Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

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  • FFR4EVA_00
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 1770

    #16
    Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

    Don't mess with infinity.
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    • RandomPscho
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2006
      • 504

      #17
      Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

      But isn't 1^x always 1?

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      • Tokzic
        FFR Player
        • May 2005
        • 6878

        #18
        Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

        Originally posted by Shashakiro
        TI-89 is wrong if it says that
        what

        It doesn't matter how many times you multiply one by one, you'll still get one. At no point in the number line does 1^x go OH HEY I'M GOING TO DEVIATE AND BE SIXTY THREE

        Same with zero.

        ur rong

        Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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        • Specforces
          Yes
          • Jan 2004
          • 5028

          #19
          Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

          Yes, I'm using the actual infinity key, and I thought so RandomPscho.

          As long as X is greater than or equal to 0 that should be the case.
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          • Tokzic
            FFR Player
            • May 2005
            • 6878

            #20
            Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

            Originally posted by Specforces
            Yes, I'm using the actual infinity key, and I thought so RandomPscho.

            As long as X is greater than or equal to 0 that should be the case.
            what

            1^(-2000)
            =1/(1^2000)
            =1/1
            =1

            no pretty sure it's any number

            Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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            • Specforces
              Yes
              • Jan 2004
              • 5028

              #21
              Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

              Wait, yeah, you're right. I wasn't thinking in terms of one.

              I've been frying my brain with Calc, Chem, and Physics lately.
              Last edited by Specforces; 12-4-2006, 02:02 PM.
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              • itmorr
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                • Jun 2006
                • 1498

                #22
                Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                Sorry didn't have time to proofread that last post. Also, isn't infinite - infinite = - infinite?




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                • talisman
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                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2003
                  • 4598

                  #23
                  Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE



                  wiki says one to the infinity is undef.

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                  • Squeek
                    let it snow~
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 14444

                    #24
                    Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                    If you argue that infinity is multipliable and divisible, then you also profess to say that 0.999... repeating infinitely is not equal to one mathematically.

                    We've had two threads on infinity in math and they're contradicting each other unless you say it's undefined.

                    Infinity is not a number. Multiplication is defined as "The product of two numbers". Division is defined as "The quotient of two numbers."

                    I don't see how you can put infinity into these statements and expect a result other than "undefined".

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                    • Tokzic
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2005
                      • 6878

                      #25
                      Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                      well apparantly wiki's retarded

                      I don't see a reason listed anywhere.

                      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                      • Shashakiro
                        TWO THOUZAND COMBO
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 9082

                        #26
                        Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                        Originally posted by Tokzic
                        well apparantly wiki's retarded

                        I don't see a reason listed anywhere.
                        Oh, the weirdness of infinity. So many people don't understand it properly at all, because they try to think of it intuitively--and nothing about mathematical infinity is intuitive.

                        See, the reason 1^inf is undefined is beacause of these rules:

                        1^anything = 1
                        Anything^inf = inf

                        When those rules are put together in 1^inf, there is no proper answer (besides 'undefined") because you cannot follow both rules in that case, even though both must be followed whenever they can be.

                        Just because it makes no intuitive sense doesn't mean it's not true. Trying to think of it as multiplying a lot of 1's together won't get you the right answer, because you can never physically multiply an infinity of 1's together.

                        Also, itmorr: inf - inf is definitely undefined.
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                        • talisman
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • May 2003
                          • 4598

                          #27
                          Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                          well, squeek, you can multiply and add with infinity, only certain times. I remember vaguely doing all this with limits and **** at the beginning of calculus, but that was three years ago.

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                          • Squeek
                            let it snow~
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 14444

                            #28
                            Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                            You can approach infinity and your limit can equal infinity, but you can't really use it for arithmetic.

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                            • talisman
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                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2003
                              • 4598

                              #29
                              Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                              yes, you can. e.g. x + infinity = infinity

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                              • Shashakiro
                                TWO THOUZAND COMBO
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 9082

                                #30
                                Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                                You can use infinity for arithmetic, but any operation do involving it will either be infinity, zero, or undefined.
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                                Originally posted by Boogiebear
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