Does death scare anybody else?

[Kinjiro]

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sorry about the spelling and probably grammar and noted lack of sig...

[JurseyRider734]

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I don't believe in people who say they aren't afraid of death.

I think if you're afraid of anything (spiders, clowns, etc) you must be afraid of death. Why are people afraid of those things? Because they think that [whatever they're afraid of] is going to kill them. Killing = death. See my connection? I'm scared of spiders because I think if one bites me i'll die. People who are afraid of spiders for other reasons have no reason to fear them--they're just being stupid.

[Neonatrias]

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Think about if there is an afterlife, in the bilbical sense. Existing for ETERNITY. FOREVER. How strange would that be, knowing that you would exist forever. But think about it. Everything we do is based on the fact that nothing happens forever. Does that mean if we have a new existance in this so called afterlife, we will eventually have to die there too? So will we forever be trapped in a cycle of living and dying. But won't then this cycle have to be broken, because nothing can exist forever? Could this mean we could be stuck in an infinite amount of existences, but these are also part of an infinite yet terminating part of another larger existence? I know these terms are contradictory, but it boggles the mind thinking about the obscene and incomprehensible repeating cycle of existences. But then also, will these existences be different so it becomes impossible to ever comprehend the meaning of life? These are the questions that I developed while contemplating death, which i end up doing a lot because i am an insomniac, giving me lots of time to do nothing. This might make my questions invalid, but thinking about them in a non-exhausted state gets me to the same place.

You did raise a few good points throughout that. I'd like to specifically address the first one.

Eternity is like the "time" version of the concept of infinity. It's impossible to comprehend, yet people continue to try. It's the one thing, I think, which mankind will never figure out. Infinity, when you think about it, is the missing link to most things which we don't understand: God, the universe's expanses, death, eternity...

But I'm getting off my point. We may not understand eternity, but people try to do so quite often whenever they discuss the topic of death. It's because of that unreasonable fear of the unknown that death is as disturbing a thought for some as it is. At least, I think. My English teacher gave this story as an example of "eternity" and how it can't be comprehended...

Assume Hitler went before God at the end of his life. He had a choice. He could either suffer 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 years of pain for each Jew he killed and afterwards be let into Heaven, or go directly to Hell. Now, 6 million times that number is huge. But, as long as that is, Hell is still longer. It never ends.

I'm not saying that Heaven or Hell does or does not exist, but you see why the idea of infinity is probably impossible to understand entirely, I hope.

[scorpio1690]

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I'm sorry but "death" itself doesn't scare me. It's getting there, the pain and suffering part, assuming that's how you go of course. My biggest fear about the whole thing is my regrets of not telling people how I really feel about them. It's like leaving the most important thing you could ever possibly do incomplete.

I've had dreams where I die, execution by gun point, and I'm not so much worried about dying, I just feel horrible because I know that I'll never get to see the people that I care for and tell them how I truly feel about them. So I guess in one sense I am scared of death, but I am not scared of the unknown or [i]afterlife[/u].

[TheEvilHobo]

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what if there was just never anything to begin with. no universe or big bang or anything before that or before that. Just nothing at all ever. Nothing. Thats something I imagine.

[terence1357]

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I get the feeling that I'm the only person that is as scared as death as much as I am. Well, not so much death as what comes afterwards. Basically, 2 things could happen. Either we go on living forever (heaven, hell, reincarnation, whatever) or we die and are dead and there's nothing. The problem for me is not the uncertainty of whether it will be eternity or completely nothing, but the fact that both of those outcomes scare me ****less.

Why? Probably because I can't imagine either of them. I mean, when I try to imagine nothing I just close my eyes and see black and somewhere in my head I think "k, that's nothing, just black." But nothing wouldn't even be that. It'd be...NOTHING. I can't imagine just not even existing anymore. It scares me the most.

Eternity though, that still scares me. Most people hear eternity and think "oh gee that'd be nice" but who actually sits and tries to think about it? Maybe I'm just weird but the thought of living forever and never stopping scares me. I mean, it seems like the thing to do, but there never being an end to my life is just weird. It seems like it should end but I don't want it to.

Mostly, I just wanna know if there's anybody else who thinks like I do. Is anybody else scared of eternity and nothingness?

I have those exact thoughts.
And in the bible it says that in heaven all you do is praise God.
*scratchs turn table*
WTF
Years and years of praise praise praise?!
I'm not sure if I like that. It's already been over 2000 years. And they've been doing it.
But I'm not sure.
But the thought of nothingness scares me.
You are nothing.
You are nowhere.
You can't see anything.
GAH!
And the bible says that hell is so bad, the devil doesn't even want to be there.

So for me,
I'm screwed each road I take.

[Snapps]

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If it was eternity, I wouldn't be scared. Like EB says, if you stop and think hard about it, the fact itself being FOREVER is ****ing scary.

[SethSquall]

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Death scares me alot. Id like to be one of those people who say live every day as its your last, but im not. Not by a long shot. I dont want to even think the next day being my last. I just shudder at the fact that your gone, no thinking, you dont know your dead, your just dead. Not coming back. Its freaks me out. Just the pure nothingness.

