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  • Vamps
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 64

    #136
    Originally posted by esupin
    Originally posted by -Skooter-
    Depression is psychological, not clinical.
    I agree with you there.

    I think suicide is cowardly and selfish. I really don't care how bad your life is in the US, but there are millions of people in the world worse off than you. Take 75% of the people in Niger(You might have heard this on the news, but nost of you don't watch the news). They are experiencing a famine. Children are dying, and people have to eat their dead relatives to stay alive. Do they commit suicide? No.
    Bull#$%^ its not clinical!!! If you call a chemical inbalance phsychological...you need some help! As i said before...it CAN be psychological....but there are so many cases of clinical depression...you're going to have a hard time proving otherwise!!

    *side note*Did you ever think that maybe not all of us come from the US?

    Get some facts would you
    Romans 10: 14-15a
    \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

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    • esupin
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2003
      • 1756

      #137
      1. I know it can be physiological too, I just forgot to mention it. Sorry.

      2. I wouldn't know about the living conditions in other countries, so I would not know how "good" life is there.

      3. Good day, ma'am, then.

      http://www.youtube.com/esupin

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      • Vamps
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2005
        • 64

        #138
        Uhhh....u said it IS psycological!!!! Make up your mind would you?! And why dont you try learning about other countries?? You'll appreciate your life so much more when you find out how many children are dying in them. And just to go back onto your other post....poverty...just as sever as what you mentioned in Niger....is in your very own county..quite possibly your very own school! I live in Australia...and i know for a fact that a girl im very close friends with is considered below the poverty line...she has a house over her head...even access to the internet...but most of her "creature comforts" were supplied by friends of the family and charities...

        back on topic...please make up your mind when you argue

        and im a girl...not a guy...
        Romans 10: 14-15a
        \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

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        • esupin
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2003
          • 1756

          #139
          1. I said it was physiological, too. Not psychological.

          2. The famine(not poverty) is Niger cannot be compared to anything in the US. Their crops were wiped out by locusts, and a drought soon followed. People were forced to sell their cattle, which is probably the only valuable thing they owned. There is literally no food in some areas. This is not the same as wandering around homeless, staring through the windowpane of McDonald's.

          http://www.youtube.com/esupin

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          • Vamps
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2005
            • 64

            #140
            Famine is linked to poverty...and there is literally no food in some places in America, Australia, Asia and Europe....There are people in these countries that have just as much food and resources and the people in Niger....you're blind not to be able to see that....but this is completely irrelevent to the topic!!!
            Romans 10: 14-15a
            \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

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            • chocoborider30
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2005
              • 15

              #141
              Originally posted by Vamps
              Famine is linked to poverty...and there is literally no food in some places in America
              A.K.A My kitchen

              Besides...If you can't put up with what is thrown at you, so you kill yourself, You are weak. I don't care if the world has died around you. Commiting suicide is offensive to everyone else, and it makes others think of it as well.

              I don't frankly want to hear your problems. I've been through a load already. I even thought of suicide for a while, and tried it. I passed out before I could finish the job. But after I got out of the Lauriette, and after counseling was over, I knew, for a fact, suicide shows a weakness that nobody else has. It has no relevance to wether or not you think suicide is right or wrong. If you commit suicide, you're weak. End of story.

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              • esupin
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2003
                • 1756

                #142
                Originally posted by chocoborider30
                Originally posted by Vamps
                Famine is linked to poverty...and there is literally no food in some places in America
                A.K.A My kitchen


                Somewhat echoing my point:
                Originally posted by chocoborider30
                I don't care if the world has died around you. Commiting suicide is offensive to everyone else, and it makes others think of it as well.

                If you commit suicide, you're weak.
                As for my last two posts that were off topic... I felt I had to defend myself, nothing more.

                http://www.youtube.com/esupin

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                • -Skooter-
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 316

                  #143
                  Vamps, here's a realization. Mal, I think this reflects off of your post as well. Even though, there is a such thing as clinical depression, most of the idiots out here, don't really have an imbalance. Therefore making their depression psychological.

