I hope we can all have fun debating for and against internet piracy. I'm really interested to see where everyone's stance is on this, so I can be ultra edgy trole contrarian. But seriously, I think this is a very serious subject we are discussing and I encourage everyone to weigh in.
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arkuski, serious subject, same sentence
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I'd like to be able to look at it like no big deal because all these companies make so much money, but the problem is that when they start losing money they start hurting the little guys that don't make so much money. The big guys at the company have to make their huge salary you know. Nobody else matters.
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Stepmania is Internet Piracy. We're taking songs, stepping it, and releasing files that are on albums!
Piracy!
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Tommy Refenes, programmer of Super Meat Boy:
"As a forward-thinking developer who exists in the present, I realize and accept that a pirated copy of a digital game does not equate to money being taken out of my pocket," Refenes begins.
I like his stance on piracy.
EDIT: This one's a good read too: http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/07/27/is-piracy-goodLast edited by Kibblre; 01-7-2014, 05:28 PM.Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.Comment
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"a pirated copy of a digital game does not equate to money being taken out of my pocket"
This is really what it comes down to in my opinion. "Stealing" means that you are taking something from someone and they can no longer profit from that thing. If you steal a bag of chips from the store, the store can no longer make a profit from those chips and they lose the money that they spent to order the chips to the store. When something is pirated, nothing is lost in that sense. The only thing that is lost is "potential" sales which really means nothing. The creator can still distribute and profit from their creation regardless of how many people pirate it.
I worked at a movie theatre for years and got into unlimited movies (+ a guest!) for free. While I was working there I probably saw 2-3 movies a week. Since I've stopped working there about 3 years ago I've probably seen less than 10 movies that entire time. I only go to the movies now when there is something that I really want to see. The fact is that the only reason I saw those movies is because I got into them for free, I would not have spent money on them otherwise. The same is true of most pirated media I consume. If I had to pay for it, I just wouldn't watch it at all, and if I like it enough, I do pay for it or try to support the franchise in other ways (ie anime figures).Follow my dog on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Riles_puppyComment
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For every person who doesn't pirate unless they know they would never buy it anyway, 100 unemployed teenagers are just pirating every single piece of media they consume ever.
Check how many people pledge 1 cent for humble bundles, and 1 or 0 cents for the 'pay what you want' things you can find around these days.Comment
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Pay-what-you-want only works when you have a strong social web presence and have a product users like love.Comment
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i love set your own prices. always go with the zeroooooo~
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If the person can't afford the content, or doesn't want to pay for it, then no one is really losing money on it. If the product is good, it will sell well despite any amount of pirating going on in the background. That being said I don't fully support it, but there are cases where pirating is actually helpful, like when a game is no longer available on the market or the developer shuts down/stop supporting it.
Sometimes software doesn't have a trial version or the trial version is so limited you can't get a good idea of how well it will work for you. I've used a ton of cracked versions of software for various reasons, and when it turns out its something I'll actually use on a regular basis, I'll support the dev and pay for a legit copy. Without that avenue to try before I buy I probably wouldn't even have given it a second thought and walked off, so at least in this case pirating has made a few people a little bit of money.
My stance on music piracy is about the same, downloading for personal use in Canada is not a crime. If the artist is good I'll buy an album/merch and or go to a concert. Hard to have any sympathy for music copyright when you see ridiculous things like the RIAA suing some stay at home mom for $1.92M over 24 songs. Granted in that case it was a bit of a power user scenario, but I've yet to hear a "damages" quote that wasn't pulled out of some ones ass who has no realistic idea of the actual figures. Oh yeah, if those 105 downloaders didn't have this one mp3 available from you, they probably would of all bought 6 albums a piece and gone to every concert for the rest of the artists career. And named their children after them, and remodeled their house with artist-approved materials. But because they got that one for free, none of that happened. $1,000,000,000,000 plz. The kind of musical piracy that needs to be targeted is people like Will.I.Am.Last edited by omega_grunt666; 01-7-2014, 10:43 PM.
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I pirate so I know what to spend the extremely small amount of money I have on.Comment
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I'm subscribed to Marvel Unlimited, where I can read digital comics on Marvel's website for a yearly fee.
However, as much as they try to keep up by adding comics every week, some older comics are missing from the database. Therefore, I download torrents of any comics they don't have uploaded.
I'm paying them $60 a year for unlimited access to their comics, anyways, so no harm done.
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