SSBM Competitive info.

[masterhickle]

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Hahahahaha. I love it when they get angry like this, and have to start calling us gay, and using "OMG," "***," and similar words at the rate they are. It's so fun to watch.

I'll put some actual thought into a reply later, I just woke up, and I've got a graduation party in 3.5hrs.

Edit : I can't ignore this...
Peach's stitch face has a more powerful contact than G&W's #9 sign? No. It doesn't. G&W's #9 sign has the contact of a normal home run bat (not like Ness's)...it can kill at any percent. Peach's stitch face has the contact of your average smash attack.

[Aperon]

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This thread is the reason I don't play anything competetively.

p.s. Items are funny as fuck. I can't imagine how boring the game would be without them.

[slickskater29]

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I can believe you actually mensioned link and peach. Peach's turnips balances the fact that she dies at a low % and can be hit of the stage at a lower %. If you take away the projectiles of Link, Y.Link, and Peach, you have the three worst players in the game.

#1 had to get proof, because im sure you would have said: Nu uh guys, its not a fighting game!

#2 playing with people who regularly go to MLG events.

#3 The odds of pulling a stitch face is extremely low. I main peach and on average, id say i pull one every 2-3 matches. It has the knockback of a smash attack, and does 34% dammage. Its not stronger than G&Ws 9, so actually, its YOU who dosnt know what you are talking about.

#4 We don't use items, so I don't give a **** what kind of strategy there is to using them.

#5=biggest hypocritical post ever.

Also, I might not be as good as Ken and Isai but I play with people such as ChuDat, Tope, The_Doug, O-NO, and more. Yeah, I really suck.

How bad I suck? XD LOL Come here to VB and I'll put $200 on a Money Match, best 3 out of 5, MLG rules (since I know you need them cause you suck) that I'll whoop your ass. I'm that confident. If you are bitching over item use because you suck, I'd love to see how bad you actually are IRL.

Ok, let me get this strait. You play regularly with ChuDat, Tope, Doug, O-NO, and more. All are people who use MLG rules. In the other post, you said we use MLG rules because we suck. So from there, i'm going to say that you must be better than ChuDat, Tope, Doug, O-NO, because they suck. Please, just leave now, you dont know what you are saying anymore.

Heres how I think it went. You played with items on and **** for a long time. Then you played ChuDat, Tope, etc, using their rules (MLG) and probably got 4stocked. So then you whine about, "If there were items id pwn u guyz." Thus, you now hate items because, without items on, you stand no chance against anyone. Whats VB?

#6 Sorry, you're right. There, I'm off his nuts, now its easier for you to blow him.Yea we're tourney fags, but you play with them, so doesn't that make you gay too?

[Aperon]

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This thread is the reason I don't play anything competetively.

I agree. Why are people even still arguing over this? It's not like anyone's trying to change how anyone else plays the game.

[Aperon]

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I agree. Why are people even still arguing over this? It's not like anyone's trying to change how anyone else plays the game.

Well, it's the internet.

[Squeek]

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So you basically admit you choose to nerf your gaming experience (AKA, your fun) just to "fairly" compete.

So, wait, what was the point of video games...again?

I swear, even in competitive sporting events, both teams are having... fun. In races, the contenders are having fun. In contests, the contenders are having fun. In Super Smash Brothers Melee contests NOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN'T DO THAT IT MAKES IT RANDOM

You know what else is random? That one stitch out of place on a baseball that sends it 0.5 degrees off of your intended mark. That one tire from the manufacturer that might fail on your car and send you from first to last. That small indentation in the dirt on the field that causes you to re-think your step, thus missing your timing on your play.

You have the opportunity to remove ALL of the items in this game that have too much of a random factor to be playable, and you still don't do it. Look, an item menu! Look, there are all the items in the game! Wow, we can turn off bob-ombs! And hammers! And starmen!

Amazing!

But no. Let's just make the game boring. All for the sake of winning a few bucks and some assumed glory among nerds.

[slickskater29]

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i have fun without items. You have fun with items. So why are you whining again?

[Squeek]

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Video gaming tournaments are lame and everyone who goes to SSBM tournaments seems to have the idealism that items are the root of all evil and bans them?