                  As for you Vamps, you are a psychological case. REAL depressed people don't flaunt it, because it's not a quality, it's a posession. Not only that, but they also don't run around in baggy fifty dollar pants, and black eye liner, and assume they are making some extreme statement to the world about how lonely they are in life. I've been there, done that. It's f*ing ignorant.

                  You can rant and rave to me to explain that you dress that way because you like it, and that you call yourself goth because it's "Your scene" but you're lying. I don't buy that shit for one second. So before you go preaching and trying to teach me a lesson, it would probably be in your best interest to not be so "fraud" about it.

                  No, Choco, you're not weak if you commit suicide. You're stupid. (I bet you thought I was going to say something sweet, sensetive, and emotional, huh?) There's no reason to be nice about it, in fear of how someone's going to take it, shit, if they hesitate to kill themselves, then they're more than likely not going to do it anyways. The only people that kill themselves, or attempt to, are a bunch of flaming idiots, and the people who support them with pats on the back, and cupcakes, are even dumber than them.

                  Edit: Vamps, your exclamation points aren't making you're statements anymore powerful than you are assuming they already are. They just look stupid.
                  .so what. -Skooter- .drama makes life boring.

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                  • Vamps
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 64

                    #144
                    excuse me...but i was BORN with depression..i do believe that makes it umm...maybe...AN INBALANCE!! i DONT run around in baggy $50 pants and black eyeliner...i rarely wear makeup...i cant afford fancy things like that! i am NOT flaunting the fact that i have depression...as a matter of fact i try to tell myself and my mother that i DONT have depression....but when you find yourself feeling depressed when there is absolutely NO logical reason to be depressed...you kinda assume that u have it. Not to mention the fact that my great-grandma, my grandma and my mum all have clinical depression...all of them severe clinical depression...it CAN be passed on genetically...i've done the research...not something id do if i was just depressed for the sake of being depressed or something. The "goth" thing...is just something im interested in...u stereotype waaaay too much! and as for emlamation marks...i just like using them...i couldnt care less about ur opinions. Try looking up a few facts before u go making comments about depression...if ud read the WHOLE 10 pages of the thread...you would realise what it looks like for some1 to be "flaunting" their depression!
                    Romans 10: 14-15a
                    \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

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                    • Tokzic
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2005
                      • 6878

                      #145
                      What do I think about suicide?

                      I think suicide is the easy way out. Suicide is announcing to yourself that your problems are beyond being solvable and that because you let your existance become meaningless to you, you're going to end it. In other words, you're weak. All problems can be solved one way or another, and most problems can be lived with. As long as I'm enjoying parts of my life, which I make sure of, it'll always be worth living. Problems happen, and killing yourself is not a solution.

                      What especially sickens me are those who get depressed over relationships. "oh he hates me im gona kil miself!!!1" Stupid. Get over it.

                      In fact, to anyone considering suicide, I have this to say:

                      You suck. Life pwnz you. Go get therapy.

                      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                      • jewpinthethird
                        (The Fat's Sabobah)
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 11711

                        #146
                        Originally posted by -Skooter-
                        Depression is psychological, not clinical.
                        If it isnt clinical, then why do they call it clinical depression?

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                        • -Skooter-
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 316

                          #147
                          Because they're idiots. Something ultimately can't exist if we as humans don't make it up and turn it into "the truth".
                          .so what. -Skooter- .drama makes life boring.

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                          • Vamps
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 64

                            #148
                            uhh...where do u get that from? Trees, animals ect. existed BEFORE humans...so that theory doesnt work. And a chemical inbalance cant just exist simply because a human up and says it does!
                            Romans 10: 14-15a
                            \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

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                            • shade11
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 373

                              #149
                              Never good wasnt good wont be good it's no good. Who in their right ming would smoke Pot? It should be only meant for medical purposes.

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                              • Tokzic
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2005
                                • 6878

                                #150
                                Originally posted by shade11
                                Never good wasnt good wont be good it's no good. Who in their right ming would smoke Pot? It should be only meant for medical purposes.
                                Wrong thread. This is about depression, suicide, and other stupidity. XP

                                Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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