Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[Coolboyrulez0]

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seeing as both spitfiya and mrplopadop are both men i'd enjoy making sweet love with, i'll cast my vote their way hoping this increase my chances with them.
(for real tho, both are very qualified and awesome people to boot.)

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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damn, complimented by both one of my stepman idols as well as a guy who generally loathes each and every file that i put out. fuck it, i'm gettin' extra cheese on my sub tonight!

I don't need to like your charts to see you know what your doing

I mean anything I think I've ever said about your charts was mostly personal preference, but I can't remember clearly so that might be inaccurate.

Dunno I just tend to disagree a lot. Maybe it's just me.

[Xiz]

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I really like where this thread had ended up. Things are looking great. Oh, and hype for this batch still. Lolz.

[yo man im awesome]

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Plopadop and Spitfire aren't judges yet?

[Nullifidian]

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because you enjoy it? why is everything about getting satisfaction from others towards what you do? do a job because with the motivation of saying that it's a finished job when you finish, and earn the satisfaction of finishing a job that you said you would do. I don't care if people don't appreciate the work that I do for free, but I do care that the job gets done so that others will see the benefits of it. That's two entirely different things.

Do it because you want to AND because you possess the skills to, not because you need to. Sorry, but I fail to see how it's a stupid excuse and never will. In the case of the batch, there are people that are waiting for the notes and will undoubtedly be thankful to see them, so yeah, there's something to do the notes for every single time that they are volunteering.

You're missing the point, it's not satisfaction from others but rewards for you. Say you're making your career out of stepman (huehue). You'll want something more than a "you finished your job" in the long run, so it's natural people lose motivation if that's all you get as reward. Sure people are thankful for the judges doing their job but that never gets told to them explicitly. People bitch when you do a bad job, and people don't mention it when you're doing a good job because that's to be expected.

There's a ton of research on this stuff and I can go into more depth but basically, humans thrive for:
Meaning
Recognition
Compensation

Compensation being at the bottom of the pyramid and meaning at the top of the pyramid. Compensation is what draws people, recognition is what makes people stay, and meaning is what makes the job have meaning for their everyday life. These are the basics of motivation for a job. If there's a lack of these, then you can't expect someone to be motivated either, and since you're already lacking in compensation and recognition, it's no surprise that the motivation for meaning starts to diminish as well when you get no compensation and no recognition.

Everybody loses motivation, it's how the company (or in this case, FFR) reminds them of their motivation and rewards a job well done that boosts motivation.

Also, just as backup judge? lol

[Rebirth0]

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I see we're talking about adding or replacing judges. I'll throw my name into the pot, then. I'm sure you know my history regarding judging

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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Oh, and hype for this batch still. Lolz.

[MarioNintendo]

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[AlexDest]

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deja vu

[alloyus]

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@spitfire: I will say that being paid would obviously make the judges punctual, but that's human nature. In my opinion, if you volunteer for something, you're obligated to get it done and get it done on time if there's a deadline.

[iironiic]

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Quite honestly, I would like to remove myself from the judging position. I honestly don't see myself having time to commit myself to judging for the batches, (let alone play FFR as much as I used to) due to school and my social life. Feel free to remove/replace me.

[TC_Halogen]

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You're missing the point, it's not satisfaction from others but rewards for you. Say you're making your career out of stepman (huehue). You'll want something more than a "you finished your job" in the long run, so it's natural people lose motivation if that's all you get as reward. Sure people are thankful for the judges doing their job but that never gets told to them explicitly. People bitch when you do a bad job, and people don't mention it when you're doing a good job because that's to be expected.

Fair enough. I didn't really consider it implicitly. For the past two years though, I've taken simfiling/judging as a self-rewarding process. Something that a very popular r21freak member mentioned to me holds very true to me to this day:

PRO TIP: DO NOT WORRY ABOUT APPEALING TO PEOPLE THAT WILL NEVER LIKE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF A FILE, REGARDLESS OF HOW WELL THEY DO OR DO NOT FIT

With that being said, I just basically make files for my own enjoyment. If other people like them, then it's a nice bonus for me. Otherwise, it doesn't bother me. Same thing with judgment - I do it because I enjoy it, but if people approve of the notes that I make, then it's just a bonus of me doing a job. That's the way I see it.

Also, just as backup judge? lol

Meant this: backup if there's already 12 judges prior to you joining the team (if bmah/JX say so, lol).

[Nullifidian]

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@spitfire: I will say that being paid would obviously make the judges punctual, but that's human nature. In my opinion, if you volunteer for something, you're obligated to get it done and get it done on time if there's a deadline.

It's basic psychology and it's not that payment makes judges punctual per se, but it's boosts motivation. It's not just human nature, but nature of every living creature. It doesn't even have to be payment in the form of money.
Reward for a job well done = motivation boosts
No reward for a job well done = motivation diminishes

A reward can be compensation, recognition or meaning, but all three are connected. If you get payment but no recognition or meaning, you'll want to quit very soon cause it's a dead end. If you get recognition but no payment or meaning, same as before and it's a financial waste of time as well. If you get meaning and no payment or recognition, your motivation will drain with every job done because you don't get recognized for what you're doing + financial waste of time.

[Rebirth0]

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Is there an actual list of people we're looking at? I'm obviously kinda coming into the middle of this discussion. I looked back a few pages in the thread and couldn't find much

[Razor]

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Spitfire, Plopadop and Rebirth for judges plz.

+1s