[MarisaKirisame]

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So you basically admit you choose to nerf your gaming experience (AKA, your fun) just to "fairly" compete.

So, wait, what was the point of video games...again?

Competitive gaming in a serious fashion is extremely fun.

In fact, competing seriously in general is extremely fun.

Video gaming tournaments are lame and everyone who goes to SSBM tournaments seems to have the idealism that items are the root of all evil and bans them?

They're a waste of time. This is serious competition. It IS fun for people who enjoy serious competition. The ONLY way we'd have "fair" items is if we turned off everything except pretty much Mr. Saturns, Turnips, etc. and put them on very low. In which case, it'd be more of an annoyance because boxes, barrels, etc. would still show up and get in the way.

Really, it's not like they just start throwing water balloons at people while they're trying to run competitively. It's not like people put freakin' boxes in the way of people trying to run from base to base in baseball. Items just get irritating and completely unnecessary.

[ckj846]

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Haha. This made me realize why I never joined a tourney.

First, items are there for a reason. It balances out the game and makes it so that a lower tier character or a lower skilled player can have a chance at beating a higher tier/skilled player. Nintendo didn't want to make a game that was completely unbalanced, and so they implemented items in order to make it much more enjoyable for a BROADER AUDIENCE. You must remember it's a game and whether it ranges from a casual player to a serious player, it is completely irrelevant. Items are part of the game and they don't make it unfair, they do quite the opposite. Sometimes it's better to make things random because it makes the game more interesting and it also makes the players smarter and more skillful. If you see someone with a bomb-omb running at you, it's very easy to just put up your shield or to dodge it. A pokeball? OH NOES just get out of the area effect. All of these excuses that you guys are pulling out of your asses are completely irrelevant because they are all hypothetical situations. It's not like you are running and "Oh! A pokeball in my hand? I BETTER USE IT LAWL" It gives the game a new dimension because now you have to watch your opponent and look out for the environment with the items. And the ability to adapt to different environments is the key to a great gamer. Random? Unfair? To an extent, but a competition always has it's controlled and uncontrolled variables.

I can speak on this part because I'm an athlete. I do swimming and water polo and many things can go wrong. The starting block might be slippery so you slip when you start, your goggles are too tight or too loose so it causes mishaps during the race, the other players don't cut their nails for polo so you have to suck it up throughout the game. This is a true competitor, someone who can adapt to the situation and still come out on top. Stop your whining and get your asses outside and try a REAL competition. Video game tourneys are stupid and pointless, especially if there are limitations. Believe me, taking advantage of the physics of the game is much more "gay" then using what is purposely implemented (and you guys really need to watch your language because you never know who is reading what you're saying. I'm homosexual and the constant reference to sucking each other off and LAWL CUM is very immature and rude).

Get over yourselves. You play a GAME and bitch when something goes wrong. Get your asses outside and play a sport and then come talk to me.

O_o

[MarisaKirisame]

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You're the ones complaining about items being off in the first place. It's not like we made a thread just to say "item players are noobs" or something.

[masterhickle]

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Haha. This made me realize why I never joined a tourney.

First, items are there for a reason. It balances out the game and makes it so that a lower tier character or a lower skilled player can have a chance at beating a higher tier/skilled player. Nintendo didn't want to make a game that was completely unbalanced, and so they implemented items in order to make it much more enjoyable for a BROADER AUDIENCE. You must remember it's a game and whether it ranges from a casual player to a serious player, it is completely irrelevant. Items are part of the game and they don't make it unfair, they do quite the opposite. Sometimes it's better to make things random because it makes the game more interesting and it also makes the players smarter and more skillful. If you see someone with a bomb-omb running at you, it's very easy to just put up your shield or to dodge it. A pokeball? OH NOES just get out of the area effect. All of these excuses that you guys are pulling out of your asses are completely irrelevant because they are all hypothetical situations. It's not like you are running and "Oh! A pokeball in my hand? I BETTER USE IT LAWL" It gives the game a new dimension because now you have to watch your opponent and look out for the environment with the items. And the ability to adapt to different environments is the key to a great gamer. Random? Unfair? To an extent, but a competition always has it's controlled and uncontrolled variables.

