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  • evilbutterfly
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 5784

    #1996
    gower, put as much in int as possible. The reason being that the more int you have when you level, the more MP you get upon level up. Only add luck when you need to. For example, say you need 15 luck at a certain level to equip something. The level before that, you should have exactly 10 luck, so that way you can have enough to equip the thing, but still have as much int as possible for as long as possible. Adding 1 luck and 4 int every level works, but you'll have a little less MP.

    And the disadvantage of ice/lightning is: Not many ice-weak things until WAY later on, as in the volcano area before Zakum. The best thing to level on for a while (lorangs) go quite fast and do quite a bit of damage, so you'll use a lot of HP/MP pots if you grind on them. Ice/lightning are definitely the poorest of the mages. Fire mages do pretty well (I do, at least) and clerics tend to be rich as hell. Also, one disadvantage of I/L mages in my eyes is that they don't get meditation since they get both attacks. Poison is pretty useless until 3rd job, so they can get meditation without worries, and become useful to mage parties. Ice does get the power to freeze things, which is helpful since you can stop things without knocking them back. Of course, fire can just knock stuff back earlier. I obviously recommend fire, if you can hold out for 3rd job.

    Man I'm so confused right now. I want to have Savage Blow so frickin badly, however after seeing that kickass Hermit video, I want to become an Assassin. Any help guys? I dunno if I should put anything in Double Stab now that I use a dagger to level up.
    Bandits are WEAK. Very very very weak. Savage Blow looks cool but hits things six times. That's not a big deal now, but when you hit iron hogs and gollems that have huge defense, this will matter a lot, since their defense is pretty much multiplied by 6. Sins, however, are extremely powerful once they get critical throw (banditcom (a sin, despite his name, rofl) can outdamage me on non-fire things with EACH STAR when he critical hits with L7). If you are thinking of becoming a sin AT ALL you shouldn't add to double stab. With my bandit, I was only gonna take DS to 10 anyway and instead max disorder, since I figured the lowered defense would be of great help as a bandit.

    And as for cool videos, I guess you missed the 3rd job bandit killing adult yetis with meso explosion and that zooming stab skill. Meso explosion is sort of impractical, though, since you can't drop money if you're hurt. It has lots of uses, though, but it shouldn't really factor in at this point, since 3rd job isn't out and probably won't be out for some time. :\


    And finally, people still haven't told me what the snowboards DO. Like, what level are they and do they add jump like other snowboards, or what?
    So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

    In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

    So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
    And I write the blog for their website.

    Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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    • hydrojakep
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2003
      • 2293

      #1997
      They look cool. The end.

      Event items suck now



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      • banditcom
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2003
        • 6243

        #1998


        I'll outdamage you guys even more. Well, Pat (Ignite) and I will.. since he left his characters and joined with me. Not like we'll get way ahead in leveling or anything. It's just, he didn't want to play his characters anymore. So he traded over EVERYTHING.

        I was doing good money wise, but then this topped it off. He's only trained about 32% so far in 2 levels on my, err our, character. Yes, I trust him.

        I have been working my ass off selling stuff though. It took about 2 hours total to make up my sleepywood thread from start to finish (ss, hidden street, prices, write up). I've been selling a lot of things. I got a lot of drops today.. NPC value: 40k, 40k, 70k. Plus a gold ore and a bc ore. Pat found a 35k drop. AND my silver snowboard....

        I got another tobi to make it 3 when Pat traded his stuff. But, we had to sell two today to get the 10.6 million 6 attack brown moon glove. Oh man. Also, getting 3 sets of level 40 Jane quests items. One for my character, two for his two. We have nearly everything for all 3. We did the 25 quest and all parts of the 40 quest for his IvoryMask character. In the end, 60% spear attk for the 25 quest and yes, a 60% glove for the 40! Nice!! Two more to go.

        I still have a million mesos, a 10 def panlid, 2 old claws (soon to be 3 old claws), fairy wand +7, and a few other items to sell like a claw scroll plus those scrolls I listed. Probably sell our icicles too. Then get more tobis to add to the one we still have. Hopefully we get 2 more 60%s and no 10%s for the glove attacks.

        We're just keeping our level 40 dark shadow set. Our pilfer is +3 luk too. I'll probably sell the sonata I bought. I already have a white nap, 5 100% luk scrolls, and a +7 sapphire slain. So, I'm all set for 50, which is 25.26% away.

