Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[jimerax]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

btw can someone calculate points (possibly accurately)?

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

Hey, at least I did the right thing and passed Metro rather than giving it the initial rating that I was thinking (which was highly biased on song taste).

That's what a judge should do if they feel that subjectivity issues will result in an unfair rating. It's good you took that into consideration.

Also @ Ziergds: If a resubmission gets lower than the original submission, something's not right here...

[qqwref]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

Passing on a song you couldn't grade properly is fine. What I don't like is when a song gets a bad score with comments like "broken disco music?" "also song choice sucks" "this is not music" "I don't think it's a great song to step" "Song is very short, and doesn't quite present a lot of variation for the length itself, which is problematic." etc etc. If you dislike the song so much that you need to mention it, maybe you dislike the chart because of the song?

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

JX: I'm tallying points right now. Give me a few.

[bmah]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

Broken disco music is a complement you know - broken describes the choppy aspects of the song, not the song is broken as in "trashy". I liked the song. The file was a different story. Don't misinterpret these things. And if you plan on taking points off on your own misinterpretations, you won't be considered as a judge in the future. Not playing around with this at all.

If you need clarifications from one of the judges, just ask. Do. Not. Assume. That's a fatal flaw right there.

[qqwref]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

I wasn't serious about taking points off for rock songs - it was an idle threat. But it really does annoy me that some judges blatantly do this and don't get called on it at all.

Anyway I looked back at the "broken disco music" one and you're right, I misinterpreted that one, but you did complain a lot about the song cut, and that falls under song choice too. Unless you really think the chart would be far superior if the missing parts were stepped, taking a lot of points off for a bad cut is really just saying you don't like the beginning or end of the music that was included in the file.

[bmah]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

And song choices are valid complaints - over half of all notes are subjective, and why should song choices not be included? If I thought that many parts of a song could've been better stepped (the current steps being far more generic), resulting in a [+.] instead of a [+], that's on the same subjective level as song choices. I'd say it's more reasonable to make this assumption on song cuts and more technical features of the song as opposed to what genre of music you love/hate.

Secondly, you cannot predict where each point was taken off in a song, unless the judge makes a very explicit marking system (e.g. Niala), which very few do. So once again, ask the judge how the points were evaluated for the song in question. Otherwise, you're just making assumptions.

[Niala]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

Breaking tension for:

HOMOSEXUAL LOVE SCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENE 8D

That is all.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

I think what he was trying to get at is that saying "song sucks" is not a valid reason to take off points from a file.

Notes can be based on how the song is stepped which is what you said, but that's different than saying "lol this song"

[bmah]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

I think what he was trying to get at is that rejecting a file for "song sucks" is not a valid reason to reject a file.

Definitely. A really bad song cut is very much reason then to reject a file, because it really detracts any finishing touches for a song. In other words, it's more specific than "song sucks".

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

Welp, guess I get to go through another whole resubmission process mess like I did with scavenger. Kind of sucks how 16/20 rating cant get like a light accept or something and be put in conditional especially when people get those ratings where one rating kinda throws off the other good ones given. =\

[rushyrulz]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

So would mine be considered borderline?

+ +. +. +? [16/20]

If so what happens?

[jimerax]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

borderline files will move to judge's vote stage.

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

Here you go:

Analyzed: 5/5+/5+/5 (20++)
A Beautiful Storm: 5/5/5/5 (20)
Finders Keepers: 5/5/5/5 (20)
Camel: 4/5/5/5 (19)
Flesvelka: 5/5/4/5 (19)
Electrical Parade: 3/5/5+/5 (18+)
Chrome Gadget Zone 8bit Mix: 4/4/5+/5 (18+)
12 Bar Bloops: 5/5/4/3 (17)
Comfortably Lost: 4/4/4/5 (17)
Experiment: 4/4/4/5 (17)
Feeling This REMIX: 4/4/5/4 (17)
Distorted God: 4/5/4/3 (16)
Frog's Theme: 4/4/5/3 (16)
Cybertron: 2/4/5/4 (15)
Baby Still Too Fat: 4/3/5/3 (15)
Corrupted Minds: 3/1/5/5 (14)
Euromorroc: 4/2/4/4 (14)
Giants in the Ocean: 4/1/4/4 (13)
Defection: 4/3/2/4 (13)
Chopsticks: 3/3/1/4 (11)
Expand Life: 2/3/4/2 (11)
Electrolosys: 3/1/3/3 (10)
Altair: 1/2/1/1 (5)

