Smoking

[The_Q]

What's Supersize Me? And why am I wrong?

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[AniamL]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521/

Apparently it's a pretty good documentary.

[themanwithsauce]

To back up the fact that smokers can quit with willpower, ill give an example-

my dad smoked for over 20 years and actually enjoyed it for a while. But when I was born my mom tried to get him to quit for my own health so I wouldnt pick up on the bad habit (and to avoid second hand smoke because hes my dad so i was going to be around him quite often).

he failed but then again, he didnt really want to quit that badly. When my brother was born about 7 years later, he decided that he had to quit then or risk suffering more serious health problems than the shortage of breath and occasional bad cough. He made an actual effort this time and with support from all of his family and friends and some help from niccorette finally quit and he didnt have severe withdrawls like some people do. he was really quite lucky on that part but what's important is that he quit.

Keep in mind: he's an average joe working as an auto mechanic, not rich, smoked about half a pack a day, all of hids friends at work smoked, and most of his 10 brothers smoked as well. Despite these many influences he still quit and actually caused some of the others in his workplace to quit as well.

I just figured this thread needed a little positive encourage ment to any smokers that WANT to quit. Those who don't will never quit and others can't make them. End of story

[JurseyRider734]

hund says...

Also, weed? COME ON, half of you guys smoke weed. There is nothing wrong with it, sh*t, no has died from weed, so why is it bad? exactly.

So I guess that doesn't count all of the people who drive while high on marijuana, and crash into people killing themselves AND the others? Good job buddy, you're a first class idiot.


Anyways, there's this place called "Smoker's Corner" at our high school and it really pisses me off. I mean seriously, and they do it right infront of a cop car to piss him off. I'm straight edge, i've never touched a drug and i have never dranken alcohol, so when i see these young kids there smoking cigarettes before school, at lunch, and after school, it really really pisses me off. Seriously, these kids get off to a bad start and will end up regretting it. Why can't they just make the right choices?


What @#)*$&@#$ idiots.

[The_Q]

Ok, I know I just promoted smoking as an economy booster (the taxes on it do jack sh*t, folks, especially when you know where the money goes). I guess I can also explain why people shouldn't smoke as an individual choice.

Basically, the same reasons there are to smoke are the reasons not to. The money that goes all over to aid the smokers health comes from somewhere, normally the smoker. I, personally, am cheap. I don't want to spend time and money smoking and trying to stay healthy. Then if it's MJ you have to spend time and money to avoid cops, keep the smell down, not look too stupid...

Basically, the costs outweigh the benefits. Why do people do it then? If not doing it was better than doing it, no one would even bother smoking. But I guess the benefits are always equal or more plentiful than the costs in some peoples eyes. I'll never know and I don't think I'll ever know firsthand. I'll just keep my theory about cost-benefit and be happy.

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[jewpinthethird]

hund says...

Also, weed? COME ON, half of you guys smoke weed. There is nothing wrong with it, sh*t, no has died from weed, so why is it bad? exactly.

So I guess that doesn't count all of the people who drive while high on marijuana, and crash into people killing themselves AND the others? Good job buddy, you're a first class idiot.

Yes, people have been under the influence and crashed their cars and whatnot up all good, but it is the same story for those who drink and drive. Alcohol is just as bad, if not worse since drinking is basically poisoning your body. But the fact is marijuana, by itself, has never killed anyone.

[zildjian133]

Actually the number of people that smoked marijuana and drove and crashed and killed someone is 1/150th the number of people who drink and drive and kill 2 or more people. I forgot where I got that fact but I'll find it again and put it here. Anyway theres like so many people who die because of alcohol, tobacco, and LEGAL Drugs its stupid. And theres like so little deaths with illegal drugs and marijuana I don't really know what the government is fighting in the drugs against war. Drugs have taught an entire generation of kids the metric system.

EDIT: Oh yeah smoking is stupid especially tobacco, actually tobacco is just stupid.