        Good times. Very good times. Max haste at 50, then 3 endure, 15 drain, 19 mastery, max drain, some more in booster, and some more in endure (enough to survive in nath hanging on a rope.. don't know how much that is).

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        • Squeek
          let it snow~
          • Jan 2004
          • 14444

          #1999
          Bandit, Endure actually works on or off ropes. Cheapest thing ever. You need to be able to cure 20 HP every 10 seconds to live in the cold. Also, I hope that Slain isn't 100%d. If it is, you're gonna suck. Odds are good that you won't get your level 60 claw for...ever. They sell for much more than you will ever have.

          EB, that skill with the single strike for Bandits is known as Assaulter. It's weaker than Savage Blow. The only thing useful with it is that single hit over the 6 other ones. Meso Explosion is only useful really if you're using Pickpocket beforehand, which knocks coins out of the enemy and scatters them on the ground. THEN blow that up. But the skill most will max first is Thieves, which is one of the fastest and strongest 6-hit attacks in the game.

          Also, snowboards WOULD have been useful if they put out the Blood one. That one is godly for a Polearm Spearman. Its highest base attack is 2 above the average on the level 60 polearm, but it's a Normal speed instead of a Slow. Scroll one of those up nicely and you'll have a really hawt weapon. As they are now, they're just slightly more powerful than normal Polearms.

          ~Squeek

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          • banditcom
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2003
            • 6243

            #2000
            And yea, bandits are a horrible class. They are a weak warrior with no slash blast...... The only thing they have going for them is high avoidability and accuracy..... Other than thieves 3rd job.

            gowhere: You have a perfect roll and you're NOT going all int no luk?? WTF. GO ALL INT DUDE.

            Squeek: It does? SWEET! Hmm.. I'll need to calculate how much I need then. I'll do that later. But yea, it's 100% scrolled. I know about the claw thing. Plus a bronze gig is about 20 million, which I have nearly that amount in worth anyways. But yea, I won't get one of those. My next buy, after the Tobis, is a 38 attack slain.

            My 100% scrolled one cost me 650k. It will do for now man. I'm not planning on keeping it for good. :P

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            • -Fallen-
              xqsite OG
              • May 2005
              • 2836

              #2001
              Originally posted by banditcom


              I'll outdamage you guys even more. Well, Pat (Ignite) and I will.. since he left his characters and joined with me. Not like we'll get way ahead in leveling or anything. It's just, he didn't want to play his characters anymore. So he traded over EVERYTHING.

              I was doing good money wise, but then this topped it off. He's only trained about 32% so far in 2 levels on my, err our, character. Yes, I trust him.

              I have been working my ass off selling stuff though. It took about 2 hours total to make up my sleepywood thread from start to finish (ss, hidden street, prices, write up). I've been selling a lot of things. I got a lot of drops today.. NPC value: 40k, 40k, 70k. Plus a gold ore and a bc ore. Pat found a 35k drop. AND my silver snowboard....

              I got another tobi to make it 3 when Pat traded his stuff. But, we had to sell two today to get the 10.6 million 6 attack brown moon glove. Oh man. Also, getting 3 sets of level 40 Jane quests items. One for my character, two for his two. We have nearly everything for all 3. We did the 25 quest and all parts of the 40 quest for his IvoryMask character. In the end, 60% spear attk for the 25 quest and yes, a 60% glove for the 40! Nice!! Two more to go.

              I still have a million mesos, a 10 def panlid, 2 old claws (soon to be 3 old claws), fairy wand +7, and a few other items to sell like a claw scroll plus those scrolls I listed. Probably sell our icicles too. Then get more tobis to add to the one we still have. Hopefully we get 2 more 60%s and no 10%s for the glove attacks.

              We're just keeping our level 40 dark shadow set. Our pilfer is +3 luk too. I'll probably sell the sonata I bought. I already have a white nap, 5 100% luk scrolls, and a +7 sapphire slain. So, I'm all set for 50, which is 25.26% away.

