Internet Piracy

[Charu]

Re: Internet Piracy

I'm going to pirate a house now.

I'm gonna do it!

[Hakulyte]

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Arrest the internet, all of it, there's a chance someone is a pirate. Burn their house, kill their family. Justice demand retribution!

The question is not wrong or right imo, it's more "what to do about it".

Rules can be changed at any time to adapt marketing system to this and make profit out of it just as much if not more.

Edit: pmuch ninja'd by omega

[devonin]

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Arrest the internet, all of it, there's a chance someone is a pirate. Burn their house, kill their family. Justice demand retribution!

The question is not wrong or right imo, it's more "what to do about it".

It is the question though, because if it's not wrong, the thing to do about it is "nothing" and if it is wrong, THEN you can talk about actions to take.

[omega_grunt666]

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Once again, Its well established as wrong. What do you do about it?

The harm can't be measured, the benefits can. There is no feasible system being proposed that is beneficial to the creator or consumer. On a day to day basis it seems less like a real issue and more like an artifact caused by a system ill suited for todays technology and markets.

[Charu]

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I say if you really want to stop piracy and the like, you're pretty much going to have to put an end to free digital sharing somehow... Good luck with that.

[Dynam0]

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That's why I mentioned that the artists and markets themselves need to develop adaptive business strategies to still be compensated fairly for their products.

[justin_ator]

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Just going to step in and say that I wouldn't know about a butt load of the artists in my iTunes if it wasn't for song compilation torrents where I looked up the artist later because I liked them.

[Arkuski]

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The question is not wrong or right imo, it's more "what to do about it".

I meant to pose this debate in terms of right/wrong

[Kibblre]

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Just going to step in and say that I wouldn't know about a butt load of the artists in my iTunes if it wasn't for song compilation torrents where I looked up the artist later because I liked them.

I've had a similar encounter with games and I know my friends have as well:

Game looks fun, not sure if the cost will be worth it -> pirate game -> "OH SHIT GAME'S FUN" -> buy game -> support developer in other ways (like merch)

[Nullifidian]

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id try harder if you had a more sensical analogy but the bottom line is that comparing physical goods to digital ones is silly and close minded

It's you who is close-minded if you think it's actually about the goods (digital or physical) instead of the idea/skill. It's hardly ever really about the production costs of an item, but about the idea that makes the item. A good painting for example costs very little in terms of material costs (canvas and some paint), but it's not the material that makes it good or worthful. It's the idea and the skill of the painter that makes it good, and that´s what determines the worth. Even if it's then mass-produced (though it does decrease value that way), it's still the idea you're paying for much more than the materials used to produce that copy.


That said though, I pirate a lot of music but mostly because I don't have the money/income to support buying the ever increasing amount of CDs that I want. There will always be people that will never want to buy a thing and are content with rips of music or movies or games, but likewise there are also a lot of people (like me) who will purchase physical CDs (or movies, or videogames) because they enjoy the products AND there are people who didn't plan on buying the product anyway, find out it's really fun and want to support the creators later on (like Kibblre mentioned).

As for digital downloads, I think it's a very convenient way for people to make money off of it because it's much more accessible to buy a 3 dollar digital album than a 12 dollar physical album. The problem with digital downloads for me though is that I feel as though I'm paying for not much more than a couple of bytes, which is kind of contradictory to my previous statement about worth being in the idea but that's just how I feel on an emotional level about it. It's good for anyone else willing to spend their money like that, but I'd rather save up a bit and buy the physical album since it comes with just that little bit of extra (booklet, stickers, flyers w/e). Physical products appeal to me more than a digital product, but that's just me.

[Izzy]

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The problem I have with digital goods is that they often charge the same amount as the physical item. I'm not going to buy a 60 dollar digital download. I'd probably start buying video games if I could buy them all for 5-10 dollar digital downloads. Steam does this sometimes when they are 75% off but that is about it.

The cost to make a new copy for a digital download is little to nothing so I'll continue to pirate digital goods until the prices make sense for what it is. Otherwise I'll just buy a physical copy.

[Nullifidian]

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The problem I have with digital goods is that they often charge the same amount as the physical item. I'm not going to buy a 60 dollar digital download. I'd probably start buying video games if I could buy them all for 5-10 dollar digital downloads. Steam does this sometimes when they are 75% off but that is about it.

The cost to make a new copy for a digital download is little to nothing so I'll continue to pirate digital goods until the prices make sense for what it is. Otherwise I'll just buy a physical copy.

Digital copies of games actually do cost less than the physical products (usually a difference of 10 to 20 dollars (which is likely the production cost of a physical product with licensing etc.)). What you're then paying for is the skill/idea involved in making that product (as in, the actual game itself without any extras like a dvd case and pressed dvd) so that the people who have spent years making that game can eat and pay their rent etc.

[Izzy]

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Sure and if the price was reduced to 5-10 dollars they would likely sell 5-10 times as many copies and have no issues.

As evident of the humble bundles and steam sales.

[popsicle_3000]

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As for digital downloads, I think it's a very convenient way for people to make money off of it because it's much more accessible to buy a 3 dollar digital album than a 12 dollar physical album.

except things like itunes don't let you download CD quality music... I don't buy from there for that reason.

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Re: Internet Piracy

no form of currency in the world = fixing lots of issues