Smoking

[Kefit]

Smoking is just one of the many ways that the world proves that people are stupid. I mean we go through class after class in school telling us exactly why smoking is stupid and how it is going to kill you, and nevertheless, millions of kids begin smoking anyway. What the fuck is wrong with these kids?

Anyway, I always felt that one of the worst part about smoking is the smell that gets into EVERYTHING around you. I have a lot of friends who smoke, and while I try to keep some distance from them when they bring out the cigerettes, sometimes its not possible. And after sitting in the smoke for just a little while, my clothes smell. I smell. Worst of all, my hair smells (I'm quite sensitive towards my hair). Its horrible. I really don't understand how smokers can stand having each and every one of there possessions smelling like that, let along themselves. My friend's grandma has one of the most beautiful houses I have ever seen, yet when I walk inside I can barely breath since the smell is so bad (she has smoked in that house her entire life).

Gah. I'm so glad that smoking is banned indoors in almost every public place where I live.

[DJ_Rider]

*looks around..... Not many smokers in this thread. Sorry for trying to create a debate :P

[GuidoHunter]

My grandmother died from smoking, as did many others in his family.

Interesting.

Fuck.

My grandmother actually died from smoking, but my grandfather smokes, too, as do (and did) many people in his family.

--Guido

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[BluE_MeaniE]

I agree with your (Anti's) ideas but not your plan to get rid of smoking.
Now, I hate smoking. Yeah, like some people mentioned, the smell gets everywhere, and secondhand smoking kills. So it's more than a nuisance

But the fact is, not everyone has the willpower to get over it. They started smoking, they made a mistake, and now they're addicted. They often realize that mistake now. I've known people who wanted to quit, but said they can't. And while you say that's bullshit, the fact is, instead of punishing those who smoke, I think it's better to try to help people not to smoke. A plan to help people quit and stop people from starting, I think, would be better than a plan to punish those with cancer, so to speak.

But! On the other hand, the fact of the matter is that "my" plan is already being done. Children are taught not to smoke, and there are tons of anti-smoking commercials, ads, and other anti-smoking 'movements.' Now, they aren't giving out free nicotine patches, but nonetheless...

Sheesh...how many times did I say "fact" in my post

[NaOTa4231]

i agree smoking is really dumb. about the legislation thing, that would never pass.

[snubbles]

i am a smoker, i hate being addicted to it but there isnt much i can do about it. i guess i could quit if i really wanted to but it is hard. about the idea of refusing people the right medical attention that they need YOU ARE A RETARD!!!
people should be able to smoke if they want to. but i do think that they need to have more restrictions on where you can do it. because i know that people dont like the smell of cigarettes it is nasty. i iknow that in several cities that are in minnesota you cant smoke in bars and resturaunts. but to completely strip people of thier right to smoke is irrational and to take away the right to recieve medical care if they did it to themselves they should be able to pay for the care they had. i know that this sounds like a bunch of crap because i myself am a smoker. but i still know what i am doing to myself and i know other people dont want to deal with the burdens that they bring.

[Chrissi]

I hate smoking, and I agree with the "getting over it yourself" thing.

I used to think I couldn't stop biting my nails. For as long as I can REMEMBER, like literally my whole life, I've bit my nails. I was probably about 3 when I started. I have no idea why. I have really thin weak nails now, but I've stopped biting my nails a few months ago. I did try to stop once before but it only lasted a year. Hopefully this time it lasts longer. I'm doing better this time.. I have very few urges.

I do however still pick my toenails. At least I dont' bite them :\ I need to stop that too. argh.

You just have to figure out what makes you do it less. For me, it's keeping my nails trimmed to a short length that doesn't bother me. At first I made the mistake of letting them grow out long, that just made me bite all over again... but if I keep them trimmed, the urge to bite dies down. I'm letting them grow a tiny bit longer with each passing month. I've been doing this since Valentine's Day (yes, corny... but it was a gift... :P)

[ayanepuck]

I used to bite my nails, then one day I just stopped. I do not think I can honestly give anyone a reason as to why or how, but I did. It is nuts.

[Anticrombie0909]

But the fact is, not everyone has the willpower to get over it. They started smoking, they made a mistake, and now they're addicted.

Which is why, as part of future legislation, government sanctioned addiction therapy and mediation would be available as part of Medicare. No point in telling people they can't smoke and not helping them. That's what this whole thing is about- helping people. Cause I can freakin' promise you that if you're faced with a certain death wish, you're not gonna smoke, and you're gonna try your damnest to quit.

i am a smoker, i hate being addicted to it but there isnt much i can do about it.