              Good times. Very good times. Max haste at 50, then 3 endure, 15 drain, 19 mastery, max drain, some more in booster, and some more in endure (enough to survive in nath hanging on a rope.. don't know how much that is).
              Most of the money you're both making is coming from all my old mage gear that Pat could of swore he gave back to me..
              One of the original members of the xqsite + FFR community.
              BlankZero - 15 year vet + RobbyZero - 15 year vet

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              • Chromer
                Hookers and Blow
                • Jul 2003
                • 4981

                #2002
                Well, it's settled then. Looks like I'm gonna be a Banditsin. ROFL Not a Banditcom. lol

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                • Omeganitros
                  auauauau
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 8897

                  #2003
                  Page page page page page page page

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                  • evilbutterfly
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 5784

                    #2004
                    Geez, Omega. For a mod, you sure do postwhore a lot. :P

                    And Chromer, I hope you're prepared to pay out the ass. The only reason I wanted to be a bandit in the now and hold out for 3rd job skills was the fact that sins are expensive as hell, whereas pure bandits are fairly cheap. And again, I still think disorder is extremely useful to bandits, since I'd rather hit with one disorder and then a SB (10 + 27 = 37 mp) rather than 2 SBs (27 + 27 = 54 mp). Then again, sins level a lot faster at first. Hell, if you were planning on banditsin, I'd suggest just doing sin. If you can afford to buy all their crap, they're quite worth the money.

                    EDIT: Can somebody tell me exactly how much a 60% scroll for cape INT is worth so I can sell this thing and get rich? I keep asking and people always say "A LOT!" but nobody knows the exact amount. What should I ask for it?
                    So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                    In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                    So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                    And I write the blog for their website.

                    Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                    • Tokzic
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2005
                      • 6878

                      #2005
                      A LOT!

                      Seriously though, I'll take it off your hands in exchange for 100k.


                      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                      • -Fallen-
                        xqsite OG
                        • May 2005
                        • 2836

                        #2006
                        I'm playing again, name is TotalWiz (soon to be level 38 ice/light)
                        One of the original members of the xqsite + FFR community.
                        BlankZero - 15 year vet + RobbyZero - 15 year vet

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                        • evilbutterfly
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 5784

                          #2007
                          Originally posted by Tokzic
                          A LOT!

                          ...

                          100k.
                          You obviously don't know what "a lot" is.

                          Seriously though, guys, give me a good estimate plz plz plz. BasilMarket's price check says 1.5m but I know that it's not super accurate, since it takes into account Scania and Broa prices when I want a Bera price, and we all know how the market is mega different. Think I could get 2m out of it? I really don't wanna part with it right before I get a cape unless I can get lots of cash from it.
                          So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                          In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                          So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                          And I write the blog for their website.

                          Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                          • Squeek
                            let it snow~
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 14444

                            #2008
                            60% Cape Int goes for 2.x million in Scania. I'd wager 2.5 for you. Or use it yourself...

                            ~Squeek

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                            • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                              Threat Emulation
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2004
                              • 5184

                              #2009
                              Well, I've divided out the following things:
                              ImEric12 - wooden tops
                              Tokzic - Magic DEF cape scroll
                              ckj846 - Arrows / Bronze Arrows (Scania)
                              Chromer - White Pots
                              -Theives /Wizards
                              EB - lvl 25+ Warrior
                              - Diamond Ores/Gold Ores
                              - Brown Jester (if +5 speed)
                              Tokzic - Ores (after everyone else =/ )
                              Vash - Screws
                              Gowereinside - lower lvl mage stuff (if I have any =/ )
                              If I missed your post or something is wrong, tell me so that I can fix it. I can make these trades anywhere right now... well almost anywhere. AIM me (best way) as for when to do it. *note*-please don't say can you do it in an hour, it is easyer(lol) to just say can you give me da shit now?
                              Also, I've still got some stuff to give away, well, alot which I really don't want so if there is still things that you want just post it, please don't aim me I want to make this fair for everyone.

                              ps - Tokzic, you will have to tell me which ores you want, diamond and gold are already taken.

                              Originally posted by Lightdarkness
                              I'm light f**king darkness

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                              • gowereinside
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 317

                                #2010
                                Originally posted by banditcom
                                gowhere: You have a perfect roll and you're NOT going all int no luk?? WTF. GO ALL INT DUDE.
                                Well I just got the game and the best advice is from you guys so I guess its all into INT now. So when I level up don't put any in HP or MP just +5 in INT every level up right?

                                If you FFR members could be so kind as to post your character name so I can add you to my friend list at the bottom/top of your next post, because I'm sure you have or can get gear that would be worthless to you but valuable to me. Thanks

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