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  • Elite Ninja
    Kawaii Desu
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2007
    • 4827

    #391
    Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

    Originally posted by justin_ator
    Perhaps we should just limit new releases from the TP system for a month until after they are released? Idk, throwing out ideas.
    This is what I was thinking.
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    • rushyrulz
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      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2006
      • 12985

      #392
      Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

      If someone doesn't play for a month their skill is going to drop anyway..


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      • Ninty64
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 738

        #393
        Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

        Originally posted by SocoNhydro420
        Besides, adding one or two songs at a time wouldn't change how good they look very much at all. The tier point bar would just be like, 10 points higher and their TPs would stay the same. Not a noticible difference in my opinion.
        I actually tried to delete my post because I didn't like it, but it wouldn't let me The point I meant to make in the post was that if you add most of the songs to tier points, then tier points may become another 'completionist' bar; it won't be as indictive of skill. But I realized that I can't think of any better way to do it, so that's why I wanted to delete my post.

        I would like new songs to be added to the system, but it's complicated. If you use a system where you need a percentage of points to advance tier levels, then adding new points to tiers that you previously completed could cause you to no longer meet the requirements for your current tier. You could:
        1. Never decrease someone's tier level (let them get grandfathered in), or
        2. Decrease their tier level, which would mean adding new tier points actually would affect them.

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        • jimerax
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Nov 2003
          • 8185

          #394
          Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

          AAAs, averank, etc = Just simple stats that are automatically calculated.
          TP = Accurate indicator of skills calculated with complicated system, and we need to update the system manually.

          A month is a good interval for active players to play the song at least once. Also, updating the system everytime new songs are added requires us a lot of work, and benefits from it don't match the effort imo. Req songs will be updated periodically, anyways.

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          • YoshL
            Celestial Harbor
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Aug 2008
            • 6156

            #395
            Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

            also, i think that you can potentially pick and choose certain songs for Tier points: ones that force the player to use different skills, i.e. jacking, js, trills, bursts, rolls, etc.


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            • SocoNhydro420
              FFR Veteran
              • Oct 2008
              • 915

              #396
              Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

              Originally posted by jimerax
              AAAs, averank, etc = Just simple stats that are automatically calculated.
              TP = Accurate indicator of skills calculated with complicated system, and we need to update the system manually.

              A month is a good interval for active players to play the song at least once. Also, updating the system everytime new songs are added requires us a lot of work, and benefits from it don't match the effort imo. Req songs will be updated periodically, anyways.
              I don't know anything about how complicated adding tps is, so I just assumed it was easy to add a song to the list. All I meant was that frequent small and easy updates beats one long, hard, and frustrating update haha. But like I said I know nothing about how it works so I could easilly be dead wrong. Just making a suggestion though :3

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              • qqwref
                stepmania archaeologist
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 4092

                #397
                Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                Originally posted by YOSHl
                also, i think that you can potentially pick and choose certain songs for Tier points: ones that force the player to use different skills, i.e. jacking, js, trills, bursts, rolls, etc.
                We're going to try to do this, although FFR songs do represent different skills unevenly. One thing we're thinking about is to disregard charts that are much harder to FC than to PA, because those tend to show skill unfairly (23-1-0-10 is much much better than 10-0-2-4).


                Originally posted by SocoNhydro420
                All I meant was that frequent small and easy updates beats one long, hard, and frustrating update haha.3
                Actually, personally I'd rather spend an hour on something every month than 15 minutes every week. At least with doing it all at once there would be less to keep track of and have responsibility for.
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                • raskanally
                  165th Top Average Player
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 292

                  #398
                  Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                  To address the adding of new TP songs.
                  What about instead of all these different tiers.
                  We make 2 new bars.
                  We would leave the one thats their right now the way it is.
                  But make these ones for the lower difficulty songs and for the new ones that are being added.
                  One for 8-10 and one for 11-13
                  Just another thought so that it would keep the people who dont play a lot with a full TP bar.
                  All it would mean is that they didn't always have the time to do the new ones.
                  It could be updated with the new songs on the 1st of every month with the recent songs added in the past month.
                  Just a thought.

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                    • Oct 2006
                    • 7313

                    #399
                    Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                    Attention Community,

                    Expect the thread to be made sometime today. I can not really give you a specific time though but it WILL be made today!
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                    • TC_Pr0
                      Washed up d5 player
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 631

                      #400
                      Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                      Originally posted by i love you
                      Attention Community,

                      Expect the thread to be made sometime today. I can not really give you a specific time though but it WILL be made today!
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                      • master q60
                        Aka Shinboro
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 895

                        #401
                        Re: Official Tier Point System Thread

                        cant wait!

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