MapleStory

[ckj846]

Re: MapleStory

I don't really see the advantage of being pure polearm. From my experience, it seems crusher basically owns fury in every aspect. It does more damage, handles mobs better, looks better (IMO). I just really don't see the point of pure PA, I guess it's probably something like a BW WK? (Made for unqiueness).

From most of the PA's I know, it is about the kb. The polearm attack (too lazy to recall or look it up, just got back from school -___-) the one that swings does much more damage, it is just like arrow blow compared to ds or strafe. Crusher doesn't really "own" the swinging attack, it is just more stable. I don't see a point in PA just because DKs in general are priest whores. Other then cheaper prices... seems pointless to me but I'm not one to judge.
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PS: I can make about 600k at lusters an hour and get 4%. That is decent exp and crazy money O__O I need to save up money because I'm going to 60% scroll my dark falcon for hp and 60% jump for my shoes >< I have all my equips now, including metal heart earrings. I also plan on dying my hair blue for when I hit 80 since I have extra nx. Yay.

[vashthestampede0987]

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Falc, I'll buy the scroll off you.

[Earth_and_Salmon]

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Do any of you guys play in Windia? I really want to find some FFR peoples that play in Windia...

[IAAW]

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Most of us FFR'ers is in Bera. I'm in Broa. Pretty much the only one there. =(

[AnxiousJosh]

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IAAW we can hook up on broa sometime , im a lvl 105 mage, you?

[ProtoMDS]

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:P everyone is poking fun at me because I'm pure pole arm.
Well, I made my decision back at lvl 29-ish, based on the availability of the lvl 30 weapon (I had a 55 attack mithril pole arm sitting there waiting for me). Things happened, and well, I just stuck to my guns/pole arms.
Plus, I don't really care about the whole "hi-dex low-dex argument", I've made 59 levels high dex, and I'm gonna do it the whole way.
POLE ARMS FTW!!!!!!!! :P
THE GREAT EDITTO: I really don't see a problem with Pure Pole Arm and Hi-Dex. Someone care to enlighten me?
THE GREAT EDITTO 3: Keeto, my DEX is currently at 90. I plan to Cap it at 100, and I think my accuracy rate at Death ( I MEAN SOUL) Teddies is almost the same as yours.

[TheAznLarry]

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KEEEEEEEETOOOO

I'm gonna need my doom back soon

I think I might lvl tomorrow. If I'm lucky, I could get in 3rd job TODAY but I doubt it. I've still got a pretty big physics lab and tons of other random crap to do. Ugh.

[Afrobean]

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I can make about 600k at lusters an hour and get 4%. That is decent exp and crazy money O__O

Good money, yeah, but REALLY BAD EXP

I need to save up money because I'm going to 60% scroll my dark falcon for hp

DO NOT DO THAT.

HP IS NO GOOD FOR ANYONE BUT PRIESTS.

IF YOU SCROLL A HELM, SCROLL FOR DEFENSE.

HOWEVER, I WOULD RECOMMEND SIMPLY NOT SCROLLING AT ALL.

Basically, HP is only any good if it will make a difference between you surviving a hit or not surviving a hit (or multiple hits). You still take the same amount of damage as you did before. Therefore, your pot use rate will remain the same. If your defense is increased, even slightly, your damage will be less. When your damage is less, your pot rate use, in theory, is lessened slightly, hence saving you A LITTLE money.

That's not really how it is though, You can only take something like 2 hits from DT right? Which means you probably just pot every time you take damage. I imagine there would be overuse of potions, so higher defense is irrelevent when it's that little.

The best solution is, in the end, to not scroll them at all.

The only real benefit for scrolling a helm I can see for anyone at all besides priest is 10% helm def. It adds accuracy.

Regarding the purepolearm: Not a big deal. Spears are cooler (stable damage or something... I dunno... people already went over this), but polearms have their strengths as well (which everyone has already mentioned in detail as well). The high dex thing is stupid though. Like evilbutterfly said, high dex won't let you level on things of higher level because level is ALWAYS more important than accuracy when you're a lower level. All it will do is lower your max damage by a lot and raise your min damage by a little.

Keeto, my DEX is currently at 90. I plan to Cap it at 100, and I think my accuracy rate at Death Teddies is almost the same as yours.

And you're surely substantially weaker.

[IAAW]

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IAAW we can hook up on broa sometime , im a lvl 105 mage, you?

Let's see... i'm a 1x warrior who used to be a 3x sin... that goes together, huh? But if you wanna hook up sometime then yes, I would be delighted. IGN is IAAW just so you know.

[evilbutterfly]

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For proto or whatever your name is, go to the accuracy calculator and put in your accuracy/level for DTs and tell us your hitrate: http://glue.umd.edu/~mdevries/acc.html

After that, see how your accuracy needed and hitrate would change if you were 5 levels higher. It makes a big difference. See, Keeto is smart about his warrior because he puts his stats into the calculator and sees if he'll be able to 100% hit things with what he has. Thing is, if you're low dex, you can always put on some dex equips and have the equivalent accuracy as a higher dex warrior. However, once you're able to hit things without that dex gear, you can switch to str/attack gear instead and do way more than the dexful person who can't get rid of their dex. Low dex has more versatility in that they're able to be both strong and accurate. Low dex is stuck with weaker but more accurate hits and can't just equip something to exchange dex for str/attack.

