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  • spm515
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 80

    #241
    Re: FFR Suggestions

    Score is done differently, it's a total amount that you have missed in raw scoring, one way to view this is to hover over the score while playing a song to display the raw score missed. This is also the number that shows up on the score screen as missed. If you were to set the score fail to 1, you would fail out for anything besides perfects as anything else adds to the lost total.
    Alright I see how that works now. However, for something like the situation I presented, it just isn't very helpful unless I know what the AAA score for that particular song is. And If I'm setting an autofail on it I probably don't. The FFR perfect project would help with this but it is incomplete and it would be annoying to look up the thread every time change songs.
    Originally posted by DotKritic
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    • bmah
      shots FIRED
      Profile Moderator
      FFR Simfile Author
      Global Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 8448

      #242
      Re: FFR Suggestions

      This suggestion is merely to fix a cosmetic feature, but the progress bar of many songs isn't all that representative. Quite often, the progress bar would indicate that a song is near its end, when really it might not've even reached the halfway point.

      Not all songs are like this. Some of them actually have a working bar that shows a correct progression from start to finish (where the end is -actually- the end of the song!).

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      • Tailstail
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2008
        • 91

        #243
        Re: FFR Suggestions

        I had a bar that finished like 2 minutes before the song did. XD Although I'm unsure how the bar works so I can't even suggest a way to fix it.
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        • Patashu
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          • Apr 2006
          • 8609

          #244
          Re: FFR Suggestions

          some mp3s weren't cut to the duration of the chart when they were put in and the progress bar uses the mp3
          for instance, play Humanism
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          • Izzy
            Snek
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2003
            • 9195

            #245
            Re: FFR Suggestions

            Originally posted by spm515
            Alright I see how that works now. However, for something like the situation I presented, it just isn't very helpful unless I know what the AAA score for that particular song is. And If I'm setting an autofail on it I probably don't. The FFR perfect project would help with this but it is incomplete and it would be annoying to look up the thread every time change songs.
            If you are going for a AAA all you have to do is put a 1 in every autofail field and you will fail if you get anything but a AAA.

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            • Velocity
              Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Administrator
              • Jul 2007
              • 1817

              #246
              Re: FFR Suggestions

              The progress bar really gets the last note frame number, and uses that. I can't even access the mp3, let alone the length

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              • Izzy
                Snek
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2003
                • 9195

                #247
                Re: FFR Suggestions

                You could use the last frame of the sound layer, but it wouldn't make much difference. Or is that information lost after swf export?

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                • Velocity
                  Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Administrator
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1817

                  #248
                  Re: FFR Suggestions

                  Originally posted by Izzy
                  You could use the last frame of the sound layer, but it wouldn't make much difference. Or is that information lost after swf export?
                  Nope, the only problem I can see with the bar and the time it takes to fill up is on a longer song, it would cause a issue where the pixel increase every frame would be to small and would glitch out, but that's a flash issue which this already is.

                  The converter also generates a Dummy layer that extends far past the end of the song.

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                  • Xandertrax
                    om nom nom
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1495

                    #249
                    Re: FFR Suggestions

                    Howabout a new genre: Recent Additions? That would work a lot better than just stuffing all the new songs into Funk until they're sorted. They could stay in Recent for 2-3 weeks, then they could be properly sorted.

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                    • bmah
                      shots FIRED
                      Profile Moderator
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      Global Moderator
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 8448

                      #250
                      Re: FFR Suggestions

                      I was about to say...it would indeed be awesome to have a "most recent songs" list for the engine, not in regards to what songs you've just played (although that would be cool too), but the newest songs that have been added to FFR.

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                      • aperson
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                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3431

                        #251
                        Re: FFR Suggestions

                        Yea I think that's a wonderful idea and I'll take a look at editing the table structure to accomodate.

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                        • Izzy
                          Snek
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 9195

                          #252
                          Re: FFR Suggestions

                          About the miss glitch. Would it be possible to fix if you made it impossible to get late goods and beyond? Anything past the three perfect windows would be a miss. And as soon as you got the miss it would make the next note the target note you are trying to hit and not be looking at the past note.

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                          • Velocity
                            Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Administrator
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1817

                            #253
                            Re: FFR Suggestions

                            Originally posted by Izzy
                            About the miss glitch. Would it be possible to fix if you made it impossible to get late goods and beyond? Anything past the three perfect windows would be a miss. And as soon as you got the miss it would make the next note the target note you are trying to hit and not be looking at the past note.
                            I could, but that would really mess up things.

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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #254
                              Re: FFR Suggestions

                              Just make it as an alternative game mode. That way more advanced players could use it to avoid miss glitch but have a more difficult time because late goods would be a miss. Maybe you could even get it to work by just having misses send the input to the next note even without shortening the window, but I'm assuming it already does this and that it needs to be shorter.

                              Or at least just try it as an experiment.
                              Last edited by Izzy; 12-19-2010, 06:37 PM.

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                              • foxfire667
                                The FFRchiver
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 2169

                                #255
                                Re: FFR Suggestions

                                In the main engines, there seemed to be an implimented feature for showing the songs you have FC'd and AAA'd set up in the engine (as icons next to the songs)...although it is not currently updating. Seemed like a decent idea to have a quick reference to whether or not I FC'd or AAA'd a song without always pulling up the level stats and closing the browser again to play a song. Would be cool if that was put into action again.
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