RESUBS:
Ready to Go: 5/4/5+/5 (19+)
Scavenger: 5/4/5/5 (19)
Try Harder: 4/5/3/4 (16)
Sonic 3 - Ice Cap (Remix): 4/1/2/4 (11)


====================
JULIAN: 5/5+/5/5 (20+)
Heavenly Spores: 5/5/5/5 (20)
Homosexual Love Scene: 5/4/5/5 (19)
Musicmaker RX: 4/5/5/5 (19)
JULIA: 5/5/5/4 (19)
Humoresque No. 7: 5/5/4/5 (19)
Mathsma Attack: 5/4/4/4 (17)
Gunkienen Tar Mercury: 4/4/5/4 (17)
Nothing's Gonna Stop Me: 4/4/4/5 (17)
Illumination: 4/2/5/5 (16)
NaiNai69: 4/3/5/4 (16)
Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya!: 4/3/4/5 (16)
He's a Pirate - F-777 Remix: 4/2/5/4 (15)
Lawn Wake II: 3/3/4/5 (15)
Luna Ascension: 4/3/4/4 (15)
Indignant Divinity: 3/5/2/2 (14)
Grateful Para-die-se: 2/2/5/4 (13)
Kirlian Changes: 3/4/1/5 (13)
Sun and Stars: 4/5/missing/4 (13)*
Halloweenies: 2/2/4/3 (11)
Melons: 3/[2]/4/1 (10)
Jingle Bells Hardstyle: 2/1/4/2 (9)
Grasp Reality: 2/2/2/3 (9)

RESUBS:
No Salt: 4/5/5/5 (19)
In the Wind: 4/5/5/4 (18)
Metro: 4/[4]/5/5 (18)
Glorious Morning: 3/3/3/3 (12)
=============

[iironiic] Passage D: 5>/3>/4/5> (17 >>>)
[w_c] Passage D: 3</4</4</5< (15 <<<<)

Senerade of Storms: 5/5/5+/5 (20+)
Sleet: 5/5/5/5 (20)
The Gateway: 5/4/5/5 (19)
I Remember When: 4/4/5/5+ (18+)
Pokemon GSC Elite Four: 5/5/3/5 (18)
Dance and Zeal: 4/4/5/5 (18)
System Split: 4/5/4/4 (17)
The Final Hour: 4/4/5/4 (17)
System Failure: 5/4/2/5 (16)
Fatum Anima: 3/4/4/5 (16)
Aim Burst: 4/5/4/2 (15)
Unf: 3/4/5/3 (15)
Youshou 02: 4/4/4/3 (15)
An Unwanted Magician and a Cheery Rebel: 3/4/4/4 (15)
Subconsciousness: 4/3/4/3 (14)
Thunderdome Got CRUNK: 3/4/4/3 (14)
Peculiar Pattern of Circles: 2/2/4/3 (11)
The Bird's Concrete Nosedive: 2/1/2/5+ (10+)
Powerpuff Gabberz: 3/1/3/3 (10)
Tyomutyomepu: 2/1/4/2 (9)
Pizza Butt: 2/2/2/1 (7)
Rain: 1/1/1/1 (4)

RESUBS:
Fast Asleep: 4/2/5/4/ (15)
Colibri: 4/5/3/3 (15)
A Battle for the Sky: 4/4/3/3 (14)
Cest What: 1/2/4/3 (10)

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

(Double posting in case the notes are getting copied by code)

Welp, guess I get to go through another whole resubmission process mess like I did with scavenger. Kind of sucks how 16/20 rating cant get like a light accept or something and be put in conditional especially when people get those ratings where one rating kinda throws off the other good ones given. =\

Being that you got two + ratings, you might actually still be alright. Either way, you'll get tossed into the borderline, and being that you had two strong accepts, other judges might feel the same.