Here's an idea- you could quit. There ya go. You could get therapy, you could chew nicorette, you could even go cold turkey. But you're not going to do any of those because it's easier to say "well, I'm weak, I can't handle it." Bullshit. Anybody can quit. It's just a matter of how much you want to.

about the idea of refusing people the right medical attention that they need YOU ARE A RETARD!!!
people should be able to smoke if they want to.

First of all, no they shouldn't. Secondhand smoke is worse for others than the actual smoke you inhale. So you're hurting everyone around you, and stinking up the place as well. Secondly, even if you only did it in the privacy of your own home, you're pretty much guarenteed to get cancer. So by smoking, you're also wasting federal tax money, money that came from non-smoking citizens like me. I know that I sure as hell don't want that 7.5% of Medicare tax taken off my paycheck just so you can get a lung removed. You want to pay for it? Go right ahead. But then we delve back into the whole human rights thing, and how the rich shouldn't be above the poor.

Death is a wonderful equalizer. To me, if you smoke, you die. It's a death wish. And I don't think that should matter if you're rich, poor, black, white, gay, straight, or anything else. Death is death. Deal with it.

[flypie743]

i hate being addicted to it but there isnt much i can do about it. i guess i could quit if i really wanted to but it is hard.

It is obviously hard to quit once you are addicted, but like Anti said if you really want to then you can. There are a lot of things to help you quit, too. I think that saying that is is "hard" (which it is) is just an excuse to not quit. Everyone knows it is hard, but you could say that anything is hard. I mean would you give yourself a reason to skip a test because it is supposed to be hard? That is similar to a smoker saying that "I'm not going to even try to quit because it will be hard". I think anyone can quit if they at least try. A lot of things in life are hard to stop and hard to overcome, but if you don't even try to overcome those problems (smoking being one of them), and then you make up an excuse because you have your mind set to the fact that you can not quit or overcome the problem. Smokers just need to set their mind to it that they are going to quit and get some help. If you try hard enough and don't give lame excuses of why you can't do something because it is "hard" then I think that many people can overcome problems, one of the problems being smoking.

[NaOTa4231]

some people just smoke to release tension. every1 does something to release tension and some people choose smoking and then its very hard for them to stop.

[Lihttle]

And that applies for Marijuana.

there is nothing wrong with weed. everybody says oh it gives u cancer and sh1t like that. but it doesnt. there is no proven record that anybody has gotten cancer from weed.

[Chrissi]

It kills brain cells and renders you impaired to drive; it's a lot like alcohol in those ways.

That's about all I know about it aside from the obvious "It gets you high" thing.

I would do marijuana a million times before I ever tried a cigarette. Marijuana has a point. You get high. Cigarettes have no point, and they're worse for you. Strange that they're legal and pot isn't. And just think about how much money the government gets from smoking.. they could try to convert that over to pot. Legalize marijuana, then delegalize cigarettes, charge taxes on pot. They could put up laws similar to those of alcohol but obviously a bit different.

[snubbles]

But you're not going to do any of those because it's easier to say "well, I'm weak, I can't handle it." Bullshit.

anti i think there is a difference between week minded and weak willed. I can admit that there is a fine line between the two. i want to quit. the thing is that i obviously dont want it bad enough because i would have done it a long time ago.
and sorry for calling you a retard that was kinda immature on my part

[Nightstar]

What I think they should do is this; Absolutely NO advertising for cigarettes/alcohol/tobacco/weed/ etc. A $10 tax on every pack of cigarettes. No smoking in public EVER! in your own home, or in a private club or something.I don't care if you smoke, just keep it away from everyone else. Legalize all drugs, using a legal importing system, and have rediculous taxes on all of it. Same intoxication/driving rules as alcohol apply, or perhaps worse. A smoker/drug user gets negative priority on the organ needed list thing.

The idea is that I don't believe it to be MORALY wrong to use these things, and it is definately within our rights to do so, but if someone wants to do it, they have to pay the penalties.
This would also be a huge boon to our economy, and to the agricultural economy of all the drug producing countries, as well as facilitating the end to numerous wars.

Imagine if all the bilions of dollars we are spendingto maintain the drug war were suddenly not needed anymore, and we started MAKING money, instead of spending it.

In the end, most of the people who do those things die, and there are alot less new users, it becomes unprofitable to produce these drugs, and it dies down. Thus, we have a sudden boom of money, then it slows to a trickle, but we never need to spend billions a year again on stopping the importing.

Yup, I think everyone wins with my plan...