SSBM Competitive info.

[Hylian]

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Crazy stuff O_o

I was trying out some different characters today, trying to find a feel for a new character cuz its been awhile since ive played. I was trying out the wave dashing with different charcters. Some can do it rather easily with a nice dash, but i had trouble with characters like marth peach and falco/fox. But still, is it really that useful of a technique to use while playing?

Well think about it. It allows you to move backwards while facing forwards and you can do so much out of it.

Out of a run you can only do so many things.

1. Dash attack.
2. Jump.
3. Crouch
4. Shield

Out of a wavedash you can do anything you could do while standing still. And some characters move faster (Samus/IC's/Luigi) by WDing then when they don't.

[tsugomaru]

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Items are really, REALLY easy to always hit with. In fact, it's pretty bad if you miss.

There's really no skill in it at all. It's just a waste of time.

I must be great at dodging them then, they don't always hit me.

~Tsugomaru

[Bloodhunger539]

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Well think about it. It allows you to move backwards while facing forwards and you can do so much out of it.

Out of a run you can only do so many things.

1. Dash attack.
2. Jump.
3. Crouch
4. Shield

Out of a wavedash you can do anything you could do while standing still. And some characters move faster (Samus/IC's/Luigi) by WDing then when they don't.

Yeah, ice climbers have an awesome wave dash, and i would prolly try to use it with my fighting style, but im not using them right now. Peach however, is alot harder to wave dash with for me, and when i do its not very long at all, seems to me like it would just hinder performance. what do you think?

[MarisaKirisame]

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That just means the item thrower isn't throwing them at the right times or something.

[masterhickle]

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Peach however, is alot harder to wave dash with for me, and when i do its not very long at all, seems to me like it would just hinder performance. what do you think?

Here's my take on it. Rolling is a lot easier to punish than a wavedash. How far each character can roll is set in stone; however, the length of a wavedash is variable. You can increase/decrease the length of the wavedash depending on how far down the control stick is held - if it's held close to straight down, you won't go very far, but if you hold it closer to horizontal, you will go farther.

Wavedashing adds a lot to the mind-game aspect, get as good with it as you can (Works really well if you can mix it in with dash-dancing).

[Hylian]

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Here's my take on it. Rolling is a lot easier to punish than a wavedash. How far each character can roll is set in stone; however, the length of a wavedash is variable. You can increase/decrease the length of the wavedash depending on how far down the control stick is held - if it's held close to straight down, you won't go very far, but if you hold it closer to horizontal, you will go farther.

Wavedashing adds a lot to the mind-game aspect, get as good with it as you can (Works really well if you can mix it in with dash-dancing).

Wavedashing is definitly not the most important technique though. I suggest all of you learn how to l-cancel then shffl correctly. Those are much more important then wavedashing.

[Bloodhunger539]

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the l-cancel is pretty easy to do, it wouldnt take much practice. shffl is a lil harder, fox and falco definitely use it, but it seems other characters dont need to shffl to be amazing, who would need to shffl the most and least?

[Hylian]

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the l-cancel is pretty easy to do, it wouldnt take much practice. shffl is a lil harder, fox and falco definitely use it, but it seems other characters dont need to shffl to be amazing, who would need to shffl the most and least?

Every character needs to know how to shffl except peach beacause she can Float Cancel.

[Bloodhunger539]

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What do you mean by Float Cancel? I've been most confortable with peach the past 2 days, so it would be good to know XD


On side note, How good a character is Roy considered?...jw

[doocku]

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I Could See Your Heart Beating Fast At The Time To Getting High Watching Time Fly You Could Scream To God He Cant Hear You~tupac Ftw~

[tsugomaru]

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That just means the item thrower isn't throwing them at the right times or something.

I'm pretty sure my friend is throwing the items correctly. He's played the game more than I have and he's better than me.

~Tsugomaru

[Hylian]

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What do you mean by Float Cancel? I've been most confortable with peach the past 2 days, so it would be good to know XD


On side note, How good a character is Roy considered?...jw

Float Canceling is using an arieal attack out of your float then hitting the ground. Because you were floating you will have no lag when landing aside from the usualy 4 frames of landing lag.

Roy is considered a bad character. He is low tier. Marth is much much much much better.

[ckj846]

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Just because a character is low tier doesn't mean you can't be good with them. *cough cough* DK.

O_o

[Bloodhunger539]

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lol XD

thats cools thanks. I already knew marth was way better than roy, but i was wondering about roy as a good character to use because i was practicing 1v1 against abunch of different lvl9's with peach, and i totally demolished roy. he didnt kill me once, i ended up KOing him 3 times in a minute, then ko'd him the last time in like 40 seconds it was wild

[Hylian]

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lol XD

thats cools thanks. I already knew marth was way better than roy, but i was wondering about roy as a good character to use because i was practicing 1v1 against abunch of different lvl9's with peach, and i totally demolished roy. he didnt kill me once, i ended up KOing him 3 times in a minute, then ko'd him the last time in like 40 seconds it was wild

You should never use lvl 9's to determin skill.