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  • ljw5021
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 40

    #136
    Re: President Bush

    Originally posted by Necrophage
    What, and people who are just a little on the slow side cannot grasp the concept of right and wrong? Even a person with severe mental handicaps can distinguish between right and wrong, I'm sure. So, someone with an Iq of 115 can surely say 'Hey, I don't agree with that.' Like...the war in Iraq, mayhaps?
    Yeah, I'm sure there are many patriots out there rooting for our troops. Good for you, and good for them. I believe in standing up for what you believe in and if they believe its right then go them. Personally...I think the monkey in office is just trying to finish what his daddy couldn't.
    No actually he's trying to finish what Clinton started. Clinton sent over a cruise missile or two after the bombings in the WTC and said "eh, better not do that again". Well guess what, they did it again on 9/11, and it was plopped on Bush's lap. Clinton's problem, Bush's resolution. If you don't like it, blame Clinton and yourselves.

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    • ljw5021
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 40

      #137
      Re: President Bush

      Originally posted by MilfeulleSakuraba
      Then theoretically you should be worried that Bush was chosen in the first place.
      Why is that? Bush has an IQ of somewhere around 130, while Kerry is just a bit lower.

      Don't tell me you believed that hoax that said his IQ was 91! I thought you had a bit more sense than that. That was debunked.

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      • MilfeulleSakuraba
        Ryoko Shintani is #1!
        • Feb 2006
        • 403

        #138
        Re: President Bush

        Originally posted by ljw5021
        Why is that? Bush has an IQ of somewhere around 130, while Kerry is just a bit lower.

        Don't tell me you believed that hoax that said his IQ was 91! I thought you had a bit more sense than that. That was debunked.
        No.

        You said you're "willing to bet between 50-55% of the United States has an IQ lower than 115, which [you] don't approve of when looking for opinions." Bush was elected by the citizens of the United States, over half of whom, by your claim, have IQs under 115 and thus have opinions you don't consider worthwhile. Aren't you then worried that they made the wrong choice?

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        • jewpinthethird
          (The Fat's Sabobah)
          FFR Music Producer
          • Nov 2002
          • 11711

          #139
          Re: President Bush

          Originally posted by ljw5021
          No actually he's trying to finish what Clinton started. Clinton sent over a cruise missile or two after the bombings in the WTC and said "eh, better not do that again". Well guess what, they did it again on 9/11, and it was plopped on Bush's lap. Clinton's problem, Bush's resolution. If you don't like it, blame Clinton and yourselves.
          BUT, Clinton was elected. So, therefore, you have to suck it up and accept his mistake...since it is also your mistake. I mean, going by your logic.

          The people elected George W. Bush President of the United States of America in 2000 and in 2004.
          You are only half right. Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000. Al Gore was elected by the people, not George W. Bush.

          With your kind of patriotism, the United States would still be under British rule. If you want to live under a dictator, move to Iran.

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          • marxandlennon
            FFR Player
            • May 2007
            • 15

            #140
            Re: President Bush

            Originally posted by ljw5021
            No actually he's trying to finish what Clinton started. Clinton sent over a cruise missile or two after the bombings in the WTC and said "eh, better not do that again". Well guess what, they did it again on 9/11, and it was plopped on Bush's lap. Clinton's problem, Bush's resolution. If you don't like it, blame Clinton and yourselves.
            Actually, the whole "saddam pulled off 9-11" thing was disproven a loooooong time ago.
            "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."
            - Frank Lloyd Wright

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            • ljw5021
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2007
              • 40

              #141
              Re: President Bush

              Originally posted by marxandlennon
              Actually, the whole "saddam pulled off 9-11" thing was disproven a loooooong time ago.
              Who said Saddam pulled off 9/11?

              I'm talking about the relationship between the first WTC bombings and the attacks of 9/11. Iraq is just so that the terrorists don't have access to the huge money pot that is oil.

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              • ljw5021
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2007
                • 40

                #142
                Re: President Bush

                Originally posted by jewpinthethird
                BUT, Clinton was elected. So, therefore, you have to suck it up and accept his mistake...since it is also your mistake. I mean, going by your logic.



                You are only half right. Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000. Al Gore was elected by the people, not George W. Bush.

                With your kind of patriotism, the United States would still be under British rule. If you want to live under a dictator, move to Iran.
                I didn't vote, since I wasn't 18 at the time of Clinton's elections. Therefore, I can neither complain or be held responsible.

                That's just too bad, since Bush won the electoral vote.

                So because I'm not an ignoramus, then I'd be responsible for the overturn of the Revolutionary War. Great logic.

                What is all this with dictators? I'm saying a democracy is run by leaders elected by the people. The people have the power in the election, the leader has the power in the office. What don't you people get about that? Am I the only sane person on these forums?

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                • marxandlennon
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 15

                  #143
                  Re: President Bush

                  Originally posted by ljw5021
                  Who said Saddam pulled off 9/11?

