Happy 420!!!

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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but of course everything that is against drug use is just "propaganda" to you, so of course you won't listen.

No, not all of it. But a lot of it is, yes.

Also, just because anyone can write to wikipedia doesn't make it a bad source. People you don't know write other websites and conduct studies also.

The philosophy of responsible drug use—which applies to alcohol, tobacco, and medical products as much as to any other drugs—asserts that to use drugs responsibly one must adhere to the following principles:

Understanding and educating oneself on the effects and legality of the drug being consumed

Weighing accurate dosages and taking other precautions to reduce the risk of overdose

Taking the time to chemically test all drugs being consumed to determine purity and strength

Not driving, operating heavy machinery, or otherwise being directly or indirectly responsible for the safety or care of another person while intoxicated

Having a trip sitter when taking a drug with which one is not familiar

Being honest with others about drug use

Not attempting to trick or persuade anyone to use a drug they are not willing to use

Not allowing drug use to overshadow other aspects of one's life

Being morally conscious of the source of their drugs

If you can't accept that by following those rules, people aren't destroying their lives or harming society, then there is either seriously something wrong with you, or you are, as I said, blindly unwilling to accept that your original point isn't completely right.

I'm not hurting your by smoking weed, and I am certainly not destroying my life. Deal.

[sertman]

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No, not all of it. But a lot of it is, yes.

Also, just because anyone can write to wikipedia doesn't make it a bad source. People you don't know write other websites and conduct studies also.

I don't think you could have made a more dumbass statement.

Any old shmuck can edit wikipedia and say whatever the hell they want. The people who conduct studies are ones with medical degrees and PH.Ds and have years of experience in the medical field. That's why they're RELIABLE SOURCES, not PROPAGANDA.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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Any old shmuck can edit wikipedia and say whatever the hell they want. The people who conduct studies are ones with medical degrees and PH.Ds and have years of experience in the medical field. That's why they're RELIABLE SOURCES, not PROPAGANDA.

Just because someone has a PhD doesn't mean they're not feeding you bullshit. Propaganda generally comes from what appears to be a reliable source, and is usually put into place by the government which will do what they can to scare people into doing things that they don't want you to do. Most big anti-drug sites are actually run in the back by the government.

[EDIT - Also, no matter who wrote that wikipedia article, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever in this case, as it's not presenting medical facts or anything, it's presenting the general set of a responsible drug user, and whoever wrote it doesn't change that list of why thousands and thousands of responsible drug users generally do. I and MANY others use drugs responsibly, there are many communities you can easily find on the internet based around it, and you can't deny that they exist based on the fact that anyone could have written the wikipedia article for it]

By the way, it seems like you're under the impression that we're supposed to be yelling at each other like children. I'm trying to be assertive, quit textually charging like a raging dickhead and discuss the matters at hand with me.

My point is that there is nothing wrong with me or anyone else responsibly smoking bud.
Do you even know what being high actually IS? Like, what it literally does.

[jewpinthethird]

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Hey, I've smoked Marijuana. I drink two shots of tequila about every other night. I got to college full time. I work everyday after school. I'm passing all my classes. Last semester I made the Dean's List.

So am I irresponsible?

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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Hey, I've smoked Marijuana. I drink two shots of tequila about every other night. I got to college full time. I work everyday after school. I'm passing all my classes. Last semester I made the Dean's List.

So am I irresponsible?

QFE

I smoke marijuana most nights, and I am a musician. I spend most of my time listening to music or experimenting with rhythms, melodies, or sounds. One can percieve more when stoned, so I often smoke a bit before I listen to music. I am fascinated with the arts. I never put my life or anyone else's life into jeopardy when I am lit up. I am a very rational and logical person. I make advanced marks on all standardized tests.

I am irresponsible?

ps

Do you even know what being high actually IS? Like, what it literally does.

[sertman]

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Just keep thinking that the world is just a conspiricy to corrupt the youth of America and feed them bull****, Rairai. Surely you know more than them, right? Surely you can see through the bull**** that men and women went through years and years of college to get their masters degrees and their PHD's just to feed you bull**** tell you, right? And to answer your last question, THC just goes the parts of your brain that have to do with thought, pleasure, sensory and time perception, and movement, and decreases it's ability.

And jewpin, yes, you are being irresponsible by smoking marijuana. Just because it may be the only irresponsible thing you do doesn't mean it isn't irresponsible. The same thing applies to Rairai as well.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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Just keep thinking that the world is just a conspiricy to corrupt the youth of America and feed them bull****, Rairai. Surely you know more than them, right?

Actually I never said that and you're just being an irrational dick and taking what I said to an extreme. Saying that there is a lot of propaganda, which there unquestionably is, does not equate to being a conspiracy theorist. There is no question at all that there is a ton of propaganda, especially on subjects like this.

Surely you can see through the bull**** that men and women went through years and years of college to get their masters degrees and their PHD's just to feed you bull**** tell you, right?

