God.

[Mr_Tumness]

Re: God.

what i would like to know is how time was created, because if there was a god then there would be time, but he can't create time if he's living because time already exists if he does, am i right?

[devonin]

Re: God.

Well, that makes a few assumptions (unprovable naturally) about the nature of God and the cosmos.

If this universe is one of many, then a being can come from outside it and thus not be effected by our issues of time and causality, but hey, can't prove either way, so it is all supposition.

[Mr_Tumness]

Re: God.

Oh my god man! I'm very, very sorry to hear this. I'll keep her, you, and your family in my prayers. Just put your trust in Jesus, ask him, and he will help.

This guy believes in god, jesus. but other people don't think this was such as me....

I don't know why i JUST did that, i look like a retard posting this

[devonin]

Re: God.

I've always been interested in the psychological basis for prayer.

I mean, properly devout christians generally ought to be of the impression that God gave free will to humanity to do with what they please, and that for God to directly interfere in the acts of man would be to subordinate our free will to Him, and yet they are constantly praying asking for intercession, for direct effecting of the world...

As famously defined in the Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce:

Pray (Verb): To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled on behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy.

[Master_of_the_Faster]

Re: God.

If that was the case that there was a Christian God and that praying for his help to directly was useless, wouldn't the only reasonable time for prayer be during a funeral considering the person who died would be in the hands of the god? I would to think that any other prayers would be time consuming and useless for the advancement of humans. The only reason that I would see to pray is to increase your own self-esteem, but that's about it.

[devonin]

Re: God.

If you are judged based on your life at the moment of your death, what is asking god nicely to reconsider going to do for morale? if repenting on your deathbed actually worked, the world would fall apart.

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

By the way, is Hayatewillown derailing your comment walls?

[Kilroy_x]

Re: God.

if repenting on your deathbed actually worked, the world would fall apart.

Well, the counter for this is to argue that the world is necessarily chaotic in the first place and that it's only the grace of god that offers salvation, so that's not exactly...

[devonin]

Re: God.

Well I meant more if disengenuous repenting on your deathbed did anything.

That is the usual cop-out for such things, that you can just repent on your death-bed and the dopey all-forgiving God gives you a clean slate, huzzah! Without ever stopping to consider that if God exists as per the bible (And thus is all-knowing) you certainly can't -fool- him into thinking you've repented.

[hayatewillown]

Re: God.

By the way, is Hayatewillown derailing your comment walls?

Off topic. How about we keep this in a PM?

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

Off topic. How about we keep this in a PM?

First off, the guys aren't even paying attention.

Second off, topics can drift for a while, but if the initial purpose is still being served, it eventually has to goe back to the initial purpose, which, by the way, was being served before you posted.

Third off, since you seem to be such a man of God when you're crapping up our walls and you're posting here again, why don't you join our discussion?

[jewpinthethird]

Re: God.

the internet is for arguing

>:0

[purebloodtexan]

Re: God.

>:0

Either she/he derailed your wall as well or you read mine.

[Reach]

Re: God.

Just because there is no proof -for- does not mean you can conclusively state that it does not exist.

You're right. But we can reject the claim, much like you could reject my claim about an invisible monkey in my room if I don't show you evidence.

God is not immune to this logic just because a lot of people believe in him.

[devonin]

Re: God.

I can state that your claim has no evidence and thus choose to not -believe- it, but I can't state with 100% certainty that it is wrong.