                  I'm talking about the relationship between the first WTC bombings and the attacks of 9/11. Iraq is just so that the terrorists don't have access to the huge money pot that is oil.
                  Oh, I thought that's what you were talking about in your post earlier...my bad, i misinterpreted it.
                  "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."
                  - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                  • jewpinthethird
                    (The Fat's Sabobah)
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 11711

                    #144
                    Re: President Bush

                    Originally posted by ljw5021
                    I didn't vote, since I wasn't 18 at the time of Clinton's elections. Therefore, I can neither complain or be held responsible.

                    That's just too bad, since Bush won the electoral vote.

                    So because I'm not an ignoramus, then I'd be responsible for the overturn of the Revolutionary War. Great logic.

                    What is all this with dictators? I'm saying a democracy is run by leaders elected by the people. The people have the power in the election, the leader has the power in the office. What don't you people get about that? Am I the only sane person on these forums?
                    We don't elect a King for four years, we elect a president. The supreme power in a republic lies in the people and the president. Presidents can be impeached and are not infallible. A true representative would actually represent the will of the people, not enforce his will upon the people. Democracy, the people rule, it's in the name.

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                    • devonin
                      Very Grave Indeed
                      Event Staff
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 10120

                      #145
                      Re: President Bush

                      Originally posted by ljw5021
                      I'm talking about the relationship between the first WTC bombings and the attacks of 9/11. Iraq is just so that the terrorists don't have access to the huge money pot that is oil.
                      So it is your opinion then, that Iraq is funding Al-Qaeda? Rigidly secular Iraq is funding fanatically religious Al-Qaeda?
                      Originally posted by ljw5021
                      Who said Saddam pulled off 9/11?
                      Um...President Bush, for one.

                      Originally posted by President Bush, Oct 7 2002
                      [Iraq and Al-Qaeda] had high-level contacts that go back a decade.
                      In in another speech:
                      You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror.
                      In another speech that year in Cincinatti:
                      We learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making, and poisons and deadly gases
                      I could go on...in fact, lets.
                      Originally posted by Dick Cheney on 'Meet the Press'
                      [it is] pretty well confirmed that Mohammad Arra, 9/11's lead hijacker did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.
                      Or again on a seperate visit to that show:
                      Originally posted by Dick Cheney on the invasion of Iraq
                      We will have struck a major blow right in the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11
                      So um...the government made -many- and -blatant- connections between Iraq, al Qaeda and 9/11, which considering that the attack was carried off by Egyptians and Saudi Arabians, and Saddam has been on record repeatedly expressing complete and utter disagreement with the methods and ideology of Osama and al Qaeda, seems a bit of a stretch to me.

                      In fact, as soon as the connections between al Qaeda and Iraq were shot down by the world intelligence community (Most namely the British, the prime member of the 'coalition of the willing' no less) the American Government began a) denying that they said there was a concrete proven connection, and b) started saying that instead, it was all about nuclear weapons in Iraq.

                      I'm happy to provide quotes from plenty of documentation on the subject of the WMDs and Iraq if you'd like to argue that they did or were even trying to have such weapons.

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                      • jewpinthethird
                        (The Fat's Sabobah)
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 11711

                        #146
                        Re: President Bush

                        But just because they didn't find WMDs doesn't mean they weren't there? M I RITE? They probably snuck the WMDs across the border into Iran. I say we go start a war with Iran...and anyone else who wants to take the US on.

                        WE ARE INVINCIBLE ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA.

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                        • shatteredgravity
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 95

                          #147
                          Re: President Bush

                          honestly, i liked president bush when he first came in. now hes just doing no good for us. for petes sake, get the poor soliders out of there! theyre only dying more and more everyday and killing more and more and doing no good. if the people come and blow us up, maybe we deserve it, i dont know. the world seems like it might as well end. its only becoming worse and worse. president bush is just not doing the hottest of jobs now, but as sure as hell - the two running for office now are gonna be worse.

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                          • jewpinthethird
                            (The Fat's Sabobah)
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 11711

                            #148
                            Re: President Bush

                            Originally posted by shatteredgravity
                            for petes sake, get the poor soliders out of there! theyre only dying more and more everyday and killing more and more and doing no good.
                            No offense to any of our armed service men, but that's what they signed up for. As a soldier, it is their duty to fight for their country, and die for their country if necessary. They are trained to kill. Likewise, the other side is trained to kill. People die, it's called war.

                            It's the dozens, upon dozens, of innocent people that are getting caught up in the crossfire, tortured and killed everyday that I am against. You didn't have mangled bodies showing up in the streets of Baghdad every morning when Sadam was in-charge.

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                            • jewpinthethird
                              (The Fat's Sabobah)
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 11711

                              #149
                              Re: President Bush

                              Just for kicks:

                              Bush is my shepherd; I dwell in want. He maketh logs to be cut down in national forests. He leadeth trucks into the still wilderness. He restoreth my fears. He leadeth me in the paths of international disgrace for his ego's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of pollution and war, I will find no exit, for thou art in office. Thy tax cuts for the rich and thy media control, they discomfort me. Thou preparest an agenda of deception in the presence of thy religion. Thou anointest my head with foreign oil. My health insurance runneth out. Surely megalomania and false patriotism shall follow me all the days of thy term, And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever.

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                              • Necrophage
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2005
                                • 25

                                #150
                                Re: President Bush

                                O.o

                                Lmfao.

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