Does death scare anybody else?

[TIMEDISORT]

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They say when you're about to die you see a light at the end of the tunnel. A freakin' light. Why can't there be a hot girl or somthin?

[FluorescentArmy]

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Ok, first of all, I'm personally not scared of death:

1. Everyone dies in their physical state.
2. No one knows what's beyond death and we'll never know if we never die.
3. If there is no heaven, hell, or eternity, we will stop existing. You wont think,
hear, see, anything. It's an impossible situation to describe but with
nothingness. And black is something. A certainly boring something. But
it is still something.

Life After Death:

1. I believe in it personally:

a. My house. There are no children under 10 in my house. Yet, you can hear
a rocking chair sqeaking, which there is no rocking chair, and a baby
crying. Only happens at night. Annoying as ****. But, when my house
was moved, (We have the pictures of it across the street), a child was
killed, in my brother room when the roof collapsed on the rocking chair.
We found this in the old newspapers. They fixed the roof, and every
once in a while you'll hear it at like 2AM. I was in my room when I didn't
have a door and their room is right across from mine. I heard it and went
to sleep. Scariest thing ever happened to me.

2. Ouiji board story.

Ok, I am at my friends house. Down in his basement. Hey! We find an Ouiji
board. We start messing with it. His cousins come down. They start playing with it and we go upstairs. They are down there for a while. Talking. To what we dont quite know. They come up later looking freaked. We lock them in their room for a joke. We go into our room and sleep. The door was still locked when we got up, and we let them out. We got breakfast and then went down to the basement. Ouiji board gone. WTF? Then we ask the cousins, "WTF?, What did you do with it." They said they left it on the coffee table. But they said that something told them to take it to the cemetary about a mile down the road. They also said that it said that "Specters fill the sky or some stuff." We thought it was BS. So to get to my house you go through to cemetary. We're going. We get the idea to check the tombstone.
Had some dates and the thingy scratched into it. And there sits the ouiji board on his grave.

1. We got tricked and they jumped out a 2nd story window
2. Life exists after death.

[Yanah_God]

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The thing about me is that I can't think in a nonlogical way. Everything has to be logical to me, or it doesn't exist. I've thought about life after death numerous times, and each time I've reasoned that there are many reasons which it can't exist. I'm not going to explain them, since my skill with words would just once again make me end up looking like an idiot, but they're good reasons.

Just so I don't sound biased toward science, I also think most of that is bull****. I think most of the formulae are lousy half-assed shortcuts to explain the real way things work. I believe the way things actually work is a lot less complicated, but it works in ways we haven't thought to test yet. I think about gravity, for example, not as "the natural force of attraction exerted by a celestial body, such as Earth, upon objects at or near its surface, tending to draw them toward the center of the body" with its corresponding numbers and formulae, but as a simple concept we have yet to discover.

But I'm sort of offtopic, and starting to sound stupid. My point is, from my point of view, life after death is illogical, and therefore impossible.

And if you knew that there was a kid that got killed in a rocking chair, and you heard a squeaking noise at night, that's what you associate it with. It's probably just the woodwork or something. Best way to find out is to investigate it.

[-Izzy-]

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Why? Probably because I can't imagine either of them. I mean, when I try to imagine nothing I just close my eyes and see black and somewhere in my head I think "k, that's nothing, just black." But nothing wouldn't even be that. It'd be...NOTHING. I can't imagine just not even existing anymore. It scares me the most.

I think about this all the time. Its pretty depressing but whatever. Its really hard to try and comprehend how nothing would be. You wouldnt be thinking. After you die i guess you really wouldnt care. You wouldnt know your dead. You wouldnt have known you really died.

[Reach]

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The thing about me is that I can't think in a nonlogical way. Everything has to be logical to me, or it doesn't exist. I've thought about life after death numerous times, and each time I've reasoned that there are many reasons which it can't exist. I'm not going to explain them, since my skill with words would just once again make me end up looking like an idiot, but they're good reasons.

Just so I don't sound biased toward science, I also think most of that is bull****. I think most of the formulae are lousy half-assed shortcuts to explain the real way things work. I believe the way things actually work is a lot less complicated, but it works in ways we haven't thought to test yet. I think about gravity, for example, not as "the natural force of attraction exerted by a celestial body, such as Earth, upon objects at or near its surface, tending to draw them toward the center of the body" with its corresponding numbers and formulae, but as a simple concept we have yet to discover.

But I'm sort of offtopic, and starting to sound stupid. My point is, from my point of view, life after death is illogical, and therefore impossible.

And if you knew that there was a kid that got killed in a rocking chair, and you heard a squeaking noise at night, that's what you associate it with. It's probably just the woodwork or something. Best way to find out is to investigate it.

Well life after death is illogical. It is unlikely, as it relies on the foundation of the supernatural. Everything we know about how the brain works tells us the end is really the end, but that doesn't mean people can't believe. I mean, the thought of our reality being erased is kind of scary.

You think most of science is bull****? How so? I mean, reality is only what we construct it around. The foundation of science and knowledge is built upon everything we are able to understand.

And actually, gravity is fairly complex. It's just as simple as that XD The universe itself is complex to us. It's not just an attraction, it's a consequnce of the pliable region which we are contained in; space time. Energy or mass within space bends it. Gravity exists because of objects bending space time. The bending of space time is not exactly a simple concept.

I suppose you can mention the theory of everything, but that theory would be so complex in it's simplicity it'll be a miracle if we ever actually figure it out XD

If it wasn't for the complexity of science we would not be at where we stand now as a civilization!

