SSBM Competitive info.

[MarisaKirisame]

Re: SSBM Competitive info.

So, do you guys open up the Gamecube and check it? Sometimes there might be a chip out of place or something, you know? It's possible!

So, do you guys check the controllers before starting? Someone can modify the controller to tilt slightly more and make you run faster. Not only is this possible, but I have one controller like this.

In fact, they do check to make sure everything is working equally before starting.

So, do you guys ban all of the stages where things happen that MIGHT make you screw up because you don't know how to pay attention to anything other than wavedashing to your opponent and close-range fighting? 'cuz I've heard you don't play levels like Corneria or Poke Floats.

Banned stages happen for the same reason as banned items happen. It isn't fair. How would you like it if you were playing MS on your Priest and someone just vac'd a damn shark onto you randomly? Whether it'd kill you or not is questionable, but it'd be an unnecessary annoyance. Can you still get hit by sharks? Yeah. But do you need to get hit by that shark? I mean does that person REALLY need to vac? Of course not.

So do you guys change the room temperature around the players to make sure there's no half-degree difference that would cause one player to sweat slightly more than the other and miss a button?

OH MY GOD HE SWEATED TOO MUCH AND LOST THE MATCH LET'S HAVE A RE-MATCH WHO THE CRAP WAS MONITORING THE THERMOSTAT.

It's not like everything is regulated and perfect and there is no luck. There is a LOT of luck in SSBM. And a lot of that luck is how well the opponent does. People can have crappy games, etc. I know you're being sarcastic, but items just push it too far.

[Squeek]

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And what is "The list?"

I assumed it was obvious. The average of every credible video game magazine, website, television show, etc.

A lot better than Major League Gaming or GameFAQs. Those are merely popularity contests, you see.

Q. What does it take to get a site included in the composite score of Game Rankings?
# A. This is the most commonly asked question. The things we look for when adding a new site are: At Least 300 archived reviews if they review multiple systems or 100 reviews if they concentrate on only one system or genre.
# The site does at least 15 reviews a month.
# The site is visually appealing and looks professional.
# The site reviews a variety of titles.
# The site has it's own domain name and is not hosted on GeoCities or another free server.
# The reviews need to be well written.
# The site conducts itself in a professional manner.

http://www.gamerankings.com/

And the Top list: http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank...pleratings.asp

PS - it falls off the top 200 if you use 10 or fewer sources, so make it 20 to make it show up.

Edit:

Banned stages happen for the same reason as banned items happen. It isn't fair. How would you like it if you were playing MS on your Priest and someone just vac'd a damn shark onto you randomly? Whether it'd kill you or not is questionable, but it'd be an unnecessary annoyance. Can you still get hit by sharks? Yeah. But do you need to get hit by that shark? I mean does that person REALLY need to vac? Of course not.

It's random luck. It's not my fault, but what can I do? Sure, it'd suck, but it's just a game. I'd get over it.

If a rogue arwing shoots me in Corneria right before I win, then that's how it is. If I were skilled enough, that one shot wouldn't kill me, now would it?

I've had the lag of a server kill me in other MMOs. That's the way it is. It's all a gamble. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

The whole point of my argument is that you're all taking a video game WAY too seriously. Video games are supposed to be fun. They're not supposed to be a chore.

If you want a stripped-down version of Super Smash Brothers, why don't you just play a fighting game? I don't recall seeing items there. I don't see wavedashing. And it's the same basic thing. You're turning a 4-player party game into a 2-player button-mashing fighter.

My last comment regarding items: Basically by saying you can't deal with random items, you're saying you lack the skill and preparedness to deal with the unforeseen. So you're telling me you suck at this game.

[ShoesBetch]

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Yea I've seen most of that stuff as well.

Some pretty good info there

[Hylian]

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LOL Ok Let me show you where you are wrong:

1. Tope lives in Richmond. He comes down to Virginia Beach to play with people like O-NO, KitsuneKing, etc. Last time he was here was for a $1000 tourney which he ended up winning with his crew. Don't believe me? Ask him yourself.

2. ChuDat does host his own get togethers which there is a video of said get-together on Youtube but due to your ignorance, 'll let you hunt it down for yourself.

3. Wow, it's called The_Doug can travel places too you know. He came to the same damn tournament Tope came to and faced him in a Sheik ditto match. The_Doug lost to Tope, said bye to everyone and left. Was he embarrassed? He shouldn't have been. Tope is a ****ing God.

4. Only reason I don't have footage of myself is because no one ever thinks to record matches when we play them. Go figure.


Anything else you want to try to dissect Mr. Know-It-All?


Now on to Hylian.

1. Nobody listens to Gamefaqs. Go to 4Chan and the mere mention of Gamefaqs will get you raped so hard, you wouldn't be able to sit down for a week. This is the site that called Metroid Prime a better FPS than Halo, Doom, and Half-Life 2. LOL WUT.

2. Hmm. MLG having a best game competition with SSBM as #1. I'm not even going to even point out that fallacy because if you missed it, you really need to learn how to discern better.

3. Best selling Gamecube game of all time? Yes. Sold over 6 million copies in the world? Yes. More copies of this game sold than any other console game? No and this is where you fail horribly. I like to bring out my friend, the GTA series. Need I say more?

4. If SSBM is so competitive and well know as you have put it, then it should have it's own TV show and everything right?

Not flaming, just pointing out the obvious.

Ok wow you played them once. Good job. Tope is not actually that amazing he just is to you because you suck. He is a very good player but not pro level. And I know the characters they play.

I also love how you completly ignored the fact that what you posted about peach is insanly wrong. Next time you call someone an idiot, make sure your information is right.

