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  • alloyus
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2006
    • 3269

    #5311
    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

    so excited :3

    ^FFP_D0pey btw

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #5312
      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

      - We calculate final scores of a file in two ways, "raw average" and "adjusted average" (halving MAX & MIN scores). If one of these is above the cutoff then the file is accepted. Both scores should be above the certain line for SAP(2) or SAP(3).
      Can you clarify this rule, please? Wouldn't the adjusted average -always- be below the raw average?

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      • jimerax
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Nov 2003
        • 8185

        #5313
        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

        Originally posted by TC_Halogen
        Can you clarify this rule, please? Wouldn't the adjusted average -always- be below the raw average?
        oh nope, since we're dividing with (n-1) for adjusted average.

        9/7/7/7 -> raw = 7.5 and adj = 7.33
        8/8/8/4 -> raw = 7.0 and adj = 7.33
        Last edited by jimerax; 12-1-2012, 01:33 AM.

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        • TC_Halogen
          Rhythm game specialist.
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2008
          • 19376

          #5314
          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

          Originally posted by jimerax
          oh nope, since we're dividing with (n-1) for adjusted average.
          9/7/7/7 -> raw = 7.5 and adj = 7.33
          8/8/8/4 -> raw = 7.0 and adj = 7.33
          HELLO

          did not know that bolded part, haha.

          So, using the 8/8/8/4, we'd cut one 8 and the 4 in half to go:

          4/8/8/2 (equaling 22)

          and then since the values are cut in half, the numbers are half as potent (i.e. 4 and 2 become worth half a judge a piece to make the [n-1].)

          That makes a lot more sense; thanks a lot JX

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          • Coolboyrulez0
            VICES
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            FFR Music Producer
            • Aug 2006
            • 10042

            #5315
            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

            2/4 plus a resubmit... not bad. Will fix up SMB2 and if anything is truly wrong with TYHY i'll fix that up too. Pretty pleased. :>
            Last edited by Coolboyrulez0; 12-1-2012, 01:57 AM.
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            • Xx{Midnight}xX
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2007
              • 8548

              #5316
              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

              Got a chart into the resub list?

              You're to kind!

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              • Zakvvv666
                I catch fruit
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jun 2009
                • 2861

                #5317
                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                Team Blaze invading resubmissions :3

                Also yay one chart in and the other is a resub~



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                Disclaimer: This photo is not guaranteed to cause pleasure.


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                • VisD
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1196

                  #5318
                  Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                  Finally got a chart in holy crap I'd like to thank my mother my father my priest my teacher my coach my terrapins my lovers and of course the Academy.


                  On and a resub too, that's pretty neat as well


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                  • krunkykai22
                    <3 Jumpstream <3
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5436

                    #5319
                    Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                    Originally posted by jimerax
                    FYI, we have a system to make the rating system fairer (ex. when one judge's rating is drastically lower/higher than others).

                    - If average rating of one group is higher than another one, the final ratings will be adjusted between groups (average file quality factor = 50%, judge's strictness factor = 50%).
                    - If a judge is stricter/more lenient (lower/higher average rating) than others in the same group, the ratings will be adjusted. Variation of ratings will be considered too.
                    - We calculate final scores of a file in two ways, "raw average" and "adjusted average" (halving MAX & MIN scores). If one of these is above the cutoff then the file is accepted. Both scores should be above the certain line for SAP(2) or SAP(3).
                    I thought the exact same thing that AJ did. When calculating it before the n-1 it was ALWAYS consistently lower ... naturally. Now with the (n-1) I see how both scores would differ then.

                    So (using my file as an example) is this right:

                    My Ratings were - 2,6,6,7 :

                    Raw = 5.25
                    Adj = 5.5

                    ?

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                    • iironiic
                      D6 FFR Legacy Player
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4342

                      #5320
                      Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                      Yay for Beatrice!! (: First time getting more than one SAP on one file!

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                      • kommisar
                        Dark Chancellor
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 7324

                        #5321
                        Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                        leg tap will make it in game


                        I swear it

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                        • Xiz
                          TWG Chaos
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3399

                          #5322
                          Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                          Can someone please explain this further for me?

                          On one of my songs (Discord) I got a 7/7/7/5 getting average of (6.5 raw?)

                          ...however I do not see it in the resubmissions, even though a 6.48-6.39's are considered? I'm confused.

                          Thx~
                          Last edited by Xiz; 12-1-2012, 06:52 AM.

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                          • jimerax
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 8185

                            #5323
                            Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                            You can't forget group/judge adjustment.

                            Discord (7-7-7-5) -> 6.65-6.69-6.55-4.65 -> raw 6.13 / adj 6.29 -> 6.29
                            NRG (6-2-6-7) -> 5.84-3.69-6.46-6.92 -> raw 5.73 / adj 5.87 -> 5.87
                            Last edited by jimerax; 12-1-2012, 07:27 AM.

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                            • Xiz
                              TWG Chaos
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3399

                              #5324
                              Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                              Originally posted by jimerax
                              You can't forget group/judge adjustment.

                              Discord - raw 6.13 / adj 6.29 -> 6.29
                              Lol off by 0.1
                              Damn it. Oh well, third times the charm? Curse you Bmah hahaha

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                              • MarioNintendo
                                Expect delays.
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                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 4177

                                #5325
                                Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 (Submissions CLOSED)

                                Originally posted by kommisar
                                leg tap will make it in game


                                I swear it
                                Your perfect streak is dead. Get over it mang. Nobody's perfect.

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