Suicide

[Kilgamayan]

Oh, I forgot to post thoughts on this issue.

As far as I'm concerned, it's their life, it's their choice, and neither myself nor anyone else on the planet is in any position to rightfully judge their final desicion.

[Anticrombie0909]

Uh, if it's illegal, all that will do is make the suicidal person make damn sure he gets the job done.

Real effective.

As for suicide...anybody who condemns suicide obviously has never suffered from severe depression. I'm not talking about I GOT A B- ON MY TEST BOO HOO WOE IS ME, I'm talking about actual, clinical, chemical-imbalance depression. Having suffered from it without medication (my parents don't know) for a good ~3 years now, I can tell you that it's the worst feeling in the world. There is not anything that feels worse than severe depression. Nothing. I can promise you that. Why do you think people cut themselves? Because they want a way to make the pain they feel inside physical. They want to feel something, anything different than how they feel now, and even severe pain is better.

It's not a logical illness. You can't just say "talk yourself out of it" or "go get some friends loser." It's the most irrational illness around. It's like a phobia. You can scream at yourself to feel better till you're blue in the face, it won't matter. You can have a perfect life and have all the friends in the world, but none of that is worth anything when it comes to depression. It's like a drug that you're always taking, always addicted to, but never satisfied. There's no up, only down. You keep waiting for it to get better, you tell yourself that it's got to get better, and it never does. You just keep going down, down and down.

Don't ever take it lightly if somebody tells you they have depression. You honestly cannot even fathom how horrible it is. It's horrible enough to make somebody want to die. There's literally nothing else in the world like it.

[Meteor858]

anticrombie you took the words outta my mouth
No seriously it was very well put and very true
those of you who dont have depression cannot even fathom it
-meteor

[QreepyBORIS]

I know it's not supposed to be taken this way, but all the people suffering from depression sound almost ELITIST about it. :P

"You you guys can't imagine, don't try."


But I digress. (Attempted) Suicide should not be illegal, but the people should be seriously put on medication. Cause massive therapy would probably fail, anyways. And jail (using our heads, here) would be like the perfect thing to EXACERBATE the strength of the depression.

And I think Suicide is only actually ILLEGAL in England.

[Benny1]

Okay since we are on the topic, my friend is depressed apparently, because he took this medicine for his ADD a long time ago, and he keeps telling me he wants to suicide, I have no clue what to do, I try to help him get help, but he refuses, says people aren't ever trying to help, they just want to be rich bastards, he says he once had gotten help and he hated the person so much, he said it didn't help at all, he refuses entirely. I don't know what to do, it's really scary though, knowing my friend might kill himself. He also refuses to ask his parents if there is anything they can do too. I just don't get it, I'm not able to understand this stuff....

[Meteor858]

benny that kinda sounds like me.....
... what you should do if he ever gets suicidal like that say if your going im going to, so if he really is your friend he wont do it.
any more problems just ask
-meteor

[stretchypanda]

benny that kinda sounds like me.....
... what you should do if he ever gets suicidal like that say if your going im going to, so if he really is your friend he wont do it.
any more problems just ask
-meteor

...

Okay, so a person already has some serious mental issues, and we're going to throw something like, "A real friend wouldn't do it because I threatened to kill myself too."

Making empty threats like that is bull and will not have any effect. Your friend will call your bluff, and then what? You have a dead friend. Whoops!

Wow. You are the king of bad advice, hun.

Benny, it's a really rough situation that you're in. The fact that you are trying to reach out to him is good. Make sure your friend knows how much he means to you, and to other people in his life. Do his parents know he's having problems? It might be hard to go to an adult, especially if this kid does not want adults knowing what is wrong, but things like this could escalate beyond your control...

Just be there for him. Your concern should be touching.

[Kilgamayan]

There is NO reason that something is so horrible that you have to end it like that. NONE.

And you know this for a fact how?

[Kilgamayan]

I don't know.

But that doesn't mean that there isn't something out there that could push me over the edge. Perhaps there is, and I simply haven't experienced it yet.

[ddrruler]

Shox you don't understand along with the people who say your being selfish etc...the only way you would understand if you have been/are depressed....I was sucidal last summer...im on some adhd med that doubles as a depression supresser.

[Cenright]

That is the main problem. Depression becomes a self-fulfilling process. To just break the depression by getting outside and around people can work wonders.

[Kilgamayan]

That's assuming doing so will, in fact, fix depression.

It's entirely possible that for any given case, that won't do anything.

[TheTypist]

...A very close friend of my family had the.. uh.. "privilege" of discovering the body of her ex-husband after he killed himself, and then, just before I started college, her only son -- again, the victim of suicide...

Notice the bolded word. Victim usually means there is a suspect. And the suspect usually gets in trouble. So what if they're one and the same?

The Constitution protects the right to pursue happiness, not a right to kill yourself.

[talisman]

Depression is a physical illness... trying to change the way you think won't do anything unless you have magic serotonin reuptake blocking powers. Seriously, most of the people who attempt suicide probably exhibit clinical depression and should go on some drugs (Zoloft, Prozac, etc.).

Also no one is depressed in the clinical sense until they've been "blue" for at least six months straight.

[Cenright]

That's assuming doing so will, in fact, fix depression.

It's entirely possible that for any given case, that won't do anything.

Yes, that's true. But I doubt that there are very many people that bad.
That happens when people start to feel there is nothing else than depression, which is probably the main leader to suicide.