pregnancy help...

[GuidoHunter]

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Seriously, what a stupid statement.

Agreed.

Crazy anti-abortionists.

Wait, what? How about you don't consider the stupid arguments and challenge what I have to say.

Only someone being intellectually dishonest would say that a fetus "could" have life. There is no potential; there only IS life there.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Badguin]

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So, you think the saving of one life is cause for ruining others? Wouldn't you give up your life to save 100 people, or even 10 people? Think about the two options carefully.

Save one life, potentially ruin two or more.

Prevent the start of one life, preserve the opportunity of better lives for one or more. Worst case scenario: one ruined life.

Now, I'm not going to try to start the "is it alive or not" argument. Just remember that there is a chance that the fetus is not technically "alive" yet. So, you may not be killing anything. You can't kill something that isn't alive, and then it won't ever know the difference anyway.

I would give up my life. Not the life of my child.
Anyway, the whole 'is it alive' is stupid. Of course it's alive. But is it yet sentient, is it yet human? That is the big question between pro and anti-abortionists.

Like I said, it's her choice, I'm not one to tell people not to get abortions.
Especially since I'm not a woman.

And, the worst case scenario for aborting a child is: Many ruined lives.

Why? (I"m not going to be stupid and go LOL THE WOMAN CAN GET SAD!?)
Post-abortion complications. The woman can and may very well die, just like the risk of giving birth.

And this will ruin not just the would-have-been-child, but the woman's life, and her immediate friends and family.

[JurseyRider734]

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I'm sure a lot of you would think differently if you had or will experience childbirth and raising a child. It's easy for a guy, they can just walk away before the baby is even born.

[Wilkin]

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Going back to the age difference issue for a second, I believe the point that was trying to be made was that the maturity difference between an 18-year old and a 14-year old vs. a 38-year old and a 34-year old would look something like:



Thus, it's saying closer the maturity, the more accepted by society the relationship is, which would make those large gaps in relationships of people under 20 seem that much more drastic.

[MalReynolds]

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It's crazy - Jordan's experience with abortion mirrors my own. Just like Michael Scott's experience with prison was shockingly similar to the time I spent in prison, eating gruel and my own hair.

[JurseyRider734]

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I think the chart is a little TOO drastic. We don't know the maturity of the girl (she could be very mature, or very immature) and we don't know the maturity of the guy (he could be either as well). I went out with a 17 year old when I was 14, and the maturity level was pretty uhh...equal.

[Wilkin]

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Well, yeah, the chart in itself is a generalization, which was bound to happen with this subject. And being drawn up in two minutes.

And of course, the chart's based off of a completely biased standpoint, such as someone's friends or parents. This chart would apply to the stereotypical parent's reaction when they find out their 14-year old daughter is going out with a 17-year old guy.

While objectively, a 16-year old could have the same maturity of a 22-year old, I'm merely saying that the chart represents the (biased) views that society as a whole holds.

[banditcom]

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I hate when people equate the life of an unformed fetus to that of a living, breathing human being. X(

[dontcareaboutmyid]

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Every person here should watch the movie Kids. Sure made me scared of ****ing.
For a good two weeks

You need to start lurking in the gb, we need you to get posting in there asap good sir.

Not true, I would never leave my child and would be traumatized to death if I ever did. That saying, I'd rather have it aborted before any of it happens so I wouldn't have to go through that ordeal.

yes, but last checked you didn't have a uterus

[nforcer06164]

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And, the worst case scenario for aborting a child is: Many ruined lives.

Why? (I"m not going to be stupid and go LOL THE WOMAN CAN GET SAD!?)
Post-abortion complications. The woman can and may very well die, just like the risk of giving birth.

And this will ruin not just the would-have-been-child, but the woman's life, and her immediate friends and family.

So, death ruins people's lives, huh? Hahahaha. Nice. Death is part of life, buddy. People die. It can be expected or unexpected. Other people live on. Whether or not you let somebody else's death ruin your own life is up to you. Stop being so close-minded.

[beatmouse]

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You need to start lurking in the gb, we need you to get posting in there asap good sir.

Why's that?

[kentbball]

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Might as well move this to ct or something and make it a thread about abortion... cause i basically got the response i wanted.

Thanks for all of the help guys it really, really got me thinking and I'm glad that you guys actually gave your honest opinion instead of saying what I wanted to hear. I used some of your ideas and things seem to be turning out ok. She is starting to think about what she's going to do more and I'm sure most of the reason was from me talking with her and your guys' ideas. Everybody reasured me and I'm grateful for that. Thank you.

[Kilgamayan]

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Good, now someone can abort this topic.

[DarkProdigy]

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Or allow CT to adopt it.

[Wilkin]

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Or we could keep this topic and have Chit Chat drop out of the forums, giving the topic the attention, and while we keep saying it's going to rejoin, everyone else knows it probably never will, and everyone's going to wonder what would have happened if this topic was never created.