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  • Nu0n
    FFR Veteran
    • Sep 2004
    • 1040

    #91
    Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

    I dont try to see anybody in the community besides my set friends. Everybody else is either learning or already an ego maniac.

    With that said, I love FFR and I wont be quiting anytime soon. The best way for this to go away is having the elite players unite and stop allowing fools to run wild.
    Last edited by Nu0n; 03-24-2012, 12:27 PM.
    Used to have my signature on here until it was deleted

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    • Xx{Midnight}xX
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2007
      • 8548

      #92
      Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

      I've avoided this thread for a good reason.

      But the section of this post is ****ing absurd and I can't just let him say it.

      Originally posted by qqwref
      AJ/kayla/krunky/ichlie: stay in TS. not even kidding
      If you think they're the biggest problem you haven't ****ing been here enough you uninformed miscreant idiot. You also just implied TS only has a shitty community, which it doesn't. TS arguably has a better community than we do.

      Shut the **** up and go back to whatever the **** you do. They're worth more to this community than you ever will be.

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      • foilman8806
        FFR Player
        • Jan 2008
        • 6

        #93
        Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

        Originally posted by aperson
        This is the kind of stuff that the OP is talking about and this is the kind of stuff that I'm going to be pretty actively stopping.
        Wow, ap. Just wow.

        You gave me a 3 week ban for a completely on-topic and entirely reasonable post back on page 2? Your ban reason being "keep the tgb shit in tgb"... really? What exactly in my post is "TGB"? I just expressed my opinion on what I feel is a pretty cut-and-dry topic. Yeah, there are some mean people here. SO WHAT. DEAL WITH IT. But I am by no means advocating or supporting their behavior. The only thing I said is that deleting TGB will do absolutely nothing to curtail the "trolling", in fact, as myself and someone else mentioned earlier, it would cause a lot more drama and havoc. The other thing I said was that if you have a consistent problem with the people in the community, it might not be the community, it might be you. What's so bad about that?

        If this is your idea of "actively stopping" this kind of "stuff", then your first move was a giant misstep. If you're set on being a tyrant, you better go back into this thread and ban everyone who doesn't necessarily agree with the OP. Here are a few names to start with:

        fido123
        ninjaKIWI
        who_cares973
        dragonmegaXX
        MrPopadopalis25
        Festive
        euphoriakisses
        Plan_Bsk81127


        In closing, **** you AP, you're a clueless retard.
        Last edited by foilman8806; 03-24-2012, 12:42 PM.

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        • Mau5
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2011
          • 790

          #94
          Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

          Originally posted by Emithith
          So uh, change nothing?
          How is that going for us right now I wonder..?
          If we were to achieve this 'Utopian' community standards would be very high and the first person to post the wrong thing would take **** 10x worse than now haha

          PS Rename request: Drama Thread 2012
          How to start an argument online:
          Step 1) Express an opinion
          Step 2) Wait....

          Originally posted by Arntonach
          It's great to see how the internet works, it's mask of anonymity bringing out the worst in people.

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          • yo man im awesome
            soleil ardent
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2007
            • 6514

            #95
            Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

            Originally posted by Mau5
            If we were to achieve this 'Utopian' community standards would be very high and the first person to post the wrong thing would take **** 10x worse than now haha

            PS Rename request: Drama Thread 2012
            Exactly what I'm trying to fix with this thread

            Originally posted by choof
            you double dad loving dipshit
            Originally posted by t-rogdor
            dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
            Originally posted by smartdude1212
            I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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            • Emithith
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2008
              • 1784

              #96
              Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

              it just seems that FFR is like flies on shit when it comes to drama. I'm starting to think that maybe the people who don't want to be flies should walk away from FFR.

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              • Mau5
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2011
                • 790

                #97
                Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                Originally posted by yo man im awesome
                Exactly what I'm trying to fix with this thread
                Ty for trying.<3 It's pretty much inevitable though...
                How to start an argument online:
                Step 1) Express an opinion
                Step 2) Wait....

                Originally posted by Arntonach
                It's great to see how the internet works, it's mask of anonymity bringing out the worst in people.

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                • One Winged Angel
                  Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 10837

                  #98
                  Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                  p.s. yo man this thread was doomed to fail because a bunch of people posting in this thread are the problem users themselves lol


                  Originally posted by ilikexd
                  i want to be cucked by cirno

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                  • foilman8806
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 6

                    #99
                    Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                    Originally posted by yo man im awesome
                    Exactly what I'm trying to fix with this thread
                    You'll never fix anything so long as you have a poor forum staff.

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                    • Plan_Bsk81127
                      snooches
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6420

                      #100
                      Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                      Originally posted by foilman8806
                      You'll never fix anything so long as you have a poor forum staff.
                      indeed

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                      • yo man im awesome
                        soleil ardent
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • May 2007
                        • 6514

                        #101
                        Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                        Originally posted by Mau5
                        Ty for trying.<3 It's pretty much inevitable though...
                        Originally posted by foilman8806
                        You'll never fix anything so long as you have a poor forum staff.
                        Thanks you two for trying so hard to help, now unless you guys actually have something to say that'll benefit us and not make things worse, please stop.