Also, about dex increasing the min. It does less for that than str does. For polearms, dex increases min by 1/100 per watk. Str increases min by 1.62/100 per watk. For 2h swords, dex does 1 while str does 2.484. So uh, yeah, dex does **** for min damage, and should only be added if you need it to hit things. Your hit rate on DTs shouldn't matter at this point cuz you're not going to level there for a while. Thus, don't worry about them, just make sure you're hitting yetis or whatever you're on now.

And the reason the spear skill is better is because it does WAY more damage. The only way the polearm one can do more is if it's hitting 5-6 monsters, which doesn't happen nearly as often as hitting 2-3 monsters does. The polearm skill does have longer range and does its hits all at once, so it can KB a little bit better (170% vs 250% in a single hit). Hilariously enough, Power Strike outdamages the swinging skill (260% vs 250%) when you're up against just one monster. LO-friggin-L.

[ckj846]

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Good money, yeah, but REALLY BAD EXP

Not really. You are just spoiled as a priest. At level 77, I was getting an average of 4-6% an hour grinding at souls, buffys, and jetis. I haven't tried zombies but it isn't worth my time trying to find a map to get like 7% an hour because you waste so much time and money (plus the drops suck hard there now). 3-4% an hour and EXTREME MONEY=win for me because I'm perfectly fine with that exp rate as of right now. Once I hit 88, I'll practically orgasm at the exp (15-20% an hour at vikings I've heard?). I'm set pretty much because some priest friends are going to help me out by letting me leech at grims or something... I don't know quite yet.

DO NOT DO THAT.

HP IS NO GOOD FOR ANYONE BUT PRIESTS.

IF YOU SCROLL A HELM, SCROLL FOR DEFENSE.

HOWEVER, I WOULD RECOMMEND SIMPLY NOT SCROLLING AT ALL.

Thing is... scrolling for def does absolutely nothing. 2 more wdef for like 300k is not worth it at all in my opinion. More hp for me means I'll have even more hp with hb and it just makes me feel uncomfortable when I can only take 1 and maybe two hits at DTs without hb. 60% hp scrolls aren't even that expensive either, it is the jump scrolls that really are going to be a pain. Everyone buys them and the prices are going up so I have to get the money really soon. Thing is, EVERYONE NEEDS HP, it is how everyone lives and who cares about an extra pot? If it means the difference between dying and living but using some extra pots, I'm fine with the second choice. I've talked to a lot of higher leveled rangers and all of them scroll their hats for hp just because archers are frail as it is. I know what I'm doing afro... thanks for the heads up though :P
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[Afrobean]

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Wow.

Can someone back me up here that HP scrolling is entirely useless unless it makes the difference between surviving a hit and dying?

Oh and btw, I'm not "spoiled." Everyone gets MUCH better exp rates than 4% or whatever per hour. Standard is right around 10% for a long time, but then shoots up as partying becomes more important.

[B0NK]

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Can someone back me up here that HP scrolling is entirely useless unless it makes the difference between surviving a hit and dying

i totally agree with you here.
i couldnt see why else you would scroll for hp

[ckj846]

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Tell me why then scrolling for defense is any better? Does practically the same thing, it raises your vitality so you can take more hits. Same thing with hp except it is actually more effective in doing so. Please don't treat me as an idiot, I do know what I am doing. What else could I scroll the hat for that would at least have a little value? Also, about the % an hour thing... Do you know how hard it is to get decent exp as an unfunded archer SOLOING EVERYWHERE? At least in your 7x, DKs still partied you, even if you didn't have great HS. Sorry to rant but seroiusly, dont' give me this bull**** that there is a standard for 10% an hour. There isn't, why do you think this is considered the second "hell period" for archers? If it was 10% an hour, I would have probably never complained and I would still have inspiration to level. Seriously, to be honest, most other classes have it a lot easier then rangers, and even bandits. Sure, hermits are "almost the same as archers" but at least they get partied because they have haste and they kill much faster because of haste and they throw stars faster. Warriors are retardedly strong... I'm sure you have seen the damage keeto does on DTs and just compare that to mine. Mages have a tough time I hear but priests are ****ing easy to train. Boring, yes, but easy. I hope I got my point across without looking like TOO much of an asshole.
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[falconsfan14]

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Tell me why then scrolling for defense is any better? Does practically the same thing, it raises your vitality so you can take more hits. Same thing with hp except it is actually more effective in doing so. Please don't treat me as an idiot, I do know what I am doing. What else could I scroll the hat for that would at least have a little value? Also, about the % an hour thing... Do you know how hard it is to get decent exp as an unfunded archer SOLOING EVERYWHERE? At least in your 7x, DKs still partied you, even if you didn't have great HS. Sorry to rant but seroiusly, dont' give me this bull**** that there is a standard for 10% an hour. There isn't, why do you think this is considered the second "hell period" for archers? If it was 10% an hour, I would have probably never complained and I would still have inspiration to level. Seriously, to be honest, most other classes have it a lot easier then rangers, and even bandits. Sure, hermits are "almost the same as archers" but at least they get partied because they have haste and they kill much faster because of haste and they throw stars faster. Warriors are retardedly strong... I'm sure you have seen the damage keeto does on DTs and just compare that to mine. Mages have a tough time I hear but priests are ****ing easy to train. Boring, yes, but easy. I hope I got my point across without looking like TOO much of an asshole.
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This whole arguement between CKJ and afro has made me laugh. Its 5am, thanks!