Queue/Batch Discussion Thread

[Kit-]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

- In this case, it's pointless to have better stepfile authors judge your work; your merits will only increase insofar as their merits will. And, since they are already leagues of skill ahead of you, as long as they're improving, you're stepfiles will always come second in quality.

It's not like Shash and Tass compare files to each other unless they're of the same song. By your logic, since not many of the "heavy hitters" submitted stepcharts, more of the less-known artists should have gotten files into the queue.

- It's absolutely stupid to submit your subpar files in bulk, unless you're a stepfiling expert, because you have this fallacious idea that this will give you a better chance of getting a song of yours on FFR. Remember, more stepfiles means tighter competition, which results in prolifically strict judging. This means that the percentage of accepted songs will undoubtedly decrease, thus further ruining your chances of getting a file in the queue.

If a sim gets rejected, it doesn't affect any other sims. Also, see above.

In conclusion, **** this ****. FFR's just gonna be a redundant piece of **** fabricated by a handful of people with too much ****ing time on their hands. It doesn't matter though, who cares? Who gives a **** about newbie stepfile authors? It's a formula that works; people have fun playing fun stepfiles, and experienced stepfile authors make fun stepfiles, so there's no reason for this system to change.

Which is where your post falls apart and you show us that you're just disgruntled because your sims got rejected. If your files had been accepted, would that make you a person with too much ****ing time on your hands, or would you be humming a completely different tune right now?

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

WAAAAAH my files didnt get in **** **** **** **** **** **** this **** **** **** **** **** FFR

Becuase of course I was never an newbie.
I was just born able to make amazing files.
Obviously I didn't have to work at getting better.

[Kit-]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Becuase of course I was never an newbie.
I was just born able to make amazing files.
Obviously I didn't have to work at getting better.

[DarkProdigy]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

I read it. Seems as though he can't make up his mind.
"FFR is bad because newbies can't get files in the game."
"Newbies need to stop submitting files."

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

I've progressed.

EDIT- Relevant: signature.

[Kotarouchan]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Only thing I'm gonna say is...
If your file is not excepted, then you probably have a crap file. What you shouldn't do is whine; what you should do is redo it, then resubmit (and repeat, if necessary).

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Let me be a bit more clear. One of the most common advice given to newbie stepfile authors is "have experienced authors evaluate your stepfile, then turn it in." What I was saying with that point was that this is not nearly as effective as it sounds because those experienced authors are getting better along with the people they're critique-ing. So, even though the newbie improves, his chances for getting a song in FFR don't as much. This has nothing to do comparing one song with another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-up_effect

The catch-up effect, also called the theory of convergence, states that poorer economies tend to grow faster than richer economies. Therefore, all economies will eventually converge in terms of per capita income. Developing countries have the potential to grow at a faster rate and catch-up to the developed countries. They can do this by mimicking the factors of production and ideas of the developed countries.

[Kit-]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

SILENCE, you.

[Xception704]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

No, you're not "unworthy," nor did I ignore everything you said.

Sorry I was so rude in my previous post.

The thing is, this site has seen enough complaining recently (and a lot of it was about the most retarded things), and I just saw your post as another example and my temper flared a bit.

I apologize for that, and I was definitely expecting to be flamed for that (which I didn't care at the moment considering my temper). You didn't, and I definitely commend you for that.

As for your posts, you said, "I'm saying that it's retarded for a newbie to submit a bulk of sims"

Well, newbies should concentrate on ONE simfile, not go after making as many as they can hoping one gets in. Take things slow, and you may end up moving along faster (simfile-making skill-wise) than you'd think.

//edit: Also, hi19's post made me laugh.

[hi19hi19]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

all I'm trying to do is get one file on FFR without having to go through an unnecessarily strict bureaucracy.

Let me just point out that for the previous 5 or so pages all the "heavy hitters" were complaining about this exact same thing.

So it's not like we're immune or anything.

[Shashakiro]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

Yeah, newcomers probably shouldn't submit files in bulk. Don't think anyone disagrees with that.

Also, I haven't really gotten harsher with my judging since I started testing files in bulk...it doens't get harsher and harsher based on the number of submissions. The only thing I've gotten harsher in is calling a file overstepped, but that's more because of the reactions to some of the more overstepped files we've let in than because of a large number of submissions.

[Cyanite]

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I see no reason for a good, queue worthy stepfile to be rejected just because other people submitted a high number of songs.

[Tasselfoot]

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1. your most recent email or emails is not even in this queue

2. i most certainly have not changed my judging style to conform to the number of submissions. when i had 10 files to play or 45 files to play, i judged each one seperately. most of the files, i don't even know who made them while i'm playing them.

3. queue is unlimited. we aren't going to reject a file if it is queueworthy.

4. see #2. it's pretty important to counteract your argument.

probably could go into more detail... but what's the point. also, realize that the fewer songs we have to play each week... the more detail we can give on each file. more detail we give, the easier it is for you to fix up the file and re-submit it. i've gotten to the point where if a file is clearly not-queueworthy, i'll quit out of it to save time and go on to the next file.

[Evascythe]

Re: A List of ALL the Songs in the FFR Queue

They should have used hi19hi19's Destiny stepfile for FFR. It would have been funner to play.

kiki's is fun though