I can speak on this part because I'm an athlete. I do swimming and water polo and many things can go wrong. The starting block might be slippery so you slip when you start, your goggles are too tight or too loose so it causes mishaps during the race, the other players don't cut their nails for polo so you have to suck it up throughout the game. This is a true competitor, someone who can adapt to the situation and still come out on top. Stop your whining and get your asses outside and try a REAL competition. Video game tourneys are stupid and pointless, especially if there are limitations. Believe me, taking advantage of the physics of the game is much more "gay" then using what is purposely implemented (and you guys really need to watch your language because you never know who is reading what you're saying. I'm homosexual and the constant reference to sucking each other off and LAWL CUM is very immature and rude).

Get over yourselves. You play a GAME and bitch when something goes wrong. Get your asses outside and play a sport and then come talk to me.

O_o

Im not reading all of that, because you just suck.
First, you dont know what nintendo thinks. Second, I play hockey, and now im talking to you. What now?

[ckj846]

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You don't have respect to read what I write so I have zero respect for you. It's rather simple actually.

O_o

PS: Playing casually doesn't count. I mean at extremely high levels of competition. A lot can go wrong at a sectionals or state championship. But you suck it up and do the best you can. It's the same thing as your little LAWL MLG SSBM I RZ DA HAXXORZ CUZ I KNO DA RULZ. Good for you, it doesn't mean you can put yourself on a pedestal and think you know everything.

[Chromer]

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Ckj, I used to run track for four years before I graduated. Everything you said is exactly correct. So many things can go wrong it's not even funny. For example, for the Virginia Tech Invitational that I ran in 11th grade, we were running the 800 Speed Medley which requires absolute timing if you want to get a good time on your leg and push your team further up. I was the anchor I saw my man coming up behind me. I turned around and waited for the baton to hit me hand. I grabbed it and turned my ankle around the wrong way because of the position. By the random twitching of my leg to ankle, it slowed me down and we got 2nd place when we were in position for first.

As Ckj said, Nintendo put items in the game for a reason so that it balances out the over-powered high tier characters from always winning. You idorts think Nintendo didn't know that Marth's tip was over-powered? That Fox'sreflector had a 1 frame startup and can be abused? That Shiek's tilts and Airs have higher priority than most attacks in the game? That Peach's Dair can tack on up to 70% damage when done correctly?

Also about Peach, you are an idiot. Peach has the highest DI (Directional Influence) in the entire game making her the hardest character in the game to kill unless over 100% or just really good. Also, pulling out a stitch face once every 2-3 matches? That's a bull**** lie because one of my friends main Peach and he pulls out a stitch face every match. You obviously have no idea what you are talking homeslice.

Also, I stopped using items in the game when I found out that tournaments didn't use items that much except for the few tournaments that did have items on. You said that I have no idea what I'm saying anymore? I basically said that since I play with these people, I know I have skill enough to put $200 of my own money in a money match against you. Since you are probably too young to have that kind of money lying around and probably too scared to actually accept, I'll leave it at that. When you actually grow up and get the money and balls to accept, come talk to me.

Overall, your argument is just plain retarded. You come in here with you and your gay friends and try to impose upon us your idea that items make the game unbalanced? I only have one thing to say to you. Actually, you can say it to yourself.

you dont know what nintendo thinks.

Who are you to tell us what NIntendo thinks when you have no connection to Nintendo whatsoever? So you think just because MLG says you have to have items off, then it must be true? If that's the case then you guys really need to stop playing SSBM and maybe go play Halo 2 competitively. I'm sure they would love to hear some bull**** reason why you think the Pistol should be banned as well. >_>

[masterhickle]

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I can speak on this part because I'm an athlete. I do swimming and water polo and many things can go wrong.

Ya know, if you just turn items off, you won't have any problems.

Ckj, I used to run track for four years before I graduated. Everything you said is exactly correct. So many things can go wrong it's not even funny.

Congratulations, you two both agree on comparing two things that are barely similar.

You idorts think Nintendo

Ironic...

PS: Playing casually doesn't count. I mean at extremely high levels of competition.

You tell us that, basically, we suck for not using items, and yet you're telling us to go play at higher levels of play, where you can't use items. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REAL ANYMORE.

That's a bull**** lie because one of my friends main Peach and he pulls out a stitch face every match.

He must be on one lucky run to pull a stitch face every match, or do nothing but pull turnips.