God.

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

I've seen God many times. He's pretty cool.

No retards allowed in CT.

[Flyleef]

Re: God.

No retards allowed in CT.

In his abstract form. I'm not a retard, alright? I was serious. I've seen him in my dreams many times, and he has conversations with me.

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

In his abstract form. I'm not a retard, alright? I was serious. I've seen him in my dreams many times, and he has conversations with me.

I'm treating you as if you have the same capacity of intelligence as your posts do, and just about all of those that dwell in CT are going to. Unless you can post something that keeps the debate going, click on "New Posts" and move on.

[Flyleef]

Re: God.

I'm treating you as if you have the same capacity of intelligence as your posts do, and just about all of those that dwell in CT are going to. Unless you can post something that keeps the debate going, click on "New Posts" and move on.

Sorry, I was being stupid, seriously. Sorry about that.

[Master_of_the_Faster]

Re: God.

What use is it to even bother trying to say something like "I met god last night while he was mowing the lawn" or "God told me not to kill other people" when many people in critical thinking will not even acknowledge such statements without any evidence? Even though I highly doubt that any of these type of statements are true, if there is enough evidence, I can always change my views.

[vifs]

Re: God.

Romens used to make up gods for anything can't explain, I find it funny that some people think thats silly when they believe in god b/c they can't explain how the universe started.

Quick question: How is making up gods for everything you can't explain different from believing in god because you can't explain the universe?

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

Romens used to make up gods for anything can't explain, I find it funny that some people think thats silly when they believe in god b/c they can't explain how the universe started.

Quick question: How is making up gods for everything you can't explain different from believing in god because you can't explain the universe?

There is no difference, really. One makes up a God -> Others follow -> Rules of worship are written -> You have yourself a religion.

By the way, who are these people that are criticizing the Romans? They were no closer to discovering the universe than any other society was at that point.

[devonin]

Re: God.

Romens used to make up gods for anything can't explain, I find it funny that some people think thats silly when they believe in god b/c they can't explain how the universe started.

Quick question: How is making up gods for everything you can't explain different from believing in god because you can't explain the universe?

God created the Universe != There is an individual God controlling each individual aspect of existance.

[vifs]

Re: God.

God created the Universe != There is an individual God controlling each individual aspect of existance.

Well yah duh, but thats not what i mean, what i meant was people who believe in god are pretty much the same as the Romens who believed there was a god for everything they couldn't explain.

If you can't explain something that doesn't automatically create some higher being that caused it to happen.

p.s. i don't mean to dis on Romens im just using them as a example

[devonin]

Re: God.

Well yah duh, but thats not what i mean, what i meant was people who believe in god are pretty much the same as the Romens who believed there was a god for everything they couldn't explain.

I disagree completely. Go talk to some well-educated christians some time, see if you can find one who practices apologetics, and you'll find that plenty of christians feel they have ample evidence to justify a belief in God. It has very little to do with "I can't explain it, therefore God"

If you can't explain something that doesn't automatically create some higher being that caused it to happen.

To many people (Billions, a majority of the world even) it isn't "I can't explain, therefore invent God" it is "God, therefore the thing is explained"

p.s. i don't mean to dis on Romens im just using them as a example

Using a polytheistic religion as a vehicle to make statements about a monotheistic religion isn't a very good idea in the first place. But picking a polytheistic religion with anthropomorphic deites as a vehicle to make a statement about a monotheistic religion with a non-anthropomorphic deity is even worse.

[vifs]

Re: God.

Ok Devonin I understand what your saying. But what I mean to say is that in my option I don't see the point in believing in god simply because you can't explain life. Now as you said there are people who believe they have proved there is a god, and I can understand that. But whenever I ask someone why do they believe in god there answer is usually: "well there is no other way to explain life so there must be a god". I can't understand that, but thats just my opinion.

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

Ok Devonin I understand what your saying. But what I mean to say is that in my option I don't see the point in believing in god simply because you can't explain life. Now as you said there are people who believe they have proved there is a god, and I can understand that. But whenever I ask someone why do they believe in god there answer is usually: "well there is no other way to explain life so there must be a god". I can't understand that, but thats just my option.

It's opinion, but moving on...

Anyway, that's basically it: Religion explains what is considered unnatural (Creationism, miracles, etc.), at one point established [and still establishes] control over communities across the world, and gives people hope for a better life after death.

[Coolgamer]

Re: God.

I believe in the artificial god created to control the peasants while royalty ruled over them. I believe in a god that claims to love everyone then attacks the homosexuals he himself created, allows slavery, punishes women, and kills his own son to show us that he "forgives" us. I believe in a god that has been the indirect cause of countless wars and deaths, and whose supporters feel they have the right to force everyone to bend to his rules. I believe that a true rational look shows that there is less to believe in then most people think.

[devonin]

Re: God.

I believe in the artificial god created to control the peasants while royalty ruled over them. I believe in a god that claims to love everyone then attacks the homosexuals he himself created, allows slavery, punishes women, and kills his own son to show us that he "forgives" us. I believe in a god that has been the indirect cause of countless wars and deaths, and whose supporters feel they have the right to force everyone to bend to his rules. I believe that a true rational look shows that there is less to believe in then most people think.

God creates humans. God gives them free will. To then blame God for the inappropriate use of that free will is absurd.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: God.

I believe that a true rational look shows that there is less to believe in then most people think.

And, judging by your almost nonexistent knowledge of Christianity, you haven't even given God one of those.

a god that claims to love everyone then attacks the homosexuals he himself created

Do tell how God "attacks" homosexuals.

allows slavery, punishes women

Or any of these.

and kills his own son to show us that he "forgives" us.

Then tell me (since you claim to have taken a "true rational look" at God and what he stands for), why your extensive (but I'll accept a little more than minimal) scriptural knowledge suggests that God was some sort of murderer in this situation, and didn't actually forgive our sins.

God did it for the lulz, mirite?

See what I'm doing, here? I'm giving a "true rational look" at your statements. Your claims are wholly fabricated and devoid of critical thought.

--Guido

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