Yes, when it makes them more money that way, unquestionably there are people who do so. The government is willing to pay loads. I also never said that people who spew propaganda live for nothing other than to spew propaganda. You're once again immaturely exagerating my statements.

And to answer your last question, THC just goes the parts of your brain that have to do with thought, pleasure, sensory and time perception, and movement, and decreases it's ability.

Flat out fucking incorrect.
THC widens your perception. That's what it does. Simple as that.
You can feel everything at once (your clothes, air around you, your hair), you can hear all the little bits in a complex song without even thinking about it (though if you're into football you're probably into shitty talentless rock music), you can percieve everything in your vision at once, all the signals your getting, etc., the list goes on, to a level you can't even imagine while not under the influence.
It widens the window of what can be thought of and imagined at once, and in NO WAY at all decreases any mental ability.
Unfortunately, truly stupid people will be like "OMG I FEEL FUZZY LOL." That doesn't mean that's all it does.

And jewpin, yes, you are being irresponsible by smoking marijuana. Just because it may be the only irresponsible thing you do doesn't mean it isn't irresponsible. The same thing applies to Rairai as well.

No actually you just said that responsible people never do drugs.

The key word is "if you're responsible"

Responsible people don't do drugs.

Absolute fail; you just defeated yourself.

[sertman]

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I never said you weren't an irresponsible person. Regardless of what you do, if you smoke marijuana, you're an irresponsible person. It would be the same if I, for instance, murdered someone. Even if i got straight A's, did a lot for charity, and whathaveyou, I would still be a murderer, no?

And of course you think marijuana does all that ****. Your perception and thinking processes are distorted, so you may think that that's what occurs, but in reality it isn't the case.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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Oh, and obviously watching TV makes you a lazy person and playing a game of football makes you a jock.

Smoking weed does not automatically make you an irresponsible person. You're being a giant ignoramus by suggesting something so ludicrous. It doesn't change who you are.

And of course you think marijuana does all that ****. Your perception and thinking processes are distorted, so you may think that that's what occurs, but in reality it isn't the case.

No, perception expansion is literally what it does, there is no question about it. That is why some of the world's best thinkers use it, that is why some of the world's most talented artists use it. That's why I can see individual frames in Chris Cunningham videos and hear all the hi-hats in a vsnarz song when I'm high. If you knew what you were talking about, you would know that.
Saying that the effect of TCH isn't perception expention and a widening of the window of what can be comprehended at once is like saying that exlax doesn't make you shit.

Seriously, stop trying to pretend you know shit about something you're so grossly ignorant about.

[Afrobean]

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Haha.

Comparing marijuana to murder.

You should really learn to think for yourself. Just curious, but what is your stance on alcohol, most specifically, if someone drinks very little and is of legal age?

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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ps you're peeing on your own feet.

LOL CLEARLY IT DOESN'T DO WHAT IT CLEARLY DOES CAUSE MY GYM TEACHER TOLD ME IT JUST MAKES YOU DUMB AND MAKES YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE FEELING WHAT IT MAKES YOU FEEL EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE CLEARLY FEELING IT

It's not a deliriant, it's a psychadelic. There is a huge difference. You are really feeling what you are feeling when you're on weed. You aren't really feeling what you are feeling while you're on Datura. Datura is probably the most hardcore drug ever. I'm never doing it.

[sertman]

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"You should really learn to think for yourself" is probably the most common thing that people say to people who don't want to go against the law or against their parents wishes. How about I keep listening to people who know a hell of a lot more than I do, and you keep thinking that you know enough about life and the world as it exists to make your own decisions about what's safe. And my stance on drinking is that it is legal if you are over 21. Have i ever drunk beer or anything that contains alcohol? Yes. Am i an irresponsible person? Yes. I don't deny that I am.

And rairai, how about you stop pulling stuff out of your ass and give me a credible source that backs those statements up.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

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If you think I'm pulling stuff out of my ass and you're not, there is seriously something wrong with this entire discussion.

I'm giving first hand experience, by the way. You've given nothing but bullshit.


Also if you think you're better off just listening to people who you assume are trustworthy, you don't deserve your humanity. I think it's sad that you admit that you don't think for yourself. It's probably why you watch football.

I am quite happy to make my own decisions, thank you. You trying to insult us by saying that we think for ourselves is depressing man. You're peeing on your own feet [more].

It's probably the most common thing that intelligent free-thinkers say, because it's true. If you don't think for yourself you are a worthless sheep.

[Snapps]

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yeah k rairai has done it all dont be frontin

[sertman]

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Your "first hand experience" means **** when you told me that it was a scientific fact that marijuana enhances your perception and all that other ****, especially when it was done under the influence of mind-altering chemicals such as THC. I've provided plenty of sources for my information, and if you want to think that they're propaganda for whatever reason, then you can keep "thinking for yourself" as you please. And believe it or not, i do think for myself. I form my own opinions, and make sure that i back each and every opinion up with facts before i present them. You still haven't provided sources, and i'd like to see you try to do so with CREDIBLE sources (not **** that cites stuff from the 70's and 80's, when marijuana was much less potent)