[Kuzya]

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Well I have full belief in life being after death.
What about psychics? Mediums providing a voice box for your and someone who past?, And the people who like to stand in your doorway...
Have you ever walked around and you just felt like someone is behind you...it wasn't a strong feeling but you knew eyes were just back there...
TADA!!!! you've found your guardian angels.
Don't get me wrong alot of people think guardians angels are other people who've passed on, but the truth is that they're a different phylum. It's like how a cat is seperate from a dog.
Guardian angels will protect you FOREVER...that means (and I don't mean to make them property in a demeaning way.)they are YOURS. Just the same way your mother is only YOUR mother.
I don't mean to squash anyone's beliefs here but the devil doesn't really exist, simply positive and negative energy.
That's why throwing a item that's absorbed negative energy from the past will make your house more...positive.
and uh....No I'm not scared of death. At all! I just want to accomplish more before I die and I don't want to leave my family either...
and reminding me someone said you wouldn't be able to talk to your family. That's not true you'll be able to leave your family messages such as
sending butterflies, turning things around, flipping lights on and off, moving chairs, rocking chairs, making smells, (Cooking, perfume etc) and you can even send items you meant to send them before.
When you die you'll have to go through some kindve tunnel or window or even your casket so make sure you go through or you'll be stuck.
That's as much as I can say right now

[Neonatrias]

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Well I have full belief in life being after death.
What about psychics? Mediums providing a voice box for your and someone who past?, And the people who like to stand in your doorway...
Have you ever walked around and you just felt like someone is behind you...it wasn't a strong feeling but you knew eyes were just back there...
TADA!!!! you've found your guardian angels.
Don't get me wrong alot of people think guardians angels are other people who've passed on, but the truth is that they're a different phylum. It's like how a cat is seperate from a dog.
Guardian angels will protect you FOREVER...that means (and I don't mean to make them property in a demeaning way.)they are YOURS. Just the same way your mother is only YOUR mother.
I don't mean to squash anyone's beliefs here but the devil doesn't really exist, simply positive and negative energy.
That's why throwing a item that's absorbed negative energy from the past will make your house more...positive.
and uh....No I'm not scared of death. At all! I just want to accomplish more before I die and I don't want to leave my family either...
and reminding me someone said you wouldn't be able to talk to your family. That's not true you'll be able to leave your family messages such as
sending butterflies, turning things around, flipping lights on and off, moving chairs, rocking chairs, making smells, (Cooking, perfume etc) and you can even send items you meant to send them before.
When you die you'll have to go through some kindve tunnel or window or even your casket so make sure you go through or you'll be stuck.
That's as much as I can say right now

You hold a lot of the ideas that I do. At least, it seems that way. While I'm sure the intelligent post is appreciated, you do assume quite a bit here. You can't be factually sure of most of the things you outlined there, and I know there are at least several people on this board who will disagree with you. Lights coming on or going off could be a bad circuit. Butterflies come out of nowhere anyway. Things move? Maybe there's a draft. Point is, some things can have more than one cause...

[djsterf]

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As a believing Christian, I look forward to eternity very much. I don't look forward to death until it's due time, though, as it would be painful to those who love me here on earth.

[Kuzya]

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You hold a lot of the ideas that I do. At least, it seems that way. While I'm sure the intelligent post is appreciated, you do assume quite a bit here. You can't be factually sure of most of the things you outlined there, and I know there are at least several people on this board who will disagree with you. Lights coming on or going off could be a bad circuit. Butterflies come out of nowhere anyway. Things move? Maybe there's a draft. Point is, some things can have more than one cause...

It's true that all of these things can have a logical cause,
but say if there wasn't a draft or a bad circuit...
what about the stories on the internet when people say that their water ran pure black? Or when they post a camera up and see objects thrown out of their fridge even though there's not anyone or anything there.
Alot of people would disagree, and I was pushing to see if there was anyone who would disagree. And I am guilty of assuming things.
If anyone wanted to know where I get these ideas watch the montel show on wednsdays, it's called Sylvia Browne wednsdays

Kudos!!! and Fight da Powah!

[PMS-purplepopcorn]

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My problem with people fearing an eternal afterlife is that they think of themself in their human state, with the same knowledge of the world around them. I take a quote from Douglas Adams.

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened."


But still every now and then I start to think of death and the end of human conciousness. A state of no thinking or breathing or feelings. My main problem is not thinking about what I will experience long before I die. I could live for a hundred years before I die, and by that time it'll probably get old.

One thing that I've found interesting is that as man becomes better at living longer and healthier, man finds more things to live for and discover, meaning that the number of things to ponder and the amount of time to ponder have stayed in at least some proportion.

dfm

[ckj846]

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The thing that scares me about death is that it is something that is unavoidable. When I think of death, I think that all of my accomplishments in life have no real meaning at all because EVERYTHING is taken away when you die. Death is unforgiving; it doesn't matter who you are, how rich you are, what you have done for the world. You die and that is the end. Everything that you work for (having a family, being successful) all means nothing in the "end'. I just think that it is a cruel fate that is shared by everyone. Personally, I don't follow any certain religion faithfully or with much enthusiasm, mostly because I know most religions were made as a way for profit for some old geezer (no offense meant). Death is a scary "concept," and there really isn't anything that you can do to avoid it. I think that if we fret and worry over death in the present, we will be too scared to enjoy life and work for our goals. The way I look at it, we all have to accept the fact that at one point in time, everyone will have to go, whether it is on to the next world or a place of infinite nothingness. Beliefs about the afterlife, in my opinion, are just ways that people have found to comfort themselves, especially if they just lost a loved one or they are terminally ill. Sorry for rambling on about practically nothing. My point is, death is unavoidable and people should not worry about it so much that it affects the rest of their lives here on Earth.
O_o

[darkwarrior7]

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I'm surprized no emo/goth ppl have replied to this, so i'm going to. you shouldn't be scared of death. there is no such thing as nothingness. and i bet none of u can tell me wat nothingness is. u wouldnt feel it if u die, cuz ur dead XD. theres no point in living, if u come back. u'd prolly come back in a better world too. supose u do come back on "earth",u might come back in the year 3685 or sumthing. then we wouldnt need ipods/cellphones/ we'd prolly be sending messages and listening to music in our heads perfectly.might at well die now, cuz there is no nothingness. and hell? ya right....heaven? ya right.

Signed,
The Happy Philsofer