[Cenright]

If someone smoked marijuana as much as other people smoked regular cigarettes, you see that they would have the same problem. They would also have extra liver problems because of the liver having to work harder to clean contaminants. The same is with alcohol. It it isn't truely bad, but when combined with the loss of judgement that comes with it when drunk in excess, it becomes a problem. Over time though, too much liquor ruins the liver.

[jewpinthethird]

With a cigarette, one smokes about 4 grams of tobacco. When someone wants to get high, they usually smoking much less. And some of the smartest people I have met smoke marijuana. So, idiots who smoke marijuana were idiots way before they started.

[Kilgamayan]

Exerpt from a problem set recently assigned in my Mechanics class:

"A helicopter that commutes between an airport and city is ascending with a velocity of 19.6 m/s and is 58.8 m above the ground. Because federal regulations prohibit smoking on the aircraft, one of the passengers decides at that instant to step outside for a smoke. How long will it take for the passenger to hit the ground?"

Irrefutable proof that smoking kills.

For the record, the guy lasted 6 seconds before he went splat against the pavement. And he was 58.8 m in the air. Odds are you're touching the ground right now, or are at least really close to it - imagine how fast you would die.

[spartan05]

"A helicopter that commutes between an airport and city is ascending with a velocity of 19.6 m/s and is 58.8 m above the ground. Because federal regulations prohibit smoking on the aircraft, one of the passengers decides at that instant to step outside for a smoke. How long will it take for the passenger to hit the ground?"

Irrefutable proof that smoking kills.

That's like the guy who stepped outside to smoke a cigarette and died when a tree fell on him.

[The_Q]

This is totally pointless but, I got post 101!

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[suicidalmuskrat]

marijuana is not bad...i don't do it because it costs too much, but it isn't bad...and if it weren't for it our culture, it would make much more sense to have alcohol banned and marijuana legalized...but because alcohol is so instilled in our society, it will never happen...eventhough it should

[DonCasablanca]

OMG WTF???!

Hay all,

I'm a preteen. I took an economics course once. Everyone around me is totally ignorant.

I mean, its SOO obvious that smoking is retarted, so retarted smokers should have their legs broken and their testacles ripped from their scrotums with chopsticks. WHY CANT THEY STOP!!!???

Everyone's always like "civil liberties are the foundation of our society" and "our government has no right to constrain its citizens' choices of lifestyle" and "did you just say chopsticks".

Come on! Nicotine just like relaxes you or something! JUST EAT SOME CHOCOLATE OMG WTF!!!

I wish everyone was just aware of the irrefutable evidence of the harm smoking does to oneself and others, and then over, say, thirty years, society's attitude toward smoking changed drastically. Like if before it was automatically an acceptable activity, anywhere, but then later, smoking indoors was nearly universally unacceptable.

But I mean, people probably didn't do exactly that in the last three decades, naturally, without any restriction of civil liberties.

So we should probably deny smokers healthcare, and demand why they just don't quit, because its not that hard1!!111 Why stay within the bounds of the Constitution and decency when we can just deny people the right to choose to smoke or not!

If only society had its own mechanism to discourage an unhealthy activity ... like ... access to information about the activity, and the rational free will of its constituents. I mean, that would be like the whole point of democracy ... too bad we have to ban smoking.

And rip smokers' testacles from their scrotums. With chopsticks.




Yeah, both the "critical" and the "thinking" seem to be absent from this forum. Way to demonstrate even the slightest understanding of civil rights.

[The_Q]

If you really took an economics course, you'd know you were wrong. The only disadvantage to yourself is a weakended immune system. The benefits to society are far greater. Smoking HELPS the economy by causing smokers to become addicted and get ill, thus making them pay a whole hell of a lot to everyone else. In general everyone is happy as the smoker gets his smokes and the doctor gets his yacht. Happiness is what economics is all about, learn it, know it, don't deny it.

Another thing, as Squeek would gladly point out, you're grammar is horrendous. As I would point out, your ideals and logic are both fantastic and terrific (and look up the base words for that and figure it out. It's not a compliment.) Use something called evidence to back up your claims. It really isn't that hard.

Back on topic, why stay within the bounds of the Constitution? Good question. I say screw it, it's messing up my capitalism! #$^* government...but that's another thread.

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