Also, $1000 MM yes or no? I am going to indiana on the 11th-15th and can probably go to whereever you are if its not too far.

Also ,you bring up GTA but I said ONE OF THE BEST SELLING not the best selling period. I was taking gta into consideration.

[ckj846]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ZErcqgcTk

You aren't even that good to be pulling **** out of your ass. You won on luck and can't air dodge for crap. You took way too much damage and only won because of a clumsy falco player. Some skill you have.

I'm not saying I'm amazing. And I don't have proof. But don't proclaim yourself a master of the game and copy paste some **** from Smashboards and think you proved your point.

And I have to agree with Squeek, you guys are taking the fun out of games. It's rather depressing actually, wasting so many hours on this game trying to exploit glitches and complaining when some random item adds excitement to the game. What a shame.

O_o

[Chromer]

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Ok wow you played them once. Good job. Tope is not actually that amazing he just is to you because you suck. He is a very good player but not pro level. And I know the characters they play.

LOL OK To me he's amazing because I suck? After seeing your pretty ****ty Fox and Samus display, I don't even need to face you. I'll let my little brother take care of a scrub like you. If I didn't have work this week I would gladly come and take your challenge. However it ain't happening anytime soon.

Also, nice job doing some more copypasta like the very beginning of this thread. All you proven is that you know how to move information from one site to another. By the way, what makes you think my character is Peach?

[slickskater29]

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I actually have more fun with competitive smash. It does not feel like a chore at all.

CKJ: Where did Hylian say he was a master? I'm not going to explain why they're not glitches again.

Chromer: It's easy to talk about how awesome you are, when you have no proof.

My last comment regarding items: Basically by saying you can't deal with random items, you're saying you lack the skill and preparedness to deal with the unforeseen. So you're telling me you suck at this game.

Gratz, you are so much better than me. Seriously, all of the trophies? That means you have mastered the game and you can say whatever you want. It is so easy to say "You guys all suck" when you refuse to go to a tournament.

[devonin]

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On another note, I do actually play with pros and know what I am talking about. I even have videos online of myself...

You need to reevaluate your word choice then my friend. "I play with pros, I EVEN have videos." Your use of "I even have" connects the two thoughts. IE, what you are -saying- is "I do play with pros, I have videos of myself playing pros" At which point you linked us to someone about which you then said:

And he is not a pro.

I never said I had videos of me playing pros.

You're right, you never explicitly stated "I have videos of me playing pros" but this entire thread you've done your best to sneakily imply that you do. You casually namedrop, your word choice is centered entirely around implication and insinuation that you're best buds with all the top players, despite your inability to link us to any videos of you and a provable pro taking part in any kind of major tournament final.

Though I do have many more videos and tournament videos if you do not believe me.

So...you have videos of yourself playing amateurs, but you do play pros, all the time honest? I guess we'll just believe you because anyone can upload anything to youtube, and you could record every single game you play and upload them to youtube, and maybe if you just assert that you play pros all the time enough, and upload your games against amateurs using the same filenaming pattern the pros do, everyone will believe you.

[Squeek]

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Gratz, you are so much better than me. Seriously, all of the trophies? That means you have mastered the game and you can say whatever you want. It is so easy to say "You guys all suck" when you refuse to go to a tournament.

'Gratz, you quoted my statement and replied to something else in my post.

Reply to the statement you quoted.

I'm not saying I'm great at the game. I'm saying that by earning the 290 trophies in the game, I've completed every challenge the game has thrown at me, and thus mastered the game. Whether or not that means I'm good against other people is another story, since my friends refuse to play this game with me even if I handicap them to max. They actually don't like the game and they'd rather play other games.

My statement still stands. If you can't cope with the randomness of items, then you truly lack a lot of skill for this game.

[devonin]

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'Gratz, you quoted my statement and replied to something else in my post.

[ckj846]

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CKJ: Where did Hylian say he was a master? I'm not going to explain why they're not glitches again.

Devonin.

And copy pasting from smashboards doesn't count as explaining. They are glitches, taking advantage of the game's physics (wavedashing?).

O_o

[Chromer]

Re: SSBM Competitive info.

Uh oh, you guys better not say anything else retarded, lest Devonin comes and breaks it down for you.

[slickskater29]

Re: SSBM Competitive info.

Devonin.

And copy pasting from smashboards doesn't count as explaining. They are glitches, taking advantage of the game's physics (wavedashing?).

O_o

[Quote=slickskater29]Yea, "glitches"...lets see, in smash bros 64 there was SHFFL, wavedash, waveland, wave shining, edge hoging. The basics of the SSBM metagame were in the previous game. So why didnt nintendo take these "glitches" out?[/quote/

What are you talking about? Ok, show me where on smash boards that i copy and pasted that from? Also, Devonin didn't say anything nor quote about Hylian being a master.

Devonin: I'm not going to quote that, but everyone can see that a small mistake in wording a phrase is what your entire argument against Hylian is about.

Squeek: I don't think it still stands, because as I said before, its easy for anyone who doesn't play competitively to say. And the second part of what I said had everything to do with that quote, nice try.

[masterhickle]

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Basically by saying you can't deal with random items, you're saying you lack the skill and preparedness to deal with the unforeseen. So you're telling me you suck at this game.

And here's my last statement about the use of items:

Basically, by saying you need the random items, you're saying you need something unforeseen to help you win. That tells me that you suck more than we do.

[Chromer]

Re: SSBM Competitive info.

And here's my last statement about the use of items:

Basically, by saying you need the random items, you're saying you need something unforeseen to help you win. That tells me that you suck more than we do.

However, by removing the feature that makes the game random and in that light, neutral and fair, you are telling me you are not skilled enough to maneuver around said items meaning that you suck worse than those who use items.