[Yanah_God]

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Sorry for being offtopic here, but I honestly don't believe in space-time. Time's not really much of a dimension, it's more like the rate at which energy effects an object, or something like that. But w/e.

When you die, you probably just stop existing. It really wouldn't matter to you, since you wouldn't think about it. I like the comparison to sleep. I like to hope, at least, that when you die... ****, I can't word this without sounding like something I don't mean. =\

[drummerlsu]

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On occcasion this topic has left me restless for hours. By far the most frightening aspect of death is the possibility of a "negavite afterlife". Sure it may be unlikely. Personally, my thoughts on afterlife possibilities will likely never be fully developed. But the fear still exists. Religious beliefs aside, I fear the possibility of an ultimate evil figure having the ability to take complete control over me/everyone for eternity ("hell").

Here are some of the things that would be pretty nasty:

- Being stuffed into a small box for eternity (like in Kill Bill 2 except there is no death or getting out). Imagine even your first year in there. Hopelessness. And after a year you know you have a million more and you're still not any closer to getting out of there. And that doesn't even account for possibilities of pain. Imagine the box scenario, but add exceptionally bad pain in a different random body part each day. Or every body part every day.

- Having the people you love and care about (or copies or doubles of them that look/act like them) involved. Put them in a room and make you watch them from another room so that you can see/hear them but they can't see/hear you. Now put a double of YOU in the room with your family/friends and have your double say mean and hateful things to them for an extended period. Variant: have the doubles of your family interact with you, except have them hate you uncontrolably, with all other parts of their personalities/memories being normal.

If I could play a gambling game in which you have a .000000001 chance of either of the above things happening, but a .99999999 chance of winning $50 billion, I wouldn't do it.

[mattyohh]

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I think that killing then bringing the person back to life seems like a good idea. Also you then have problem of finding someone willing to sign up for it.

[Reach]

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Sorry for being offtopic here, but I honestly don't believe in space-time. Time's not really much of a dimension, it's more like the rate at which energy effects an object, or something like that. But w/e.

When you die, you probably just stop existing. It really wouldn't matter to you, since you wouldn't think about it. I like the comparison to sleep. I like to hope, at least, that when you die... ****, I can't word this without sounding like something I don't mean. =\

You don't believe in space time? What the ****. LMAO

Well then I mean, I guess there is no space and events don't pass within it. >_<!!!!!!!!!

All dimensions are dependant on time. Time is not a dimension, but the other 3 dimensions would not exist without time and thus all space exists within time. Meaning, as part of the math, it is a dimension, but it isn't a spatial dimension.


And I suppose death is like being put to sleep and never waking up. But you can experience being put to sleep. You come out of it, it is an experience. Death just isn't something you can experience, making it pretty unique.

[Benny1]

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Death used to scare me a lot, but then, I thought, well, were you there before being born?

Death is, essentially the same thing as before you were born, unless there is an afterlife. Assuming there is no afterlife, it should be like not being alive. Were you terrified ever because of what you felt before you were born? You don't remember it, and you know what? It's the exact same as being dead.

It's not like being in a pitch black, because you cannot see black, you cannot see anything. That is what scared me the most, because a human being cannot imagine seeing,well, nothing. seeing black ISN'T seeing nothing. Seeing nothing is something we just can't imagine, so it scares people. I've basically gotten over the fear though, so it is no problem as of now.

PS: For those of you who fear people you love dying, I've had 3 great grandparents ,a very close friend of the family, and an uncle die. I dunno, this will sound very very cruel and mean, but it doesn't scare me as much anymore, and I'm not as worried, and it sucks, because my grandma is most likely going to die soon.

[Yanah_God]

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Drummer, you're pretty pessimistic. Don't dwell on those things, rofl.

Reach, I didn't say I don't think time exists, I just mean that I don't believe it's a dimension, but only a property of the energy, like gravity is for matter.

kk?

[Reach]

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You said, and anyone could quote you on it, that you dont' believe in space-time. Get your message straight, kk? If space exists, and time exists, you believe in space-time. It is all around you.

But in that case, you don't have to believe any longer, because time is not spatial dimension.

[trillobyite]

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Doesn't scare me in the least bit. If there is a hell, under my religion I will not be there for eternity but I might spend some time in there. If there is no hell and we just stop existing, then I won't *feel* myself not existing or be able to consciously get terrified at the concept of not being alive, because there will be no thought and that would simply be the end. Eventually someone will get born, and that person will experience life first-hand. It's not reincarnation, but a cycle in which *someone* will get born and in essence, that someone is every single person not alive.

[xDdRmAnIaCx]

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When I am thinking about it, it scares the hell out of me.

[Kinjiro]

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Think about if there is an afterlife, in the bilbical sense. Existing for ETERNITY. FOREVER. How strange would that be, knowing that you would exist forever. But think about it. Everything we do is based on the fact that nothing happens forever. Does that mean if we have a new existance in this so called afterlife, we will eventually have to die there too? So will we forever be trapped in a cycle of living and dying. But won't then this cycle have to be broken, because nothing can exist forever? Could this mean we could be stuck in an infinite amount of existences, but these are also part of an infinite yet terminating part of another larger existence? I know these terms are contradictory, but it boggles the mind thinking about the obscene and incomprehensible repeating cycle of existences. But then also, will these existences be different so it becomes impossible to ever comprehend the meaning of life? These are the questions that I developed while contemplating death, which i end up doing a lot because i am an insomniac, giving me lots of time to do nothing. This might make my questions invalid, but thinking about them in a non-exhausted state gets me to the same place.