
    • 10120

    #121
    Re: President Bush

    "I have proof, but I'm not allowed to tell you" does not constitute any kind of proof at all. I'm sorry if you thought it did.

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    • OMGfat123
      FFR Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 208

      #122
      Re: President Bush

      All i can say is im glad this is his last year.


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      • trillobyite
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2003
        • 310

        #123
        Re: President Bush

        Originally posted by devonin
        "I have proof, but I'm not allowed to tell you" does not constitute any kind of proof at all. I'm sorry if you thought it did.
        Wait are you talking to me? Or that other guy?
        Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lives here on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.
        http://obs.nineplanets.org/psc/pbd.html

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        • cathergirlhaley
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2006
          • 6

          #124
          Re: President Bush

          um no,not perhaps the smartet but he did make a few afew decent decisions.

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          • cathergirlhaley
            FFR Player
            • Nov 2006
            • 6

            #125
            Re: President Bush

            smartest

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            • devonin
              Very Grave Indeed
              Event Staff
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2004
              • 10120

              #126
              Re: President Bush

              As a note, there is an "edit" function for posts where you can go back and fix such typoes without doubleposting.

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              • ljw5021
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2007
                • 40

                #127
                Re: President Bush

                While I may not agree with everything President Bush does, I support him and the war. Democrats and anti-war fanatics are always talking about "bringing our boys home" (and girls), but they overlook that by not believing in what they are fighting for, it takes all the spirit out of our troops.

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                • devonin
                  Very Grave Indeed
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                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10120

                  #128
                  Re: President Bush

                  If the people at home don't believe in what they are fighting for, perhaps that should suggest that they ought not to be fighting for it...

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                  • ljw5021
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 40

                    #129
                    Re: President Bush

                    Originally posted by devonin
                    If the people at home don't believe in what they are fighting for, perhaps that should suggest that they ought not to be fighting for it...
                    The people have no say now. The people elected George W. Bush President of the United States of America in 2000 and in 2004. When you elect someone, they're not going to run everything by the common population. They're going to make decisions with the power you gave them.

                    The people of the United States have no one to blame but themselves if they disagree with Bush's actions.

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                    • devonin
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 10120

                      #130
                      Re: President Bush

                      A president who is in their second term has no business just disregarding what their public wants simply because they aren't able to put themselves up for re-election. Their duty is to serve the will of the people. When less than 30% of your country approves of what you're doing, saying "Well screw them, they voted me in!" doesn't make a democratic president, it makes a tyrannical dictator.

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                      • ljw5021
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 40

                        #131
                        Re: President Bush

                        Originally posted by devonin
                        A president who is in their second term has no business just disregarding what their public wants simply because they aren't able to put themselves up for re-election. Their duty is to serve the will of the people. When less than 30% of your country approves of what you're doing, saying "Well screw them, they voted me in!" doesn't make a democratic president, it makes a tyrannical dictator.
                        The people have the power in the sense that they elect who they want. Could you imagine how slowly the government would respond to things if they needed the majority of America agreeing with them first? You have to take the approval rating with a grain of salt. I'm willing to bet between 50-55% of the United States has an IQ lower than 115, which I don't approve of when looking for opinions.

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                        • devonin
                          Very Grave Indeed
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 10120

                          #132
                          Re: President Bush

                          So you're prepared to just dictate standards for who -counts- when it comes to having a valid opinion? That strikes me as more than a little problematic.

                          Further, there is a difference between "You must seek a majority population vote for each and every polocy decision" and "When a very large percentage of your country is actively telling you that they disapprove of what you are doing, maybe you ought to consider not doing it."

                          Your statement here seems to simply not account for an elected leader taking things in a direction that the people no longer approve of. If you elect someone because they are in favour of a policy you support, if they suddenly also advocate for a policy you find extremely problematic, you honestly feel that the -right- answer to that is "Suck it up, you voted for them"?

                          When your term is 4 years long, what happens when 2 years in, the person you elected suddenly starts acting in a way you simply do not support? You shrug and say oops?

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                          • ljw5021
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 40

                            #133
                            Re: President Bush

                            Originally posted by devonin
                            So you're prepared to just dictate standards for who -counts- when it comes to having a valid opinion? That strikes me as more than a little problematic.

                            Further, there is a difference between "You must seek a majority population vote for each and every polocy decision" and "When a very large percentage of your country is actively telling you that they disapprove of what you are doing, maybe you ought to consider not doing it."

                            Your statement here seems to simply not account for an elected leader taking things in a direction that the people no longer approve of. If you elect someone because they are in favour of a policy you support, if they suddenly also advocate for a policy you find extremely problematic, you honestly feel that the -right- answer to that is "Suck it up, you voted for them"?

                            When your term is 4 years long, what happens when 2 years in, the person you elected suddenly starts acting in a way you simply do not support? You shrug and say oops?
                            Basically. What, in your ideal world, would happen? Tell me, because I'd really like to know how someone would realistically resolve this a year and a half before the next election.

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                            • Necrophage
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2005
                              • 25

                              #134
                              Re: President Bush

                              Originally posted by ljw5021
                              The people have the power in the sense that they elect who they want. Could you imagine how slowly the government would respond to things if they needed the majority of America agreeing with them first? You have to take the approval rating with a grain of salt. I'm willing to bet between 50-55% of the United States has an IQ lower than 115, which I don't approve of when looking for opinions.
                              What, and people who are just a little on the slow side cannot grasp the concept of right and wrong? Even a person with severe mental handicaps can distinguish between right and wrong, I'm sure. So, someone with an Iq of 115 can surely say 'Hey, I don't agree with that.' Like...the war in Iraq, mayhaps?
                              Yeah, I'm sure there are many patriots out there rooting for our troops. Good for you, and good for them. I believe in standing up for what you believe in and if they believe its right then go them. Personally...I think the monkey in office is just trying to finish what his daddy couldn't.

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                              • MilfeulleSakuraba
                                Ryoko Shintani is #1!
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 403

                                #135
                                Re: President Bush

                                Originally posted by ljw5021
                                The people have the power in the sense that they elect who they want. Could you imagine how slowly the government would respond to things if they needed the majority of America agreeing with them first? You have to take the approval rating with a grain of salt. I'm willing to bet between 50-55% of the United States has an IQ lower than 115, which I don't approve of when looking for opinions.
                                Then theoretically you should be worried that Bush was chosen in the first place.

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