Happy 420!!!

[Afrobean]

Re: Happy 420!!!

haha

This should be in the garbage bin.

Because of the general content of sertman's posts.

[scorpio1690]

Re: Happy 420!!!

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Happy 420!!!

Marijuana was NOT less potent in the 70s and 80s, by the way.

And I don't have to link to a study in order to state the clear and the obvious.
If you want a credible source for the effects of weed, www.erowid.org
Erowid is legit and ubiased, and if you can't accept what you read there, you can't accept anything.

You're starting to get ridiculous, sertman.

ps you'll notice fairly quickly that it's listed as "Intoxicant; Stimulant; Psychedelic; Depressant," not "Deliriant"

EDIT: thanks scorpio, beat me to the punch

[sertman]

Re: Happy 420!!!

Erowid's no different from any source that I gave you, except that it supports your point of view. So how are my sources propaganda and how is your source credible?

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Happy 420!!!

Erowid is legit. It is common knowledge that erowid is legit.

Erowid is unbiased.
Erowid does NOT support our side, by saying that it is clear that you didn't go through and read the information. Erowid does not support any side, and does not condone drug use, it tells it like it is.
.gov sites and sites monitored by the government will support whatever side the government wants you to believe.

Erowid is probably the only truley reliable source that has been brought up in this entire discussion.

[sertman]

Re: Happy 420!!!

I've been through erowid. The problem with erowid is that it has such an unbelievable amount of information that it's very easy to miss the dangerous information unless you have a medical degree. And while I understand that studying the positive effects of drugs is professional suicide, the fact that a lot of it is from anonymous people still shreds a doubt on it's bias and credibility.

[Tokzic]

Re: Happy 420!!!

How can a discussion last so long and yet go nowhere?

Oh, right, it's a difference of opinion issue, meaning it's pointless.

Especially since all that's happening is argument about legitimate sources.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Happy 420!!!

All of the information in the main vault is verified. There is information written by various people throughout the site, in the essays and experience reports and such, those are generally reliable, but theoretically could technically be unreliable, which is apparently enough for you to say "NO THATS NOT TRU ITZ BAD"

The main vault is credible, look at the material on there.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Happy 420!!!

How can a discussion last so long and yet go nowhere?

Oh, right, it's a difference of opinion issue, meaning it's pointless.

Especially since all that's happening is argument about legitimate sources.

Except that the fact that people can smoke marijuana and be responsible isn't an opinion, and that's all I'm trying to say.

edit: oh yeah, and that it has some good uses and that if it didn't have good uses then smart people wouldn't do it

[lord_carbo]

Re: Happy 420!!!

Except that the fact that people can smoke marijuana and be responsible isn't an opinion, and that's all I'm trying to say.

That's all you were trying to say a page or so back. Looks like it strayed back to an argument about biased sources again. How odd.

The truth is, this won't go anywhere, anytime, so it's better off being locked.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Happy 420!!!

I didn't say it didn't stray, it's just... ugh, how can it be so hard to accept that some pot-smokers are actually responsible and that not everything you've been told is true?

[Afrobean]

Re: Happy 420!!!

That's all you were trying to say a page or so back. Looks like it strayed back to an argument about biased sources again. How odd.

This is less a real argument in my opinion. It seems like it has become a reason to laugh at people.

The truth is, this won't go anywhere, anytime, so it's better off being locked.

This may be true, but my guess would be that none of the staff has been checking this thread. I assume it'd have been locked a few pages back otherwise.

PS lock requests are totally against the rules haha

[Tokzic]

Re: Happy 420!!!

I didn't say it didn't stray, it's just... ugh, how can it be so hard to accept that some pot-smokers are actually responsible and that not everything you've been told is true?

It isn't hard to accept. It's true.

I think sert's the one arguing that?

[lord_carbo]

Re: Happy 420!!!

I didn't say it didn't stray, it's just... ugh, how can it be so hard to accept that some pot-smokers are actually responsible and that not everything you've been told is true?

Well, for one, I will agree that there are responsible pot-smokers just like there are responsible drinkers and ect.

Second, maybe not everything you've told us is true, as well. I wouldn't doubt that because you make it seem like marijuana is from the fountain of youth or something.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Happy 420!!!

Well, for one, I will agree that there are responsible pot-smokers just like there are responsible drinkers and ect.

Exactly, that's my point, and that's exactly what he was saying is absolutely false.

Second, maybe not everything you've told us is true, as well. I wouldn't doubt that because you make it seem like marijuana is from the fountain of youth or something.

It's very possible that I may have theoretically been wrong at some point, byt for the most part I've given very solid points.
It's also true that I am fascinated with it's effects, so I apologize if sometimes it seems ridiculous.