                        P.S. OWA That's what people said about my "New Way For vROFL?" Thread that eventually led to a bunch of others and the current vROFL thread.

                        Originally posted by choof
                        you double dad loving dipshit
                        Originally posted by t-rogdor
                        dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
                        Originally posted by smartdude1212
                        I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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                        • One Winged Angel
                          Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 10837

                          #102
                          Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                          Originally posted by yo man im awesome
                          P.S. OWA That's what people said about my "New Way For vROFL?" Thread that eventually led to a bunch of others and the current vROFL thread.
                          lol that's a bit different than what I was pointing out in my post

                          Making a thread about how to better the community and then having the problem users offer suggestions is a bit different than seeing if vrofl can be achieved in ways aside from top 8 in the official ~_~


                          Originally posted by ilikexd
                          i want to be cucked by cirno

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                          • Wineandbread
                            Custom User Title
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 2105

                            #103
                            Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                            Doubt removing TGB would do anything. If you can't post in one subforum, you find another one to post in if they really wanted to because the people are still there. This does nothing essentially to solve the problem that the OP is actually proposing. I honestly don't see why people want to browse TGB if they don't like it. If you don't like what you see, don't visit that subforum; it's really that simple. I rarely browse TGB when I go on FFR. I was under the impression that TGB was made to be a (fairly) unmoderated subforum for certain audiences to have fun around the restrictions of general rules. The way it developed doesn't seem contrary to this idea. Like okay, yeah, don't post porn and shit. That doesn't actually happen that often; the people who post in TGB aren't stupid, they just like having fun in their own way. Take a harder look at the subforum caption.

                            This is my retort to people removing TGB: "hey guys why don't we remove CT barely anyone posts in that subforum and it's just people who like to stroke their own egos by flaunting their intelligence" amirite


                            The OP has some big words and it'd be ideal if this change takes place instantaneously, but it's a fleeting dream. The userbase is the heart of the problem, not flawed moderation.
                            I'm just going to take the Dossar case as an example: it is not just Dossar "being a good person" here in FFR (ahem weeaboo pack). Yeah, he's trying to better the place and stuff, but the way he does it aggravates a bunch of people. I posted in the life of Dossar thread exclaiming how the interaction is a vicious cycle. To be perfectly honest, banning Dossar would relieve practically all of the drama surrounding him. Easiest solution that compromises the least people. On the other hand, it's not exactly fair to ban the 'victim', even if he is at fault for inciting the drama, and he is trying to help the community, which not all of the accusers are, and they potentially will just find someone else to rag on in the future. But it doesn't seem like Dossar is going to change his personality in a day, and as long as he keeps posting the way he does, people are going to have bad things to say about him (it's also a history/reputation thing for the record). Okay, sure, threaten people with month-bans or dish out bans/thread locks/deletion more frequently. That doesn't solve the heart of the problem because there will always be that negative sexual tension between Dossar and his "#1 fans". If the outlet for their Dossar rage isn't here on FFR, it's going to be elsewhere and the emotions will persist.

                            What do you do in this situation? To me it just seems unsolvable by moderation standards (in terms of a truly 'fair' solution). You give people free speech, and they will abuse it almost certainly. You give mods more power, and then suddenly a lot of opinions don't seem much like opinions anymore. It's funny how damaged FFR forums are for a community that's been around for so god damn long.

                            I don't think there is an ideal solution, so imo just let it be, like a few others have said. FFR has survived through worse. As long as there is interest in the game (and Stepmania) things will work themselves out somehow.

                            tl;dr OP has nice ideas, but implementation is ruined because community will not allow for it
                            Last edited by Wineandbread; 03-24-2012, 12:51 PM.
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                            • foilman8806
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 6

                              #104
                              Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                              Originally posted by yo man
                              Please don't post if you have nothing but wonderful and glowing things to say.

                              Please don't post if you think everyone here is overreacting to a handful of mean people.

                              Please don't post if you don't agree with me.
                              I'm not trying to start a fight, and I can actually stand behind increasing the positivity around here, but I think it is a.) very difficult to accomplish, b.) nigh impossible with the current forum staff. No one seems to realize this community is and always was the same. You should read a lot of the old threads where people get called out for BS scores. Talk about drama and trolling, that's where it all comes from. It's intrinsic in a forum that is based around a competitive game. IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY.
                              Last edited by foilman8806; 03-24-2012, 12:52 PM.

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                              • Emithith
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1784

                                #105
                                Re: We Can't Keep This Up.

                                http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=123191

                                Just gonna leave that here. If you guys want to discuss TGB, probably better to do it there so the mods/admins can keep track of it without sifting through what is now 6 pages of drama.

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